Big 4 Record vs Djokovic at Wimbledon

King No1e

G.O.A.T.
As some posters here point out, Federer cannot be the grass GOAT because he has a losing head 2 head record at Wimbledon against one of his top rivals, Djokovic. So let's analyze the statistics by that metric, as whoever leads this stat would logically be the greatest player of all time.

Federer:
1-3 (25%)

Nadal:
1-2 (33%)

Murray:
1-0 (100%)

I find it mind-boggling that people still deny the hard truth even after the math has been done.

Mury GOAT.
 
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King No1e

G.O.A.T.
Too small sample size and that was exhausted and mentally weak 2013 Djokovic.

Shame we never got to see the rematch in 2015, peak Federer took Murray out with his best ever match on grass.
SMH excuses. Sir Andrew is unbeaten against a 5-time Wimbledon champ, and he routined the 8-time champ Federer in the Olympics. He only loses out of pity for his opponents.
 

TripleATeam

G.O.A.T.
Too small sample size and that was exhausted and mentally weak 2013 Djokovic.

Shame we never got to see the rematch in 2015, peak Federer took Murray out with his best ever match on grass.
You forget, Djokovic had his best seasons in 2011 and 2015. You take the average of his two best seasons and you get 2013. Obviously, 2013 was the strongest Novak Djokovic of all time, mury was just too good. Straight setted too.
 
You forget, Djokovic had his best seasons in 2011 and 2015. You take the average of his two best seasons and you get 2013. Obviously, 2013 was the strongest Novak Djokovic of all time, mury was just too good. Straight setted too.
I give Murray his props he’s one of the grass GOATs and one of the best of all time.
 
Peak Djokovic

3-0 vs Federer in Wimbledon finals
2-0 vs Nadal in all Wimbledon matches
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Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
As some posters here point out, Federer cannot be the grass GOAT because he has a losing head 2 head record at Wimbledon against one of his top rivals, Djokovic. So let's analyze the statistics by that metric, as whoever leads this stat would logically be the greatest player of all time.

Federer:
1-3 (25%)

Nadal:
1-2 (33%)

Murray:
1-0 (100%)

I find it mind-boggling that people still deny the hard truth even after the math has been done.

Mury GOAT.
Right. Federer can never be considered GOAT.
This thread ends all discussions about the subject.
Before I leave, I just wanted to thank you for your most valuable contribution to this forum.
 

Tsongerer

Rookie
Lol. 05-07 Fed beats any version of Nole at Wimby and even 08-12 Fed is most likely the favourite vs 11-15 Nole at Wimby.
As for peak Nole beating Fed at nearly age 33, 34 and post peak Nole beating nearly 38 year old Fed, those results are not very relevant for grass GOAT discussions.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Lol. 05-07 Fed beats any version of Nole at Wimby and even 08-12 Fed is most likely the favourite vs 11-15 Nole at Wimby.
As for peak Nole beating Fed at nearly age 33, 34 and post peak Nole beating nearly 38 year old Fed, those results are not very relevant for grass GOAT discussions.
It's just a troll thread, play along ;)
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
As some posters here point out, Federer cannot be the grass GOAT because he has a losing head 2 head record at Wimbledon against one of his top rivals, Djokovic. So let's analyze the statistics by that metric, as whoever leads this stat would logically be the greatest player of all time.

Federer:
1-3 (25%)

Nadal:
1-2 (33%)

Murray:
1-0 (100%)

I find it mind-boggling that people still deny the hard truth even after the math has been done.

Mury GOAT.

Even more arguments in Murray's favour, he leads Novak 2-0 on grass on the whole and is 1-0 against Fed in outdoor BO5 finals on grass.
 

SonnyT

Legend
Djokovic had two 2-year slumps in his career. The 2nd one, from mid '16-mid '18, everyone knows about, in which he won and reached no major final.

The 1st one, from mid'12-mid'14, no one knows and talks about. In it, he was 1-5 in major finals. Murray won both of his two finals victories against Nole in that slump. Djokovic never lost to Murray a major match outside of that slump. Djokovic also lost two major SF's in that period, both are pretty famous ('12 Wim vs Federer and '13 RG against Nadal).
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
As some posters here point out, Federer cannot be the grass GOAT because he has a losing head 2 head record at Wimbledon against one of his top rivals, Djokovic. So let's analyze the statistics by that metric, as whoever leads this stat would logically be the greatest player of all time.

Federer:
1-3 (25%)

Nadal:
1-2 (33%)

Murray:
1-0 (100%)


I find it mind-boggling that people still deny the hard truth even after the math has been done.

Mury GOAT.

Chuck in the Olympics and it's 2-0.
 
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Deleted member 768841

Guest
It actually doesn’t say much about Murray, he played Djokovic once and won. Compare That to Nadal and Federer, who have played him multiple times.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
It actually doesn’t say much about Murray, he played Djokovic once and won. Compare That to Nadal and Federer, who have played him multiple times.

Played him twice on Centre Court at Wimbledon and never dropped a set. It maybe says a little.
 

King No1e

G.O.A.T.
Played him twice on Centre Court at Wimbledon and never dropped a set. It maybe says a little.
Yep. Unlike Federer and Nadal, he's never lost to Djokovic on grass. And unlike Sampras, Laver, Borg, Connors or any other mug whom people like to pretend is better than Mury, he's beaten Djokovic on grass.
Mury GOAT.
 

SonnyT

Legend
Murray caught Djokovic in one of the latter's slumps: and was not good enough to play Djokovic multiple times in Wimbledon's late stages, unlike Federer and Nadal! Murray was easily defeated in straight sets by Federer in both '14 & '15, who then lost to Djokovic!
 
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