Blind Loyalty to ANY one player/team is foolish.

FlamingCheeto

Hall of Fame
One day you'll have to open your eyes team Djokovic.

At least this guy gets it:

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Djokovic rant (from an ex true fan) (not me but I was also a fan many moons ago)

Let me preface this by saying that I have been one of Djokovic’s most vivacious and loyal supporters; I stood up for him during the Adria Tour fiasco, and subsequently, when he contracted COVID; I defended him fervently when he throated the line judge in Flushing Meadows, a year and a half ago; I watched with glee as Djokovic lifted grand slams eighteen, nineteen, and twenty, and while I was happy for Medvedev, I still felt upset and disappointed by the ending to last year’s US Open. Unfortunately, I can no longer call myself a Djokovic fan. Here’s why…

Let’s start at the beginning: I’m a relatively new tennis fan. I’ve played the sport since I was six, and I’ve vaguely followed the pros for quite a while. I supported Agassi back in the day, and then transferred that support to Federer and del Potro. However, I was never a major fan; while I’d occasionally watch a final or a semifinal of one of the slams, that was the extent of my engagement with professional tennis.

I vaguely remember Djokovic lifting the title at Wimbledon in 2011, and I also have a scant memory of him beating Nadal at the subsequent US Open. I remember watching the highlights for that scintillating 2012 Australian Open final, but for the most part, I spent the early 2010s as the tennis fan equivalent of a journeyman: occasionally dipping into the tour, but primarily absorbing myself with other engagements.

In Spring, 2013, my love for professional tennis would begin. I was at my favorite burger place, and I noticed that tennis was on. The match was on sizzling red clay, “Right, it’s the French Open”, I deduced. The two combatants were not unfamiliar to me. One was Rafael Nadal, who was, as the commentators explained, the three time defending champion. The other, was a stalky Serbian wearing a soothing aqua-blue Uniqlo kit, I quickly recognized him to be Novak Djokovic.

As I watched the match progress, I was stunned by the brutal physicality of the rallies, the blazing shots, the unbelievable movement of both players, and the seemingly endless points; it felt more like a gladiator duel than a tennis match. Then, something seemingly bizarre happened, Djokovic sprinted to the net, and put away an easy overhead. All of a sudden, I noticed he had lost the point, and Nadal was pointing at him. On replay, it became apparent that he had touched the net. I watched in awe as this random glitch in Djokovic’s seemingly robotic and impervious game derailed him. All of a sudden, Djokovic went from leading, to behind, and then, it was over. “Joue, set, et, match, Nadal.”, the umpire announced. Somewhat awestruck, all I could think was, “What the **** did I just watch?”, suffice to say, I was hooked.

From there, my obsession with pro-tennis would explode. I watched as Murray, seemingly out of nowhere, lifted the 2013 Wimbledon trophy. I vividly remember watching the Rogers Cup final that year, and watching as Nadal beat Djokovic in what seemed to be yet another impossible epic. I had seen highlights from the 2012 Australian Open final, and had watched some of the 2011 US Open final, but I was - for the first time - realizing how astonishingly physical Nadal and Djokovic matches were. Enamored, I watched as Nadal and Djokovic again faced off, this time in the final of the 2013 US Open. Again, it was Nadal who got the better of Djokovic.

I had no strong feelings about either man at the time, and I was still very much a Federer devotee. But, as the years of the 2010s flew by, I found myself increasingly supporting Djokovic. By the time the 2018 Wimbledon semifinal rolled around, I was cheering “IDEMO” like a depraved Serbian after happy hour. I watched as Djokovic axed my former favorite player, del Potro, in the following grand slam final, and I cheered for Djokovic the whole time.

I loved Djokovic’s fighting spirit, and his rough class. Perhaps Djokovic wasn’t the polished diplomatic businessman type like Federer, nor was he reminiscent of the straight-talking, non-controversial Nadal. Djokovic would poke fun of reporters, say what he thought, and yell and growl on court. However, he was funny, and very gracious to his opponents in defeat; he was a human who wasn’t afraid to put his flaws and his strengths on full display.

