blake's racket spec
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LowProfile
Professional
It's heavy as hell.
Richie Rich
Legend
no, it's not.LowProfile said:
PurePrestige
Semi-Pro
Blake, James (USA)
Grip Size (4) 4 1/2
Weight 364grams
Balance 30.2cm
Length 68.5cm
LUXILON ALU POWER 1.25 31kg/31kg
These specs are unstrung I think, from Pro Racquet Specs thread.
Grip Size (4) 4 1/2
Weight 364grams
Balance 30.2cm
Length 68.5cm
LUXILON ALU POWER 1.25 31kg/31kg
These specs are unstrung I think, from Pro Racquet Specs thread.
Richie Rich
Legend
PurePrestige said:
364g = 12.8 oz and that's strung weight. not heavy at all.
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
Richie Rich said:
No the racket is 13.5oz strung
Greg Raven
Semi-Pro
Richie Rich said:
A couple years ago at the Mercedes Cup in Los Angeles, Blake's Dunlop 200G Muscle Weave was 354 grams.
PurePrestige
Semi-Pro
Is that 354 grams strung or unstrung with the 200g?
Richie Rich
Legend
no, it's not that heavy - it doesn't feel that heavy anyway. i'll weigh the one i have without strings and i'll post here. i have to go to the post office today anyway. what do a set of alu power add to a racquet?jackson vile said:
Richie Rich
Legend
thanks for the info. 12.5 oz range seems more reasonable than the 13+oz numbers others have posted.Greg Raven said:
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
Sorry Jura posted the information right here These specs are unstrung http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=68263
The racket is 13.4oz strung and either 8-10pt head light
The racket is 13.4oz strung and either 8-10pt head light
Richie Rich
Legend
jackson vile said:
i just weighed one of JB's racquets and it weighed 327g unstrung, which is something like 11.8oz. add a set of alu and it's closer to Greg Raven's 354g. definately not 13.4 oz strung, unless JB weights his racquets up heavier for clay than hardcourt (which is a possibility and would explain why jura's weight, taken at the FO, is an ounce heavier than normal)
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
Richie Rich said:
Wow that would be quite the change for clay LOL
There would not be any room for customization, and that is only 12.5oz So the SW could not be very high at all.
Also would not explain why Tommy Haas' racket which is exactly the same weighs more with the same modifictions.
I would want to see unstrung specs out side of clay to know for sure.
Finally it would be very stang to see a pro with strokes like that with a 12.5oz racket and 68lbs Alu power
Not to offend you but I am not so sure you have a athentic JB racket, there should be weight in the handle.
Could you tell us the balance? And pics of this? Thanks
Richie Rich
Legend
jackson vile said:
not to offend you but would you know what an authentic JB racquet looks and feels like? why is it so hard for you to believe that a pro uses a racquet less than 13 oz? that's pretty common these days.
are we sure jura's specs are unstrung? the 364g strung supports my measurements and Greg Ravens weight measurement of approx 12.5-12.8 oz strung.
here's the thread with pics of the racquet i have
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=122915
Richie Rich
Legend
jackson vile said:
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
That I fina and all but with your measurments his racket is less than 12.5oz.
That makes no sense and would leave no room to customize, with weighting and blance would mean that he has a very low SW
Where did you get your racket? We know for a fact that the rackets Jura posted were used at that tournament. We know nothing about your racket, IMO they too out all the lead, as there should be lead in the handle and under the bumper
That makes no sense and would leave no room to customize, with weighting and blance would mean that he has a very low SW
Where did you get your racket? We know for a fact that the rackets Jura posted were used at that tournament. We know nothing about your racket, IMO they too out all the lead, as there should be lead in the handle and under the bumper
Richie Rich
Legend
jackson vile said:
there may be some missing lead on the frame i have, there may not be. who knows?
there is a full ounce in weight differential.just a co-incidence that Grag Ravens weight measurement he took of JB's racquet corresponds with my measurements?
if other stringers (besides jura) or any other person who has one of JB's racquets can verify the higher weight then I'll know for sure my racquet is missing some lead. Until then I'll go with the weight of the racquet I have and what Greg Raven has reported.
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
Richie Rich said:there may be some missing lead on the frame i have, there may not be. who knows?
just a co-incidence that Grag Ravens weight measurement he took of JB's racquet corresponds with my measurements?
if other stringers (besides jura) or any other person who has one of JB's racquets can verify the higher weight then I'll know for sure my racquet is missing some lead. Until then I'll go with the weight of the racquet I have and what Greg Raven has reported.
Oh I'm not forcing you to do anything LOL I am simply using what is called logic.
You still have not answered where you got the racket from, and still no pics of blance and weight. Also when did you buy it?
I am guessing that either 1) someone is selling fake rackets (which happens so so much it is sickening) or 2) people selling or getting the rackets to sell are getting them either unstrung or restung because the weights are being taken out.
