Babolat RPM Blast Strings

TearSNFX

Rookie
what would you guys recommed stringing on the crosses(no natural gut) if i strung RPM Blast 16g on the mains in a Ytk Radical MP

The crosses I have used are Babolat Nvy 16g.

Update on the previous setup.

Well the setup popped after 4 days of use. The crosses ( nvy ) are the ones that actually popped. The mains ( RPM Blast ) had about half left so it would more then likely have popped with 1 more use if the crosses didn't.

I usually pop strings anywhere from 2~3 days, so 1 extra day is actually anywhere from 33% to 40% durability increase. So I think there is no doubt the strings are quite durable.

The next series of tests will take some time. Since it's 3 racquets I'll be stringing.
 

TearSNFX

Rookie
Thanks for the review. Looking forward to more thoughts. Anyone know how much its going to cost?

I have a feeling one of 2 things will happen.

Hurricane Tour Pro will drop in price and the RPM Blast will take the place of the Tour . 200 some odd dollars.

or

They will increase the price of the RPM BLast to about 260 like the reel of luxilon rough 16L's.
 

raging

Professional
I have a feeling one of 2 things will happen.

Hurricane Tour Pro will drop in price and the RPM Blast will take the place of the Tour . 200 some odd dollars.

or

They will increase the price of the RPM BLast to about 260 like the reel of luxilon rough 16L's.

Thanks for reviews, looks like Babolat have a replacement for PHT, it will just depend on price structure strategy as to how they phase it out.
RPM is supposed to give a better reel price than lux rough so we will have to see what they land it for in US.
Interest is very high in the string in europe...lots of bab players testing.
Surprised no-one has posted here.
 

Tennis_Crazed

Semi-Pro
I have a feeling one of 2 things will happen.

Hurricane Tour Pro will drop in price and the RPM Blast will take the place of the Tour . 200 some odd dollars.

or

They will increase the price of the RPM BLast to about 260 like the reel of luxilon rough 16L's.

Will be interesting to see what they do. If its really that great would be interesting to see if people pay lux prices for it
 

downs_chris

Professional
i also have a set, which i haven't play tested yet, because i went back to my Babolat Pure Storm Ltd GT and i'm really reluctant to put that fat, 16 guage (1.30mm) string in there...i normally do a full bed of Cyber Flash 1.20mm in the low to mid 50s...any suggestions of what i should do?

full bed of RPM Blast around 50 lbs.?
hybrid it -- RPM Blast in the mains, 50 lbs. with a soft cross?
put it in some new PT57As I have coming this week (the string pattern isn't quite as tight)?
 

Arvid

Semi-Pro
i also have a set, which i haven't play tested yet, because i went back to my Babolat Pure Storm Ltd GT and i'm really reluctant to put that fat, 16 guage (1.30mm) string in there...i normally do a full bed of Cyber Flash 1.20mm in the low to mid 50s...any suggestions of what i should do?

full bed of RPM Blast around 50 lbs.?
hybrid it -- RPM Blast in the mains, 50 lbs. with a soft cross?
put it in some new PT57As I have coming this week (the string pattern isn't quite as tight)?

Why are you reluctant to put in youre pure storm Ldt GT? I think it would be interesting to see how the spin production would be in such a racket with this string? Pt 57A should be somewhat similar.....
 

downs_chris

Professional
Why are you reluctant to put in youre pure storm Ldt GT? I think it would be interesting to see how the spin production would be in such a racket with this string? Pt 57A should be somewhat similar.....

i just don't really like 16 gauges in that tighter string pattern of the PSLGT -- the PT57A is a little more spread out, in my opinion...either way -- haha, i should put it in one of my racquets...since i have the PSLGT and it's raining today -- i might as well put it in there...
 

