Beastin' 24/7 initial thoughts on Beast Pro 100 LB

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I have had an on and off love affair with the PDR+ going all the way back to the first model and have several of each one they have made since they first came out in 2007 or thereabouts when it dropped. The current PDT+ I like fairly well for hitting groundstrokes, but it may be the light SW, lack of mass in the hoop, or super open string pattern, but I just cannot hit decent flat or kick serves with it to save my life compared to any of the other models which all drop bombs. I also found volleying with it to be suspect. I had pretty much relegated myself to hitting with the old PDRs or my 2015 blade 16x19, but the blade volleys like cancer even though I love it everywhere else.

When I saw there was going to be a 320 gram beast in 27.5 length that is similar to the PDR+, I couldn't pass that up, so I bought a few when they got my grip size in last week. I had one of them strung up with 16G red code wax at 57 pounds, because they were out of the regular red code. I had a few chances to hit with them and I must say I was surprised by a few things:

Based on the TW reviews I thought this racquet was going to be crazy heavy, but it swings pretty much like my black PDR+, I think the Roddick is a little more head heavy, but the static weight is a little lighter on the PDR. (I am not going to make any comparisons to the PDTs, since I have pretty much relegated those to the time out bin in my basement) The beast is a little heavier, but it definitely feels more head light than the older PDR+s. IMO this head light balance and added static weight oddly benefits my game, since I have a one handed back hand. I had a really easy time bringing this stick around on the backhand side. You just put it in motion and it comes around with good pace and plow through. I found forehands to be pretty awesome too, it hits line drives with ease and gives you great spin/grab on the ball depending on what you are trying to do with it. I think it has really great control and targeting was better than the PDR. My only knock would be if you are hitting with spin and are hitting 1/2 swing speed etc you may have the tendency to loop a few balls out. I think it is easier to mishit this sort of shot more so than PDRs. The power is very linear and you get out of it what you put into it. I find the spin to be good, but you need to commit to it when you load the ball up. Flat line drives are actually pretty easy to hit and I am having good luck bringing them into the court and not hitting the fence like I do every time I try the RF97.

When I first started hitting overheads I was catching quite a few off the throat until I started catching my rhythm with it, but volleys are great and I found it very maneuverable around the net. Like any extended length racquet body shots and body serves into your pockets are trouble, but honestly even with a standard length racquet you are are doing good jut to get the strings on those.

On to serves....holy smokes does this thing deliver the goods. I wanted a racquet that lets me drop bombs on serves and this baby will let you do it. If you get the racquet moving and have good racquet head speed you reap the rewards. Incredibly impressive serving racquet and the potential is there to hit harder serves than the Roddick. I just need more time with it, but so far I have been super impressed with it.

I need a few more weeks with it, but overall if you like the Babolat plus length racquets but haven't been super thrilled with the string pattern on the new tour or aero then you need to try the beast pro LB. It is an excellent stick and don't let the swing weight or stories of this thing being heavy deter you. The ones I got swing to me like a 330 or so swing weight racquet because the balance point is more head light. I also found it way more forgiving for a one handed back hand than what you would think. Give it a demo, it is worth a shot. I was intrigued by the specs and prince delivered what I was looking for in a new racquet.
 
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I haven’t hit with the SV, but I played some with the dr 98+ and o found that raquet to serve well but to be somewhat unstable. The beast is pretty dang stable. When I put it up to my PDRs side to side it’s a wee bit shorter. All three of the ones I purchased are a little bit shorter than 27.5. Overheads and serves just come off with crushing speed. I don’t think it’s as solid as the rf97 k90 or kps88 on volleys but you can hit some decent flick of the wrist shots at the net. I liked the dr98+ quite a bit but I feel like it needed the mass and weight distribution of the beast for stability. Overall this is a very impressive racquet.
 

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Dr98+ did have some flexibility issues..
The SV98+ swings very fast..it hides it's lenght and swing weight well...
 