I continued following Djokovic, watching in ebullience as he defeated Dominic Thiem at the 2020 Australian Open. Then, the PR nightmares began. As the coronavirus pandemic shut down the world, Djokovic was holding a tour with no masks, and no testing. This tour, was, as we all now know, a catastrophe. But I stood by Djokovic: “perhaps he’s just a very misguided man who’s also very passionate about tennis”, I reasoned. I defended him after his default from the US Open that same year; and I still kinda do, actually, basically every player has done what he did (hit a ball behind them), and he got unlucky. It was still reckless, don’t get me wrong, and he deserved to be defaulted, but I don’t think he meant to hit the line judge.

I’ve always believed that Djokovic is nothing more than misguided, but with this COVID test scandal, I can no longer advocate on his behalf. He’s either a liar, and / or someone with no regards to the lives and well-beings of others; either he exposed countless people to COVID, or he fraudulently faked a COVID test. (This seems more probable — was he really just gonna skip Australia?) Djokovic has created for himself a messy moral stain on tennis. His self righteousness has gotten the better of him, and has taken him from someone who seemed misguided, but still probably a decent guy, to a megalomaniac narcissist who cares little for people not named Novak Djokovic.

I still love his tennis, and appreciate his fighting spirit, but I will never root for him again. There is a 99.99% chance that he’s either morally, legally or ethically reprehensible. I can no longer give him either the benefit of the doubt, or plausible deniability.

I hope he gets deported.
 

vex

Legend
His tennis is inspiring. I still love watching his matches against Fed/Rafa WAY more than them playing each other.

But his self destruction between the refusal to get surgery, the throat incident, repeatedly acting like a rage monster when he’s playing poorly, his increasing tendency to play super safe tennis and now this complete self-inflicted debacle… can’t root for him. He’s played a bunch of stupid games and his career has suffered for it. Dude would have 22-25 slams already if his head was screwed on straight. Hoping for 20/20/20 at this point. Would be fitting.
 

pj80

Legend
One day you'll have to open your eyes team Djokovic.

At least this guy gets it:

__________________________________________________________
Djokovic rant (from an ex true fan) (not me but I was also a fan many moons ago)

Let me preface this by saying that I have been one of Djokovic’s most vivacious and loyal supporters; I stood up for him during the Adria Tour fiasco, and subsequently, when he contracted COVID; I defended him fervently when he throated the line judge in Flushing Meadows, a year and a half ago; I watched with glee as Djokovic lifted grand slams eighteen, nineteen, and twenty, and while I was happy for Medvedev, I still felt upset and disappointed by the ending to last year’s US Open. Unfortunately, I can no longer call myself a Djokovic fan. Here’s why…

Let’s start at the beginning: I’m a relatively new tennis fan. I’ve played the sport since I was six, and I’ve vaguely followed the pros for quite a while. I supported Agassi back in the day, and then transferred that support to Federer and del Potro. However, I was never a major fan; while I’d occasionally watch a final or a semifinal of one of the slams, that was the extent of my engagement with professional tennis.

I vaguely remember Djokovic lifting the title at Wimbledon in 2011, and I also have a scant memory of him beating Nadal at the subsequent US Open. I remember watching the highlights for that scintillating 2012 Australian Open final, but for the most part, I spent the early 2010s as the tennis fan equivalent of a journeyman: occasionally dipping into the tour, but primarily absorbing myself with other engagements.

In Spring, 2013, my love for professional tennis would begin. I was at my favorite burger place, and I noticed that tennis was on. The match was on sizzling red clay, “Right, it’s the French Open”, I deduced. The two combatants were not unfamiliar to me. One was Rafael Nadal, who was, as the commentators explained, the three time defending champion. The other, was a stalky Serbian wearing a soothing aqua-blue Uniqlo kit, I quickly recognized him to be Novak Djokovic.

