Bought a Wilson Pro Staff 97LS, Variation of Federer's Own Racquet

macattack

macattack

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jordocondi said:
You're kind of not helping.
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OK. I'll answer your question. I have no idea if the racquet is good for you or not because I know very little about your playing style, experience, past racquet specs, preferred string/tension, what you did or didn't like about your last racquet and generally what you are seeking in a racquet. You said you've been playing for ten years, but that honestly doesn't give a clear picture of ability. I know people who have been playing ten years who are not very good and I know people who have been playing for two years who are phenomenal.

I mean no offense by any of this, seriously, but I just don't have enough to go on. In general, it's a nice racquet and if you want eventually want to move into something heavier then it's a good platform to add lead and silicon in the future. I certainly don't think you made a bad choice.
 
beltsman

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jordocondi said:
So now apparently my Babolat had always been crap. I think I'm done here.
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You start a thread, get super-defensive over nothing, and then can't handle a little bit of banter?

I like how people assume that I'm a recreational player and have no chance on the Tour. This is great.
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Oh I'm sorry, great one! You sound like a typical safe-space millennial. Why do you assume that anyone here knows anything about you? You are incredibly defensive and you think that everything is about you. Wake up call, it's not. People might be genuinely curious to hear about your progress and the Italian tennis system if you weren't such a brat about it.

Learn to read.
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Maybe you should have learned to read the specs of the """""Roger Federer""""" racquet you bought.

But best of luck, hopefully you turn your attitude around. You'll find that this site is fun and a great resource, if you aren't so defensive.
 
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jordocondi

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beltsman said:
You start a thread, get super-defensive over nothing, and then can't handle a little bit of banter?


Oh I'm sorry, great one! You sound like a typical safe-space millennial. Why do you assume that anyone here knows anything about you? You are incredibly defensive and you think that everything is about you. Wake up call, it's not. People might be genuinely curious to hear about your progress and the Italian tennis system if you weren't such a brat about it.



Maybe you should have learned to read the specs of the """""Roger Federer""""" racquet you bought.

But best of luck, hopefully you turn your attitude around. You'll find that this site is fun and a great resource, if you aren't so defensive.
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Not my fault that some people on here immediately started assuming that I'm somehow nowhere near good enough for the ATP Pro Tour.

"You think everything is about you" Making assumptions. I came here to share my new racquet with pictures with a bit of information. That's all.

"Weren't such a brat about it" Some people here were making assumptions, claiming that they knew everything about the way the system works in Italy when I'm the one in it and they (quite obviously) aren't.

"Maybe you should've read the specs of the Federer racquet you bought" I have and I did a lot of reading. Federer uses a variation of the Wilson Pro Staff RF97 Autograph, the consumer version being an unmodded version that Wilson sells to consumers. Then there's the Pro Staff 97, 97LS, and 97ULS as well as others. I never said my racquet was the exact same.
 
macattack

macattack

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Well, I actually tried to help. But clearly you don't want to answer the relevant questions (see my post above) that could conclude us to render an opinion on whether the racquet is right for you. Good luck with everything.
 
Blitzball

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Oh what a beautiful day! You know what? I haven't visited Talk Tennis in a while! Let's see how...

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lidoazndiabloboi

lidoazndiabloboi

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I'll comment about the racket.

I personally, thought the racket is too light for me in stock form. I'm more of a RF97 player. But my training partner uses it. He tried out all three, RF97, PS97 and the PS97LS, and liked the LS the best. But since he was switching from the PS90 to the 97LS, there was a big weight difference. So I helped him customize his rackets with silicone in the handle and lead tape from one side of the grommet to the other side. The resulting weight was around 12 oz strung with a 335 SW. He's a fairly flat hitter, so the 18x16 pattern gives him that extra bit of spin compared to a 16x19. I currently string his rackets with Solinco Hyper-G 1.30 as it allows for a slight more bit of durability. He's usually breaking strings in 4-5 sessions.

He's been using the rackets for about 2 years, and his game has been as good as ever.
 
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Gabriel_Tan

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To be fair the 97LS is an ok racquet: meaning anyone can use it. Dont let that racquet stop you from becoming a better player though, as you get better you will naturally know what you want out of a racquet and by then you will have a idea what racquet you would want to upgrade to. Cheers.
 
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Brokenstrings

Brokenstrings

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jordocondi said:
You're kind of not helping. I ask for your thoughts on my racquet choice. You're now commenting on how this thread derailed, how I'm somehow not good enough for ATP when I stated I hoped to get into it, etc, etc.
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Don't worry about haters. If you're swinging the paint job modeled after the GOAT, you'll be on the tour soon... Just remember Brokenstrings and hook me up with some tickets to the open.
 
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Alex78

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Well, what do you expect from an internet forum? People will make "jokes" at other people's expenses all too quickly...
If it's any solace to you, this happens to all of us. Best thing is simply filter what's of use to you.
Still think you're in all likelihood a decent player but kinda have to admit your introduction here did provoke some of the regular posters ;)
 
PT630Wannabe

PT630Wannabe

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Alex78 said:
Well, what do you expect from an internet forum? People will make "jokes" at other people's expenses all too quickly...
If it's any solace to you, this happens to all of us. Best thing is simply filter what's of use to you.
Still think you're in all likelihood a decent player but kinda have to admit your introduction here did provoke some of the regular posters ;)
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I'm still smarting from when @Alex78 called me out for wrapping my grip the wrong way. It was that day that I realized I had a lot of growing up to do.

But remember: we are all special snowflakes.
 