Arvid

Semi-Pro
i just don't really like 16 gauges in that tighter string pattern of the PSLGT -- the PT57A is a little more spread out, in my opinion...either way -- haha, i should put it in one of my racquets...since i have the PSLGT and it's raining today -- i might as well put it in there...
Cool will be interesting to hear how it comes out:)
 

TearSNFX

Rookie
i also have a set, which i haven't play tested yet, because i went back to my Babolat Pure Storm Ltd GT and i'm really reluctant to put that fat, 16 guage (1.30mm) string in there...i normally do a full bed of Cyber Flash 1.20mm in the low to mid 50s...any suggestions of what i should do?

full bed of RPM Blast around 50 lbs.?
hybrid it -- RPM Blast in the mains, 50 lbs. with a soft cross?
put it in some new PT57As I have coming this week (the string pattern isn't quite as tight)?

If you usually do a full bed of poly then do a full bed of blast.

Compare it to what you're used to, to get the best analysis.
 

Fedace

Banned
yeah -- i can go both ways...lately i've been on a full bed of poly craze...but i enjoy both...

I have watched Nadal's match and i can definitely hear the string move. It seems like the string is snapping back in place everytime nadal hits the ball. I am afraid that this string movement maybe lost if i do a hybrid with multi like X-1 biphase like i always do....:confused:
 

downs_chris

Professional
I have watched Nadal's match and i can definitely hear the string move. It seems like the string is snapping back in place everytime nadal hits the ball. I am afraid that this string movement maybe lost if i do a hybrid with multi like X-1 biphase like i always do....:confused:

i don't think i've ever listened for "string movement" -- but ok! he seemed to be hitting the ball pretty well though...
 

Fedace

Banned
i don't think i've ever listened for "string movement" -- but ok! he seemed to be hitting the ball pretty well though...

Eric Babolat was saying that this string movement of snapping back energy enables you to put more spin on the ball......not sure if it is BS or what but i can definitely hear it when Nadal plays. It is Odd and kind of Annoying sound, if you are not used to it.....lol
 

Blade0324

Hall of Fame
Watching Roddicks match last night against Lu I noticed that he is back to PHT. He must have not liked the Blast as well as others to not stay with it.
 

Fedace

Banned
...
are those jokes?

53 tension is too much power, too much to be able to control...?

would you mind to elaborate on that because there are many TT users
who string at extremely low tensions??

Lower tension gives you more trampoline effect which gives you more power but less pinpoint control .. High tension will make the stringbed more like a board stiff and more control. that is why Pete Sampras used to string his rackets at such high tensions..
 
Lower tension gives you more trampoline effect which gives you more power but less pinpoint control .. High tension will make the stringbed more like a board stiff and more control. that is why Pete Sampras used to string his rackets at such high tensions..

yes
like i had no knowledge on strings and string tensions

what i was saying is that
how is 53 uncontrollable
unless that happenes to u
i find that hard to believe
 

tennis005

Hall of Fame
Eric Babolat was saying that this string movement of snapping back energy enables you to put more spin on the ball......not sure if it is BS or what but i can definitely hear it when Nadal plays. It is Odd and kind of Annoying sound, if you are not used to it.....lol

It sounds like Prince Recoil string which is also supposed to provide more spin because the strings snap back into place. I tried Recoil today and it may be true. I got some pretty good spin off my shots, more so then with multis or other synthetics.
 

Fedace

Banned
It sounds like Prince Recoil string which is also supposed to provide more spin because the strings snap back into place. I tried Recoil today and it may be true. I got some pretty good spin off my shots, more so then with multis or other synthetics.

We will see how this RPM blast could improve even the game of the amateur players. It seems to be working well for Sam querry.:)
 

Kam2010

Rookie
Im looking forward to buying a set of RPM Blast strings when available.

I've got a APDC with PHT in mains and Duralast in crosses that have been strung at 53 lbs, playing with this you definetly get more power due to it being strung at a lower tension and when playing the ball stays on the racket for longer when comparing to a higher tension strung racket.
I strung Pro Red Code on a Wilson Pro Staff just to try it out and strung at 58 I think it was straight away noticed once the ball hits the racket it shoots off giving you less time with the ball staying on the racket.
 

