Brad Gilbert : Federer's reached his highest level in 2017

Third Serve

G.O.A.T.
RF with the new racquet.
If that's the case, then we can be friends with Gilbert again.

AO to IW 2017 and the grass season of 2017 were definitely some of Fed's best performances since the racket switch, with IW standing out as possibly the best (along with other great contenders like Cincy 2015 and Shanghai 2014 if we're talking just the Djokovic match).
 
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Deleted member 771911

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Oh please not this again.
Beat Berdych who he could own on most days.
Beat coming back Nishikori in five.
Beat someone I can't remember in QF (Mischa Z?)
Beat Stan in five who he has a mental hold over
Beat Rafa at Rafa's worth slam.
It was a spectacularly entertaining and brilliant run, my favorite in fact, but he was not better than he was in his slam runs 2003-2008. Not even close.
 
he never mentions a racquet.
RF 2.0 is the generally accepted term for Federer with new racquet.

The way I am reading his tweets, BG mistook the guy's tweet to mean best post prime performance, since I have always heard him say Novak early 2016 was Novak's highest level, quite recently during the US .
 

pj80

Hall of Fame
RF 2.0 is the generally accepted term for Federer with new racquet.

The way I am reading his tweets, BG mistook the guy's tweet to mean best post prime performance, since I have always heard him say Novak early 2016 was Novak's highest level, quite recently during the US .
No, he means his highest level ever...and he's right
 

flanker2000fr

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Fed fan here, but Djokovic's level at AO 2019 and his destruction of a very good Nadal in the final is possibly the highest level I've seen anyone play in 40+ years of watching tennis. So I agree with BG on that.

Fed's level in the 1st 3 months of 2017 was extremely high, with a more attacking mindset and improved backhand. A renaissance, of sorts. But for me, what he was doing at Wimbledon between 2003 and 2007 was just magical, especially on the forehand side.
 

Nadalgaenger

G.O.A.T.
Hasn’t Fed himself suggested this?
It’s definitely not a crazy idea, just a controversial one. Fed was very dominant first half of 2017. So lucky I got to see it in person at IW that year.
 

RS

G.O.A.T.
Could make a good case it was the best Federer since 11-12 by level though. Numbers wise it’s the best since 09.
 
Fed fan here, but Djokovic's level at AO 2019 and his destruction of a very good Nadal in the final is possibly the highest level I've seen anyone play in 40+ years of watching tennis. So I agree with BG on that.

Fed's level in the 1st 3 months of 2017 was extremely high, with a more attacking mindset and improved backhand. A renaissance, of sorts. But for me, what he was doing at Wimbledon between 2003 and 2007 was just magical, especially on the forehand side.
I might agree for AO 2016 SF first two sets and Doha 2016 F.

2019 was more about Nadal imploding. Djokovic was awesome but not Force ful like 2016.

2016 was effective and Brutal.
 

Start da Game

Hall of Fame
2017 aus open fraud was a cunning and timely result of the following things,

bigger frame
settled baseline grind with lesser shanks
well rested and well prepared
striking at the right time when rafa is not fully operational into the season

but i still won't agree that it was his best........his best was clearly 2006 - 2011 to whoever followed tennis during that times........
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Fed fan here, but Djokovic's level at AO 2019 and his destruction of a very good Nadal in the final is possibly the highest level I've seen anyone play in 40+ years of watching tennis. So I agree with BG on that.

Fed's level in the 1st 3 months of 2017 was extremely high, with a more attacking mindset and improved backhand. A renaissance, of sorts. But for me, what he was doing at Wimbledon between 2003 and 2007 was just magical, especially on the forehand side.
Bolded: no.
 

ChrisRF

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Just by level of PLAY it could very well be the case. And there are too many things we don’t know. For example he deliberately missed out on the clay season (which I will NEVER understand) and he was injured at the US Open. Nobody knows how this would have gone otherwise. I wouldn’t be surprised if otherwise he wins the US Open and only loses to Nadal on clay. He indeed had his phases in 2017 where he looked just as unbeatable as let’s say in 2006.
 

aldeayeah

Legend
RF 2.0 is the generally accepted term for Federer with new racquet.

The way I am reading his tweets, BG mistook the guy's tweet to mean best post prime performance, since I have always heard him say Novak early 2016 was Novak's highest level, quite recently during the US .
I prefer to call him "oversized Fed", or for short, "overfed" :p
 
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Oceans

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IMO,
Djokovic's absolute peak: W18 - AO19 (more after USO18, potentially yet to reach his absolute peak)
Federer's absolute peak: W15 - AO16 (more before and including WTF15, 17 special as well but had lesser competition)
 
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ND-13

Hall of Fame
If he means "with the new racquet" then yeah. Otherwise no.
RF 2.0 is his nickname for Fed. If I am not mistaken he came up with that nickname in 2017 when Fed started employing the neo BH more .

He is referring to their whole career and not just since the racket switch
 

RaulRamirez

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Just at face value, Fed's determination to win AO 17 - and then doubling and tripling down to sweep the Sunshine Double - was a remarkable run. Period. Perhaps, his level at AO 17 wasn't great the whole way through, but from 1-3 down in the 5th in the final - through the final in Miami - his play was sensational.
 
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