As I watched the match progress, I was stunned by the brutal physicality of the rallies, the blazing shots, the unbelievable movement of both players, and the seemingly endless points; it felt more like a gladiator duel than a tennis match. Then, something seemingly bizarre happened, Djokovic sprinted to the net, and put away an easy overhead. All of a sudden, I noticed he had lost the point, and Nadal was pointing at him. On replay, it became apparent that he had touched the net. I watched in awe as this random glitch in Djokovic’s seemingly robotic and impervious game derailed him. All of a sudden, Djokovic went from leading, to behind, and then, it was over. “Joue, set, et, match, Nadal.”, the umpire announced. Somewhat awestruck, all I could think was, “What the **** did I just watch?”, suffice to say, I was hooked.

From there, my obsession with pro-tennis would explode. I watched as Murray, seemingly out of nowhere, lifted the 2013 Wimbledon trophy. I vividly remember watching the Rogers Cup final that year, and watching as Nadal beat Djokovic in what seemed to be yet another impossible epic. I had seen highlights from the 2012 Australian Open final, and had watched some of the 2011 US Open final, but I was - for the first time - realizing how astonishingly physical Nadal and Djokovic matches were. Enamored, I watched as Nadal and Djokovic again faced off, this time in the final of the 2013 US Open. Again, it was Nadal who got the better of Djokovic.

I had no strong feelings about either man at the time, and I was still very much a Federer devotee. But, as the years of the 2010s flew by, I found myself increasingly supporting Djokovic. By the time the 2018 Wimbledon semifinal rolled around, I was cheering “IDEMO” like a depraved Serbian after happy hour. I watched as Djokovic axed my former favorite player, del Potro, in the following grand slam final, and I cheered for Djokovic the whole time.

I loved Djokovic’s fighting spirit, and his rough class. Perhaps Djokovic wasn’t the polished diplomatic businessman type like Federer, nor was he reminiscent of the straight-talking, non-controversial Nadal. Djokovic would poke fun of reporters, say what he thought, and yell and growl on court. However, he was funny, and very gracious to his opponents in defeat; he was a human who wasn’t afraid to put his flaws and his strengths on full display.

I continued following Djokovic, watching in ebullience as he defeated Dominic Thiem at the 2020 Australian Open. Then, the PR nightmares began. As the coronavirus pandemic shut down the world, Djokovic was holding a tour with no masks, and no testing. This tour, was, as we all now know, a catastrophe. But I stood by Djokovic: “perhaps he’s just a very misguided man who’s also very passionate about tennis”, I reasoned. I defended him after his default from the US Open that same year; and I still kinda do, actually, basically every player has done what he did (hit a ball behind them), and he got unlucky. It was still reckless, don’t get me wrong, and he deserved to be defaulted, but I don’t think he meant to hit the line judge.

I’ve always believed that Djokovic is nothing more than misguided, but with this COVID test scandal, I can no longer advocate on his behalf. He’s either a liar, and / or someone with no regards to the lives and well-beings of others; either he exposed countless people to COVID, or he fraudulently faked a COVID test. (This seems more probable — was he really just gonna skip Australia?) Djokovic has created for himself a messy moral stain on tennis. His self righteousness has gotten the better of him, and has taken him from someone who seemed misguided, but still probably a decent guy, to a megalomaniac narcissist who cares little for people not named Novak Djokovic.

I still love his tennis, and appreciate his fighting spirit, but I will never root for him again. There is a 99.99% chance that he’s either morally, legally or ethically reprehensible. I can no longer give him either the benefit of the doubt, or plausible deniability.

I hope he gets deported.
It also foolish to hate someone you never met so much....just because he has the best stats in tennis.
 

TheAssassin

Legend
There is always space for criticism, and it takes a fool to not see how reckless he was recently, but at the end of the day the decision on who you are going to root for is none of other people's business.

#TeamDjokovic
 

pj80

Legend
It's not hate my friend, in fact I too was an ex fan, great tennis player. But you know what's truly foolish. Loving someone with blind loyalty who you have never met, and refuse to ever accept any criticism or admit that they were wrong.
I just see Djokovic as someone who tried to play a Tennis Tournament at all costs....something which he should have the right to without being coerced into bodily injection of something that will very likely do him more harm than good.
 