Fedace

Banned
Im looking forward to buying a set of RPM Blast strings when available.

I've got a APDC with PHT in mains and Duralast in crosses that have been strung at 53 lbs, playing with this you definetly get more power due to it being strung at a lower tension and when playing the ball stays on the racket for longer when comparing to a higher tension strung racket.
I strung Pro Red Code on a Wilson Pro Staff just to try it out and strung at 58 I think it was straight away noticed once the ball hits the racket it shoots off giving you less time with the ball staying on the racket.

so you are saying that lower tension gives you more control due to the fact that it stays on the strings longer ??
 

arche3

Banned
so you are saying that lower tension gives you more control due to the fact that it stays on the strings longer ??

in my experience. lux alu has more control at a lower tension for 4 or so hours. around 54, 55 for me. at tensions around 57, 58 it has less control and spin. this is all fresh strung mind you. after 5 hours the higher tension has more control. there is definitley a more pronounced ball pocketing effect lower and i can generate more pace and precision with a apdc freshly strung with alu around 55lbs.
what i usually do is string at 57 or 58 and have it play bad (for me) for a couple matches then it settles into a lower tension until it goes dead then i restring. kinda a compromise. otherwise a fresh strung alu at 55 is too powerfull after 5 hours or so.
 

Fedace

Banned
^^^No wonder when i strung alu power rough at 62-68 lbs, i had no control,,,just balls sailing everywhere.
 

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
they said they can't say what it is...but we'll see when it comes in the mail :)


The string sent by TW is most likely the Blast. A stringer at one of the major events back in January of this year noted so many players using a new black babolat string. He stated the only marking on the packaging was b-432C, which is the same as the packaging many of us received for the playtest. Some of the players he mentioned included Rafa, Roddick, Querey, etc.
 

Fedace

Banned
The string sent by TW is most likely the Blast. A stringer at one of the major events back in January of this year noted so many players using a new black babolat string. He stated the only marking on the packaging was b-432C, which is the same as the packaging many of us received for the playtest. Some of the players he mentioned included Rafa, Roddick, Querey, etc.

and you said in the past that it was just a Pro hurr tour in black color. Are we thinking differently now,,,perhaps....:)
 

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
and you said in the past that it was just a Pro hurr tour in black color. Are we thinking differently now,,,perhaps....:)


I was referencing what a Babolat Rep stated,,,,,,,, that the new black string was babolat PHT painted black with a new name attached to it.
 

ClubHoUno

Banned
in my experience. lux alu has more control at a lower tension for 4 or so hours. around 54, 55 for me. at tensions around 57, 58 it has less control and spin. this is all fresh strung mind you. after 5 hours the higher tension has more control. there is definitley a more pronounced ball pocketing effect lower and i can generate more pace and precision with a apdc freshly strung with alu around 55lbs.
what i usually do is string at 57 or 58 and have it play bad (for me) for a couple matches then it settles into a lower tension until it goes dead then i restring. kinda a compromise. otherwise a fresh strung alu at 55 is too powerfull after 5 hours or so.

If you ask a lot of experienced stringers - also guys like JayCee, TennezSport and other string guru's - they will all tell you, that you get stiff poly strings like Alu Power to lose its elasticity and good playing characteristics sooner, when you string it at too high a tension.

Pro players don't care, as they only use the same string job for max 1 hour in match play and then maybe for 30 minutes practice the next day.

But for ordinary folks, you prolong the life of Alu Power by going lower in tension. I string my Luxilon Alu Power in my crosses at only 50 lbs (98 SQ" frame) and 48 lbs (95 and 93 SQ" frame), and I feel like I get more life out of it, compared to when I strung it at 58 or 56 lbs. I still have nice control with it.

Stringing poly strings at too high tension ruins the fibres inside the string, which is why you see the recommenation for 10% lower tension on almost all poly strings these days.