Pmasterfunk

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PT630Wannabe said:
This thread is either a brilliant conceptual art piece (hence my aligning it with Johnny Groove's work on MTF) or he's a kid who has zero self-awareness. Either way, GOAT thread.
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I pop in there every few months to see how our hero is doing. It rarely disappoints.
 
QuentinFederer

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jordocondi said:
More derailing. Nice
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You're the person at fault for the derailing of this thread. Some very knowledgeable posters gave you some good advice, and all you did was disagree with them and demand to see sources. You also seemed to react very badly when it was pointed out to you that your racket has very different specs to the RF97. If you act like that then you can expect people to be amused and crack jokes.
 
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Alex78

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QuentinFederer said:
You're the person at fault for the detailing of this thread. Some very knowledgeable posters gave you some good advice, and all you did was disagree with them and demand to see sources. You also seemed to react very badly when it was pointed out to you that your racket has very different specs to the RF97. If you act like that then you can expect people to be amused and crack jokes.
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More derailing. Nice.
 
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dante.hua

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This guy made my day... ILMAO [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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PT630Wannabe

PT630Wannabe

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"The Autograph’s extra weight is in the handle, so it registers as 12 points head-light (the unit measuring weight balance). By contrast, the Pro Staff 97 is 10 points head-light. For the Pro Staff 97 LS (L stands for light, S for spin), the engineers took out the Kevlar to reduce the weight. The LS is 290 grams (10.2 ounces) unstrung, with a wider beam and a drastically different balance (6 points head-light). It also has a different string pattern, with 18 main strings and 16 crosses, and is more open than the 16-by-19 layout of the two heavier Pro Staff models."


http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/08/25/sports/tennis/stars-rackets-not-just-like-ours.html
 
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xFullCourtTenniSx

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Here's a quick way to tell if anyone (reasonably young and not a coach) is a good player or not: ask about their sponsorships.

If you've been playing since you were 8, and have played for 10 years, if you were any good, reps would've found you and offered you at least a partial sponsorship (or your coach could've contacted the reps and got them to sign you up). Yes, Wilson sponsorships are harder to land than others, but you should at least be able to land deeply discounted rackets from at least one company out there. I knew several people who were sponsored. They did very well in juniors (not insanely well, but pretty well). They still either got their rackets for free or at deep discounts. Some offered to sell us rackets at lower prices because they could get a rep to give them those rackets at those prices. I remember a guy who hadn't played in a long time came onto the courts wanting to get back into tennis. For a guy who had been out of it for years, he still had a pretty brutal return if you didn't hit a higher quality serve. And even if you hit a good serve, unless it was very well placed, it was coming back. Either a few weeks after or the next time I saw him, he had the newest BLX rackets and got them for free.

If you're good, you don't buy rackets, racket companies give them to you.
 
hoodjem

hoodjem

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jordocondi said:
Hello all,

Just passing by to share a very recent purchase I made at a store quite recently after doing a bunch of research into racquets. I decided on getting the Wilson Pro Staff 97LS, which I'm pretty sure is the same frame that Federer currently uses, but lighter (Federer's actual frame being the Pro Staff RF97 Autograph I think). I've done price checking from stores in Europe, Australia, and Malaysia whilst deciding where to buy this racquet and found the cheapest. Anyways, here it is (if anyone wants other pics I can share):

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I don't claim to be an expert with racquets but I did get the racquet strung with the polyester strings that came with the purchase, which has a tension of 55 pounds (the recommended range of the racquet was between 50-60 and I read that less tension is equal to more potential power at the expense of less control). I'm not sure if this is the best tension or not, but looking forward to trying it out.

My previous racquet was a (significantly cheaper) Babolat which cost me around 60 euro over a year ago. The strings broke on it and so in addition to getting the strings fixed I decided to go looking for a new frame, which led me to getting this racquet. My coach recommended that I get a racquet that weighs between 280-300g without the strings, and this racquet supposedly weighs 303g with strings (or around that anyway) so I think this suits.

I personally play in Italy as a member of the Federazione Italiana Tennis (FIT) which has over 500-600 registered players, and I recently started playing in tournaments so I'm only 4th category atm but I do hope to reach the ATP Tour. I'm 18 atm.

So anyways, what are all your thoughts on the racquet and stuff? Good purchase? :p
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Yes, nice purchase. Enjoy the handsome racquet.

(If you want to play tennis and enjoy it, then don't post or read replies on here.).
No pleasant, cheerful, ambitious poster goes unmolested or unsatirized or unpunished.
 
ollinger

ollinger

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jordocondi said:
Just passing by to share a very recent purchase I made at a store quite recently after doing a bunch of research into racquets. I decided on getting the Wilson Pro Staff 97LS, which I'm pretty sure is the same frame that Federer currently uses, but lighter
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yes, I understand Rog keeps a few of these lighter versions in the bag to switch to if he gets deep into a fifth set
 
hoodjem

hoodjem

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macattack said:
To be fair, several people tried to help the OP, but he wasn't having it.
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True, a few of the posts were honest and non-judgmental attempts to help.

But, alas, I think he had been stung too severely by then.




He would have been better off leaving off the penultimate paragraph:
jordocondi said:
I personally play in Italy as a member of the Federazione Italiana Tennis (FIT) which has over 500-600 registered players, and I recently started playing in tournaments so I'm only 4th category atm but I do hope to reach the ATP Tour. I'm 18 atm.
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Alex78

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Mighty generous, DanB!
I think op is located in Italy, but don't ask me which one, seems like every big city in the US has a lil' one, don't they?
 
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