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Shu-Pak

Rookie
LOL. Thread should be re-named. Blind loyalty to any government/authority is foolish.

Djokovic is at least standing up for his beliefs and refuses to be coerced into any medical procedures. I will always respect him for that.
 
It is slightly disappointing just how tribal tennis supporting has become. I blame forums, social media, and Djokovic.
Everything is like that these days not least politics and any social viewpount. A person has to be defined by one stance and can only be entirely right or entirely wrong. It is a very juvenile mind set. It reminds me of kids discussing which pop group is better.
 

MurraysMetalHip

Hall of Fame
Everything is like that these days not least politics and any social viewpount. A person has to be defined by one stance and can only be entirely right or entirely wrong. It is a very juvenile mind set. It reminds me of kids discussing which pop group is better.

so which is your favourite pop group?
 

Beulah Jesus

Hall of Fame
One day you'll have to open your eyes team Djokovic.

At least this guy gets it:

__________________________________________________________
Djokovic rant (from an ex true fan) (not me but I was also a fan many moons ago)

Let me preface this by saying that I have been one of Djokovic’s most vivacious and loyal supporters; I stood up for him during the Adria Tour fiasco, and subsequently, when he contracted COVID; I defended him fervently when he throated the line judge in Flushing Meadows, a year and a half ago; I watched with glee as Djokovic lifted grand slams eighteen, nineteen, and twenty, and while I was happy for Medvedev, I still felt upset and disappointed by the ending to last year’s US Open. Unfortunately, I can no longer call myself a Djokovic fan. Here’s why…

Let’s start at the beginning: I’m a relatively new tennis fan. I’ve played the sport since I was six, and I’ve vaguely followed the pros for quite a while. I supported Agassi back in the day, and then transferred that support to Federer and del Potro. However, I was never a major fan; while I’d occasionally watch a final or a semifinal of one of the slams, that was the extent of my engagement with professional tennis.

I vaguely remember Djokovic lifting the title at Wimbledon in 2011, and I also have a scant memory of him beating Nadal at the subsequent US Open. I remember watching the highlights for that scintillating 2012 Australian Open final, but for the most part, I spent the early 2010s as the tennis fan equivalent of a journeyman: occasionally dipping into the tour, but primarily absorbing myself with other engagements.

In Spring, 2013, my love for professional tennis would begin. I was at my favorite burger place, and I noticed that tennis was on. The match was on sizzling red clay, “Right, it’s the French Open”, I deduced. The two combatants were not unfamiliar to me. One was Rafael Nadal, who was, as the commentators explained, the three time defending champion. The other, was a stalky Serbian wearing a soothing aqua-blue Uniqlo kit, I quickly recognized him to be Novak Djokovic.

As I watched the match progress, I was stunned by the brutal physicality of the rallies, the blazing shots, the unbelievable movement of both players, and the seemingly endless points; it felt more like a gladiator duel than a tennis match. Then, something seemingly bizarre happened, Djokovic sprinted to the net, and put away an easy overhead. All of a sudden, I noticed he had lost the point, and Nadal was pointing at him. On replay, it became apparent that he had touched the net. I watched in awe as this random glitch in Djokovic’s seemingly robotic and impervious game derailed him. All of a sudden, Djokovic went from leading, to behind, and then, it was over. “Joue, set, et, match, Nadal.”, the umpire announced. Somewhat awestruck, all I could think was, “What the **** did I just watch?”, suffice to say, I was hooked.

From there, my obsession with pro-tennis would explode. I watched as Murray, seemingly out of nowhere, lifted the 2013 Wimbledon trophy. I vividly remember watching the Rogers Cup final that year, and watching as Nadal beat Djokovic in what seemed to be yet another impossible epic. I had seen highlights from the 2012 Australian Open final, and had watched some of the 2011 US Open final, but I was - for the first time - realizing how astonishingly physical Nadal and Djokovic matches were. Enamored, I watched as Nadal and Djokovic again faced off, this time in the final of the 2013 US Open. Again, it was Nadal who got the better of Djokovic.