When my strings lose too much tension after 4-6 hours, I install a bunch of string savers to stiffen the stringbed and raise the tension around the sweetspot a bit (I lose bit of feel from the string savers, but it's not so much as some says), and I get 2-4 hours extra life out of it....unless I broke the hybrid strings prior to that of course :p
 

TearSNFX

Rookie
You can still control the shots at such low tension ??

I've discovered over time that poly's characteristics become neutral around 52~57 anything below becomes a trampoline and anything higher becomes a wooden paddle. I strung at 56 to bring out a more neutral characteristics of the strings from personal experience. My crosses were strung at 60 to stiffen the string bed a bit. Hope this helps.



UPDATE :

Strung the racquets with VS Team 17 mains and RPM Blast / PHT / ROUGH 16L crosses last night. Review will come shortly about its performance as a cross string.

Same tension 60 main / 56 crosses ( poly's )

I'll let you guys know tonight since I will hit with it at around 2 pm today.

My expectations aren't high in terms of durability, but I have high hopes for the playability.
 

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
Stringing poly strings at too high tension ruins the fibres inside the string, which is why you see the recommenation for 10% lower tension on almost all poly strings these days.


The reason for the "10% recommendation" was because when poly first became a big deal, the string was so stiff, the manufacturers suggested this decrease in tension.
 

TearSNFX

Rookie
I was referencing what a Babolat Rep stated,,,,,,,, that the new black string was babolat PHT painted black with a new name attached to it.

You're not too far from the original plans of babolat.

They initially PLANNED to just change the string colors but in the end decided to make a new string altogether. Different core and different outer layer.

They are developing a new pro hurricane that is supposed to be kick ass for many non pro players. I have high hopes for that string as well.
 

ClubHoUno

Banned
I've discovered over time that poly's characteristics become neutral around 52~57 anything below becomes a trampoline and anything higher becomes a wooden paddle. I strung at 56 to bring out a more neutral characteristics of the strings from personal experience. My crosses were strung at 60 to stiffen the string bed a bit. Hope this helps.



UPDATE :

Strung the racquets with VS Team 17 mains and RPM Blast / PHT / ROUGH 16L crosses last night. Review will come shortly about its performance as a cross string.

Same tension 60 main / 56 crosses ( poly's )

I'll let you guys know tonight since I will hit with it at around 2 pm today.

My expectations aren't high in terms of durability, but I have high hopes for the playability.

I think you are right, but you are far too generalizing. Oversized and midplus frames need higher tension, and smallere sized mid frames need lower tension. I never string Luxilon Alu Power over 50 lbs anymore, and to my surprise, I still get lots of control, better feel and my poly does not die as fast as it used to do, when I strung it in high 50's to low 60's and also used it in the mains.....
 

TearSNFX

Rookie
The reason for the "10% recommendation" was because when poly first became a big deal, the string was so stiff, the manufacturers suggested this decrease in tension.

luxilon is one of the stiffest poly's out there, so it might be wise to apply the 10% recommendation.
 

TearSNFX

Rookie
I think you are right, but you are far too generalizing. Oversized and midplus frames need higher tension, and smallere sized mid frames need lower tension. I never string Luxilon Alu Power over 50 lbs anymore, and to my surprise, I still get lots of control, better feel and my poly does not die as fast as it used to do, when I strung it in high 50's to low 60's and also used it in the mains.....

Please remember the key point of me mentioning " personal experience " . I've only used 3 racquets in the past.

Pro Staff 6.0 85

K90

KPS 88
 

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
luxilon is one of the stiffest poly's out there, so it might be wise to apply the 10% recommendation.


Perhaps, but contrary to what ClubHoUno stated, I was referencing why the manufacturers advised for a 10% reduction when stringing, and it ain't because the fibers stretch.

Put it this way, every package of Lux states (or stated) they recommend a 10% reduction in tension than your normal set up. How would they know everone is stringing at over 60? lbs as CHU is implying.
 

ClubHoUno

Banned
Perhaps, but contrary to what ClubHoUno stated, I was referencing why the manufacturers advised for a 10% reduction when stringing, and it ain't because the fibers stretch.