Burn

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I have had an on and off love affair with the PDR+ going all the way back to the first model and have several of each one they have made since they first came out in 2007 or thereabouts when it dropped. The current PDT+ I like fairly well for hitting groundstrokes, but it may be the light SW, lack of mass in the hoop, or super open string pattern, but I just cannot hit decent flat or kick serves with it to save my life compared to any of the other models which all drop bombs. I also found volleying with it to be suspect. I had pretty much relegated myself to hitting with the old PDRs or my 2015 blade 16x19, but the blade volleys like cancer even though I love it everywhere else.

When I saw there was going to be a 320 gram beast in 27.5 length that is similar to the PDR+, I couldn't pass that up, so I bought a few when they got my grip size in last week. I had one of them strung up with 16G red code wax at 57 pounds, because they were out of the regular red code. I had a few chances to hit with them and I must say I was surprised by a few things:

Based on the TW reviews I thought this racquet was going to be crazy heavy, but it swings pretty much like my black PDR+, I think the Roddick is a little more head heavy, but the static weight is a little lighter on the PDR. (I am not going to make any comparisons to the PDTs, since I have pretty much relegated those to the time out bin in my basement) The beast is a little heavier, but it definitely feels more head light than the older PDR+s. IMO this head light balance and added static weight oddly benefits my game, since I have a one handed back hand. I had a really easy time bringing this stick around on the backhand side. You just put it in motion and it comes around with good pace and plow through. I found forehands to be pretty awesome too, it hits line drives with ease and gives you great spin/grab on the ball depending on what you are trying to do with it. I think it has really great control and targeting was better than the PDR. My only knock would be if you are hitting with spin and are hitting 1/2 swing speed etc you may have the tendency to loop a few balls out. I think it is easier to mishit this sort of shot more so than PDRs. The power is very linear and you get out of it what you put into it. I find the spin to be good, but you need to commit to it when you load the ball up. Flat line drives are actually pretty easy to hit and I am having good luck bringing them into the court and not hitting the fence like I do every time I try the RF97.

When I first started hitting overheads I was catching quite a few off the throat until I started catching my rhythm with it, but volleys are great and I found it very maneuverable around the net. Like any extended length racquet body shots and body serves into your pockets are trouble, but honestly even with a standard length racquet you are are doing good jut to get the strings on those.

On to serves....holy smokes does this thing deliver the goods. I wanted a racquet that lets me drop bombs on serves and this baby will let you do it. If you get the racquet moving and have good racquet head speed you reap the rewards. Incredibly impressive serving racquet and the potential is there to hit harder serves than the Roddick. I just need more time with it, but so far I have been super impressed with it.

I need a few more weeks with it, but overall if you like the Babolat plus length racquets but haven't been super thrilled with the string pattern on the new tour or aero then you need to try the beast pro LB. It is an excellent stick and don't let the swing weight or stories of this thing being heavy deter you. The ones I got swing to me like a 330 or so swing weight racquet because the balance point is more head light. I also found it way more forgiving for a one handed back hand than what you would think. Give it a demo, it is worth a shot. I was intrigued by the specs and prince delivered what I was looking for in a new racquet.

I've come across your review in my search about this very racket as a contender to replace my current Burn CV 95. My current racket of choice packs a punch and is very stable (I weighted it up to 350g static and to an even balance). The thing is I have to string it very low to increase the very small sweet spot and the comfort.
Do you ever tried this Burn? If yes how it compares to the Bisner? Would be an easy transition?
And at last, is this Bisner smooth when hitting? Does it packs decent feel?

Thanks a lot
 
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I've come across your review in my search about this very racket as a contender to replace my current Burn CV 95. My current racket of choice packs a punch and is very stable (I weighted it up to 350g static and to an even balance). The thing is I have to string it very low to increase the very small sweet spot and the comfort.
Do you ever tried this Burn? If yes how it compares to the Bisner? Would be an easy transition?
And at last, is this Bisner smooth when hitting? Does it packs decent feel?

Thanks a lot

I pretty much swore off racquets from Wilson after they stopped making 5/8 grips, so I haven't had a chance to hit with the burn line. The feel of the bisner is slightly muted, but nothing terrible to where you don't get feedback. My only knock on it is that the maneuverability is poor for doubles at the net in quick exchanges. But in terms of smoothness, I find it s weight and balance really let you swing nicely through the ball without crazy bat speed and you get some pretty nice shots. I really like this racquet on my backhand...just nice fluid stroke and a tone of pace and plow. The sweetspot on the bisner is pretty generous and it is very powerful.
 