I had no strong feelings about either man at the time, and I was still very much a Federer devotee. But, as the years of the 2010s flew by, I found myself increasingly supporting Djokovic. By the time the 2018 Wimbledon semifinal rolled around, I was cheering “IDEMO” like a depraved Serbian after happy hour. I watched as Djokovic axed my former favorite player, del Potro, in the following grand slam final, and I cheered for Djokovic the whole time.

I loved Djokovic’s fighting spirit, and his rough class. Perhaps Djokovic wasn’t the polished diplomatic businessman type like Federer, nor was he reminiscent of the straight-talking, non-controversial Nadal. Djokovic would poke fun of reporters, say what he thought, and yell and growl on court. However, he was funny, and very gracious to his opponents in defeat; he was a human who wasn’t afraid to put his flaws and his strengths on full display.

I continued following Djokovic, watching in ebullience as he defeated Dominic Thiem at the 2020 Australian Open. Then, the PR nightmares began. As the coronavirus pandemic shut down the world, Djokovic was holding a tour with no masks, and no testing. This tour, was, as we all now know, a catastrophe. But I stood by Djokovic: “perhaps he’s just a very misguided man who’s also very passionate about tennis”, I reasoned. I defended him after his default from the US Open that same year; and I still kinda do, actually, basically every player has done what he did (hit a ball behind them), and he got unlucky. It was still reckless, don’t get me wrong, and he deserved to be defaulted, but I don’t think he meant to hit the line judge.

I’ve always believed that Djokovic is nothing more than misguided, but with this COVID test scandal, I can no longer advocate on his behalf. He’s either a liar, and / or someone with no regards to the lives and well-beings of others; either he exposed countless people to COVID, or he fraudulently faked a COVID test. (This seems more probable — was he really just gonna skip Australia?) Djokovic has created for himself a messy moral stain on tennis. His self righteousness has gotten the better of him, and has taken him from someone who seemed misguided, but still probably a decent guy, to a megalomaniac narcissist who cares little for people not named Novak Djokovic.

I still love his tennis, and appreciate his fighting spirit, but I will never root for him again. There is a 99.99% chance that he’s either morally, legally or ethically reprehensible. I can no longer give him either the benefit of the doubt, or plausible deniability.

I hope he gets deported.
Wow!!! Too lazy to read this... Anybody with a summary?
 

Adam Copeland

Hall of Fame
The original article was written by some dunderhead fake fan, no true fan will be a fan from 18 to 19 and to 20 and then during corona episode change camps :D :D
 

Adam Copeland

Hall of Fame
Our fanfare for players is not because we want them to be perfect, only fake fans will talk like that.

A true fan will connect with a player on levels which will not change with any controversy.
 
I can’t stand Howard now. And quite frankly he’s in no position to judge character after all the stuff he’s pulled over the years.
I have listened to Howard Stern several times, but always tuned out each time after about 1 minute. 1 minute and you already know what he was talking about the last 30 minutes and what he will be talking about the next 30 minutes.
 

TopspintheTerrible

Hall of Fame
I have listened to Howard Stern several times, but always tuned out each time after about 1 minute. 1 minute and you already know what he was talking about the last 30 minutes and what he will be talking about the next 30 minutes.
His show was hilarious in the 1990s. Since he moved to Sirius, it’s never been the same.
 

Candide

Hall of Fame
The rest of the world already figured it out...

Wow, this is so mean portraying Novak as an anti-science woo-woo merchant when he's been certified as a paragon of reason and science by no less an authority than an accredited nutritionist. You can't argue with that kind of donkey cheese.

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LOL. Thread should be re-named. Blind loyalty to any government/authority is foolish.

Djokovic is at least standing up for his beliefs and refuses to be coerced into any medical procedures. I will always respect him for that.