We could really tell this if the grip is not original or if it looks as if the grip has been unwrapped and then rewrapped.
These racket companies and fake racket makers go to very very large lengths to fool people as the comon tennis player still believes that people use advertised rackets as is.
One thing that bothers me is that your racket and greg's racket look brand spank'n new, next is that when is the last time Blake use the HM? What was the date.
I think you have been fooled, and personally I will go with offical tournament specs, that we know are taken from the pros strung and then handed back and are 100% for sure they are played with at said tournament.
Richie Rich
Legend
jackson vile said:
i'm trying really hard to be diplomatic with you but you're not thinking too straight on this one. i guess you think you have it all figured out - but you have only second hand info to go on and are coming up with some really crazy reasons to support yourself.
the hotmelt PJ has nothing to do with anything since JB racquet has never been a real dunlop frame anyway. mfil, mw, hm - all the same frame.
the grip is a prince grip with the price molded shape.
implying it's potentially a fake is really out to lunch. i guess you think there are plenty customized paintjobbed 18x20 dunlop 300g's being passed around. it was even autographed by JB with a COA and it came with a personal letter on his mgmt co's letterhead. i never mentioned this before because it had nothing to do with the weight of the frame....but since you questioned the source of the racquet there you go.
how do you want me to take pics of balance and weight? i don't have a balnce board. i gave you the weight - right from a postal scale. what are further pics going to prove? do you think i'm pulling a number out of the air?
i'm agreeing with you that there may not be the normal amount of lead added to the frame that i have. there is that possibility. however, i have no reason to believe that this is the case.
anyway, believe what you want about the racquet. no skin off my nose. when you get one of JB's racquets then you will be in a position to confirm or refute the actual weight of the frame. until then you are just guessing.
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
For me this really confirms it, that the racket has been dewaited.
Also you do not need a blance board to measure the balance, do you have a pen or pencil and a flat surface along with a measuring tape?
That would help tell us the SW because if the SW is only around say 337 then we know of a fact that it is not how he plays the racket.
What I think happend is that they made so many of the rackets and that they were never intended for Blake to play with, their fore it is not weighted.
There is a large difference between buy a specialty signature racket and measuring and weighting one on tour and getting one at a game as many have.
A good example would be Safin's rackets before weighting, ect many pros have a base frame ect, once it is in their hands they have their stringer or someone like PRNY weight it for them.
Your racket is a commemorative/limited edt racket, that is why it looks so new.
As for the coment of the HM or M-Fill yes it does matter as weighting could have changed, so in that instance it would explain a lot.
Either way you have a racket that is virtually stock.
Final no reason to get your panties in a bunch, relax I have made no personal attacks so there is nothing to get upset about.
Also you do not need a blance board to measure the balance, do you have a pen or pencil and a flat surface along with a measuring tape?
That would help tell us the SW because if the SW is only around say 337 then we know of a fact that it is not how he plays the racket.
What I think happend is that they made so many of the rackets and that they were never intended for Blake to play with, their fore it is not weighted.
There is a large difference between buy a specialty signature racket and measuring and weighting one on tour and getting one at a game as many have.
A good example would be Safin's rackets before weighting, ect many pros have a base frame ect, once it is in their hands they have their stringer or someone like PRNY weight it for them.
Your racket is a commemorative/limited edt racket, that is why it looks so new.
As for the coment of the HM or M-Fill yes it does matter as weighting could have changed, so in that instance it would explain a lot.
Either way you have a racket that is virtually stock.
Final no reason to get your panties in a bunch, relax I have made no personal attacks so there is nothing to get upset about.
Richie Rich
Legend
ya, my panties have been in a bunch lately (no idea why) so i do apologize.
the more i think about it the more i think you may be right that the racquet is not completely customized in terms of weight. there may be additional lead missing from the handle and bumper.
i roughly got a balance point of 12.5 inches from the end of the handle. that would make it 1 inch, or 25.4mm headlight unstrung. the static weight unstrung was 327g. strung close to 350g. not sure how to calc SW.
i guess the only way to be 100% sure of JB's racquet weight is to go to a tournament with a scale and grab JB after a practice session and weigh his racquet. or grab a cracked one that some people seem to get hold of every now and then
the more i think about it the more i think you may be right that the racquet is not completely customized in terms of weight. there may be additional lead missing from the handle and bumper.
i roughly got a balance point of 12.5 inches from the end of the handle. that would make it 1 inch, or 25.4mm headlight unstrung. the static weight unstrung was 327g. strung close to 350g. not sure how to calc SW.
i guess the only way to be 100% sure of JB's racquet weight is to go to a tournament with a scale and grab JB after a practice session and weigh his racquet. or grab a cracked one that some people seem to get hold of every now and then