Burn

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I pretty much swore off racquets from Wilson after they stopped making 5/8 grips, so I haven't had a chance to hit with the burn line. The feel of the bisner is slightly muted, but nothing terrible to where you don't get feedback. My only knock on it is that the maneuverability is poor for doubles at the net in quick exchanges. But in terms of smoothness, I find it s weight and balance really let you swing nicely through the ball without crazy bat speed and you get some pretty nice shots. I really like this racquet on my backhand...just nice fluid stroke and a tone of pace and plow. The sweetspot on the bisner is pretty generous and it is very powerful.

Many thanks...it seems just what I'm looking for :)
 
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Many thanks...it seems just what I'm looking for :)
Yeah it has definitely been one of the best racquets I have played with in the last 6 or so years, the last two versions of the pure drive tour plus were dumpster fires to me and I also thought the last pure aero plus was garbage. I like the new one quite a bit and the 2016 blade, but before the bisner I would always come back to the black pure drive Roddick after demoing something. I think you will like it, but it will take couple of outings to get used to it once you get your hands on a demo, but then when you hit other sticks they just seem flimst in comparison.
 

Burn

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Yeah it has definitely been one of the best racquets I have played with in the last 6 or so years, the last two versions of the pure drive tour plus were dumpster fires to me and I also thought the last pure aero plus was garbage. I like the new one quite a bit and the 2016 blade, but before the bisner I would always come back to the black pure drive Roddick after demoing something. I think you will like it, but it will take couple of outings to get used to it once you get your hands on a demo, but then when you hit other sticks they just seem flimst in comparison.

I've never been a Babolat guy, never liked the hollow feel of their rackets. Played briefly with a Pure Strike Tour some years ago but went back to my trusty Six.One 95. More recently I had a Pure Drive Roddick in my bag that I weighted quite a bit and found out this was the only Babolat I could play with but something was missing...loved the power but lacked the control and feel I was used to. Tried the Burn 95 CV and I got something inbetween but, like I said, the sweetspot is very small and had to string it low to make it more ample and although not hollow like the Babolats is not too far from that. The problem is that tension gets even lower after some games and to the point I start loosing control.

I really hope this Bisner fits the bill and if it is powerfull, solid, plush and comfortable, not hollow, with decent control and feel it just might. The weight and lenght are no issues to me, so manoeuvrability is no issue either. As long as these attributes are there I can't go wrong.
Your insights were highly valuable to me. Thanks my friend.
 

Burn

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Finally I got two Bisners that came from the US, since sadly they were never released in Europe. I’ve logged 2h of singles and 1:30h of doubles so far and I’m in love with it. DonBot was pretty accurate in his review.

This racquet is awesome, massive power from the dark side and yet easy to master. I found this racquet to be very predictable in the string bed and I always felt very connected in my shots and for me that is a must. The extended length doesn’t get in the way and actually helps my game a lot. I thought that it would be a problem in doubles but I’ve come to realize this is the best doubles racquet I’ve played with. Love the weight distribution, love the mass and the swing weight (wouldn’t say 351 but you can surely feel it…maybe around 340). I also felt it has very good control…I could go for the lines with confidence which is something I could never do with any Babolat. This Beast serves huge…the sound of thunder coming from the impact with the ball is overwhelming and then the ball travels at the speed of light only to find your opponent ducking when you serve to the body. Best serving racket I’ve ever had. The smash is pretty in the same order as the serve. The racquet is as stable as the RF97 so Volleys come very easy. The downside is touch…touch shots are not that easy to produce and it’s not the best racquet to knife slice too but I’m still getting use to it (it feels like lacking mass in the hoop). But not too bad and way above any other power racket I've tried (Pure Drives, Aeros, Extremes, etc). I've spend more time getting used to the Burn CV 95 coming from the ProStaff Classic 6.1 than from the Burn to this…it’s really plug and play and I wasn’t expecting that.

I still have just a few hours of game play so it’s kind of an honeymoon period for now. Let’s see how it will work. Made the switch without blinking…this is way better than the Burn.
 
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