Is he standing up for his beliefs? I don't think he is, because he's not really saying what those beliefs are. Sandgren is standing up for his beliefs: he thinks that he shouldn't be forced to be vaccinated and he's willing to miss the Australian Open so as not to be. Djokovic is trying to have his cake and eat it too. He's not willing to be vaccinated but he's not willing to stick to his guns on it and accept the consequences, so he's trying to get round the Australian Open's rules. If he were challenging the vaccine requirement and saying that he thinks he should be allowed to play the Australian Open unvaccinated, that'd also be different.
 

vex

Legend
Is he standing up for his beliefs? I don't think he is, because he's not really saying what those beliefs are. Sandgren is standing up for his beliefs: he thinks that he shouldn't be forced to be vaccinated and he's willing to miss the Australian Open so as not to be. Djokovic is trying to have his cake and eat it too. He's not willing to be vaccinated but he's not willing to stick to his guns on it and accept the consequences, so he's trying to get round the Australian Open's rules. If he were challenging the vaccine requirement and saying that he thinks he should be allowed to play the Australian Open unvaccinated, that'd also be different.
He’s not standing up for anything lol.
he’d be protesting if he was standing up for something, not trying to sneak in
 
He’s not standing up for anything lol.
he’d be protesting if he was standing up for something, not trying to sneak in

Agreed completely. He's standing up for self-interest, I suppose. But if he really has a principled objection to a vaccine requirement, he should either not participate in the event or launch a protest so that all unvaccinated people be allowed to compete. He's acting only on his own behalf.
 

Shu-Pak

Rookie
Is he standing up for his beliefs? I don't think he is, because he's not really saying what those beliefs are. Sandgren is standing up for his beliefs: he thinks that he shouldn't be forced to be vaccinated and he's willing to miss the Australian Open so as not to be. Djokovic is trying to have his cake and eat it too. He's not willing to be vaccinated but he's not willing to stick to his guns on it and accept the consequences, so he's trying to get round the Australian Open's rules. If he were challenging the vaccine requirement and saying that he thinks he should be allowed to play the Australian Open unvaccinated, that'd also be different.

Well, technically you're right but it's not up to Djokovic to stand up for anyone. He can only look after himself. Sandgren could have done things differently? I dunno.
Djokovic got an exemption by being covid positive within the past 6 months. That was allowed. That's all it is. He was never going to be vaccinated anyway.
 
Well, technically you're right but it's not up to Djokovic to stand up for anyone. He can only look after himself. Sandgren could have done things differently? I dunno.
Djokovic got an exemption by being covid positive within the past 6 months. That was allowed. That's all it is. He was never going to be vaccinated anyway.

What do you think he'd have done if he didn't have the positive covid test? I must say I suspect that he faked the covid test so as to get in, and I don't think that that type of sneakiness should be considered standing up for beliefs. If he didn't fake the covid test, he just got very lucky.
 

Shu-Pak

Rookie
What do you think he'd have done if he didn't have the positive covid test? I must say I suspect that he faked the covid test so as to get in, and I don't think that that type of sneakiness should be considered standing up for beliefs. If he didn't fake the covid test, he just got very lucky.

Well, I do think that if he wasn't Covid positive he would have skipped the event as I see Djokovic as someone who will absolutely refuse to put something into his body that he thinks is unnecessary or could cause him harm.
Did he fake the covid test? Again, I don't think he did. Did he hang around some friends/crowds that were covid positive so he could test positive? Hmmm.....possibly yes??? But again, all guesses and we will never know.

Let's not get carried away by calling someone sneaky though. It's pure speculation on our part.
 
Well, I do think that if he wasn't Covid positive he would have skipped the event as I see Djokovic as someone who will absolutely refuse to put something into his body that he thinks is unnecessary or could cause him harm.
Did he fake the covid test? Again, I don't think he did. Did he hang around some friends/crowds that were covid positive so he could test positive? Hmmm.....possibly yes??? But again, all guesses and we will never know.

Let's not get carried away by calling someone sneaky though. It's pure speculation on our part.

I agree that he wouldn't have got the vaccine, but I think he'd have tried to find another way to get round the vaccine requirement if he didn't have the positive test. I think he was just as committed to finding a way to play the tournament as to not getting vaccinated.