Put it this way, every package of Lux states (or stated) they recommend a 10% reduction in tension than your normal set up. How would they know everone is stringing at over 60? lbs as CHU is implying.

I think what they mean is to go 10% lower than the tension you normally use for gut, synth. gut and multi strings.
 

Fedace

Banned
You're not too far from the original plans of babolat.

They initially PLANNED to just change the string colors but in the end decided to make a new string altogether. Different core and different outer layer.

They are developing a new pro hurricane that is supposed to be kick ass for many non pro players. I have high hopes for that string as well.

Are you Kidding me ?? New pro hurr that is even better ??????? Is this going to be new material all over ?? different than RPM blast and old Pro hurr tour ?:confused:
 

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
I think what they mean is to go 10% lower than the tension you normally use for gut, synth. gut and multi strings.

You just listed about every string possible, which leaves us with poly. Being that Lux is a poly (stiff string), the manufacters advised to string it 10% lower than other strings. They did not advise this because the fibers stretch/break at high tensions as you suggested, rather because the string is stiff compared to other strings.

For example, a customer who strings Prince Synthetic Duraflex strung at 60 lbs will need for the poly to be strung at approx 54/55 lbs for the string-bed stiffness to feel the same. If he strung the poly at 60 lbs, it would feel like Duraflex strung at 66/67 lbs, etc.
 

Fedace

Banned
You just listed about every string possible, which leaves us with poly. Being that Lux is a poly (stiff string), the manufacters advised to string it 10% lower than other strings. They did not advise this because the fibers stretch/break at high tensions as you suggested, rather because the string is stiff compared to other strings.

For example, a customer who strings Prince Synthetic Duraflex strung at 60 lbs will need for the poly to be strung at approx 54/55 lbs for the string-bed stiffness to feel the same. If he strung the poly at 60 lbs, it would feel like Duraflex strung at 66/67 lbs, etc.

Drak, what is the best tension for Polys like Luxilon alu power rough or Proline 2 ? i use fairly powerful frames like Babolat Pure drive GT + and yonex RQIS tour-2. and i string the poly at 64 lbs and i feel like i can control the power but the poly string goes dead quicker and NO feel. I tried high 50's like 58-60 and balls just come off the string too hot and jump off the stringbed especially when poly is new and it is difficult to control. :???:
 

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
Drak, what is the best tension for Polys

Only you could answer that question.

Seems like you don't like it when the ball "trampolines" a bit off the string bed, and feel more confident with a stiffer stringbed. One thing you could do, is go down in weight, and up in string gauge. For example, if you use 17 gauge, use a 16 gauge, and drop a few lbs. Hope this helps.
 

Fedace

Banned
Only you could answer that question.

Seems like you don't like it when the ball "trampolines" a bit off the string bed, and feel more confident with a stiffer stringbed. One thing you could do, is go down in weight, and up in string gauge. For example, if you use 17 gauge, use a 16 gauge, and drop a few lbs. Hope this helps.

WOW,,,are you a Genius or what ??? I think you have a point. when i tried the 18g multi hybrid with Proline 2,,,it didn't work at all, just too much trampoline effect. but it was little better when i went to 17G X-1 biphase. but still little bit of issues with trampoline effect.
Reason i didn't go to 16 g yet is that i was told thicker strings have NO feel and they are heavier in weight changing the balance of the racket. but i think what you say makes perfect sense. I am going to try the 16G X-1 with 17 G Proline 2 or RPM blast and see what happens.

You are a String Genius,,,Drak. P-1 has nothing on you, guy. You should be giving them a few lessons...:)
 

Fedace

Banned
Just one more question for Drak. Do you think lowering the gauge, ie16 G on X-1 would be enough to reduce the trampoline effect or should i go thicker on the poly too ?? I currently use 18 G Proline 2 or 17 G Pro hurr tour. Thank you sincerely, Drak.
 
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