I'm sorry but I think that hanging around people so as to try to get infected so as to get an exemption so as to play the tournament is also pretty sneaky, so I just don't see a way round regarding his behavior as either sneaky or lucky.
 

Shu-Pak

Rookie
I agree that he wouldn't have got the vaccine, but I think he'd have tried to find another way to get round the vaccine requirement if he didn't have the positive test. I think he was just as committed to finding a way to play the tournament as to not getting vaccinated.

I'm sorry but I think that hanging around people so as to try to get infected so as to get an exemption so as to play the tournament is also pretty sneaky, so I just don't see a way round regarding his behavior as either sneaky or lucky.


Well omicron is 10-20X orders of magnitude more contagious than the delta strain but less severe. Even going shopping indoors could make you susceptible to catching it. It's spreading like wildfire all over the globe. So yes, he could have caught it by being "lucky" as you call it. I doubt he got it using some sneaky tactics.
Again, I'm a massive Djoko-**** so I'll always give him the benefit of the doubt even though I know nothing about him personally.
 
Well omicron is 10-20X orders of magnitude more contagious than the delta strain but less severe. Even going shopping indoors could make you susceptible to catching it. It's spreading like wildfire all over the globe. So yes, he could have caught it by being "lucky" as you call it. I doubt he got it using some sneaky tactics.
Again, I'm a massive Djoko-**** so I'll always give him the benefit of the doubt even though I know nothing about him personally.

It is indeed very contagious. I'm pretty surprised that I haven't caught it myself yet. So perhaps he was lucky. I used to be quite fond of Djokovic but this saga has really soured me towards him. I understand you giving him the benefit of the doubt, though, so I'm not going to try to persuade you to change your mind any further!
 

FlamingCheeto

Hall of Fame
Well omicron is 10-20X orders of magnitude more contagious than the delta strain but less severe. Even going shopping indoors could make you susceptible to catching it. It's spreading like wildfire all over the globe. So yes, he could have caught it by being "lucky" as you call it. I doubt he got it using some sneaky tactics.
Again, I'm a massive Djoko-**** so I'll always give him the benefit of the doubt even though I know nothing about him personally.
And THAT is wherein the problem lies, giving him "benefit of the doubt" when he's absolutely wrong in this case. Kind of like believing the election was rigged or stolen, which is 100% FALSE yet Trumps followers continue to give him the benefit of the doubt. It's not a doubt, it's fact.
 

Shu-Pak

Rookie
It is indeed very contagious. I'm pretty surprised that I haven't caught it myself yet. So perhaps he was lucky. I used to be quite fond of Djokovic but this saga has really soured me towards him. I understand you giving him the benefit of the doubt, though, so I'm not going to try to persuade you to change your mind any further!

No worries. Everyone has their favorites and I respect that.
 

ffw2

Hall of Fame
It is indeed very contagious. I'm pretty surprised that I haven't caught it myself yet. So perhaps he was lucky. I used to be quite fond of Djokovic but this saga has really soured me towards him. I understand you giving him the benefit of the doubt, though, so I'm not going to try to persuade you to change your mind any further!
How frequently are you tested?

Word on the street is that the 'rona is heading everyone's way.
 

Shu-Pak

Rookie
And THAT is wherein the problem lies, giving him "benefit of the doubt" when he's absolutely wrong in this case. Kind of like believing the election was rigged or stolen, which is 100% FALSE yet Trumps followers continue to give him the benefit of the doubt. It's not a doubt, it's fact.

For sure bruh.
Let's not jump to any conclusions on Djokovic. We don't know anything.

Also wondering why you mention Trump? What does he or the US election have to do with this? LOL
 
How frequently are you tested?

Word on the street is that the 'rona is heading everyone's way.

Since Omicron hit, I guess I've been testing twice a week. Last time I tested was on Tuesday, because I was going to see my parents, who are in their mid-70s (and my dad very nearly died of Covid a year ago). I had relatives staying over Christmas/New Year so I was careful to test before seeing them, and I had an exposure, so I tested every day for five or six days at that point.
 
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