Closest racket to prince textreme warrior 100

[tennis_uk_94]

Hi all,

I'm a long time lurker of these forums and have a question regarding rackets.

I've got 2x prince textreme warriors, which i'm really happy with however they are both pretty beaten up. I also break a tonne of strings with these rackets (research tells me this is possibly due to the 16x18 pattern?)

I would happily buy more of these frames so i can continue to use them and also to alleviate the risk of breaking two frames at the same time and being stuck without a racket, but i can't find them anywhere at all online (i'm UK based and TW don't ship them here).

I'm therefore on the hunt for the closest possible alternative so i can pick up a few of them. I gather this may well be the prince textreme tour 100p (or other racket in the tour range)

Please can anyone advise on the closest alternative? Ideally it needs to be the following:

-comfortable/arm & wrist friendly (my warrior's are comfortable, as are prince frames in general from what i gather)
-similar specs to warrior 100
-ideally still in production so i can buy a few of them
-string pattern wise, would i be better going with an 18x20 so strings would last a bit longer? (i've tried loads of different strings and i break them all, even poly)

thanks in advance!

 

[anarosevoli]

Dunlop CX 400 Tour is a very good match, just a tiny bit lower powered. It has a dense pattern for a 16/19, so strings will break later.

 

[tennis_uk_94]

Dunlop CX 400 Tour is a very good match, just a tiny bit lower powered. It has a dense pattern for a 16/19, so strings will break later.

Thanks - i'll check that out. My understanding is that 16x19 would break more quickly due to the denser pattern? Or is that not correct?

 

[SonRK]

Thanks - i'll check that out. My understanding is that 16x19 would break more quickly due to the denser pattern? Or is that not correct?

Generally speaking, yes. A denser pattern (18x20) will break less quickly than an open pattern (16x19).

anarosevoli saiid that the CX 400 Tour has a dense 16x19 pattern, meaning the center strings are closer to each other. So while it is a 16x19, the drill pattern is denser in the center than your Prince, which will result in breaking less often (and a little less power).

 

[Tennis Aloha]

I would consider the wilson Fee

Hi all,

I'm a long time lurker of these forums and have a question regarding rackets.

I've got 2x prince textreme warriors, which i'm really happy with however they are both pretty beaten up. I also break a tonne of strings with these rackets (research tells me this is possibly due to the 16x18 pattern?)

I would happily buy more of these frames so i can continue to use them and also to alleviate the risk of breaking two frames at the same time and being stuck without a racket, but i can't find them anywhere at all online (i'm UK based and TW don't ship them here).

I'm therefore on the hunt for the closest possible alternative so i can pick up a few of them. I gather this may well be the prince textreme tour 100p (or other racket in the tour range)

Please can anyone advise on the closest alternative? Ideally it needs to be the following:

-comfortable/arm & wrist friendly (my warrior's are comfortable, as are prince frames in general from what i gather)
-similar specs to warrior 100
-ideally still in production so i can buy a few of them
-string pattern wise, would i be better going with an 18x20 so strings would last a bit longer? (i've tried loads of different strings and i break them all, even poly)

thanks in advance!

I would try the Wilson Ultra series. They have different weights but the non L or UL seems to me the closest to the warrior.
i thinnk the warrior is famous for breaking string so you may not have that problem with the ultra even though it's a 16/19

 

[n8dawg6]

theres nothing out there that is exactly similar to the TT warrior. the pure aero, speed MP, and vcore 100 are somewhat similar but with different feel, comfort, grip shape, and head shape.

ive used several of the prince tour racquets (most recently the 100P) and the main difference is that they are lower-powered and a little less forgiving than the warrior.

 

[tennis_uk_94]

theres nothing out there that is exactly similar to the TT warrior. the pure aero, speed MP, and vcore 100 are somewhat similar but with different feel, comfort, grip shape, and head shape.

ive used several of the prince tour racquets (most recently the 100P) and the main difference is that they are lower-powered and a little less forgiving than the warrior.

thanks for your suggestions. i'd had a quick look at the vcore previously but reviews seem to suggest it isnt as comfortable as the warrior

 

[tennis_uk_94]

I would consider the wilson Fee



I would try the Wilson Ultra series. They have different weights but the non L or UL seems to me the closest to the warrior.
i thinnk the warrior is famous for breaking string so you may not have that problem with the ultra even though it's a 16/19

cheers, will look into this as i know nothing about them. are they considered arm friendly?

 

[Jocke]

I have only tried the older Warrior 100 (black with white inside the hoop). If my memory serves me right I would say that the Head Instinct is a pretty good match.

 

[tennis_uk_94]

I have only tried the older Warrior 100 (black with white inside the hoop). If my memory serves me right I would say that the Head Instinct is a pretty good match.

that's the ones i have currently. thanks for the suggestion - will check it out. I would really like to stick with prince if possible, just really enjoy the feel of the racket

 

[tata]

I think you should graduate to the prince textreme tour 100 310. Slightly heaver but it has received great praise and is still a Prince.

 

[tennis_uk_94]

I think you should graduate to the prince textreme tour 100 310. Slightly heaver but it has received great praise and is still a Prince.

what are the noticeable differences except the slightly increase in weight?

also, would the 290gram version be one to consider?

 

[PBODY99]

Prince Warrior 100 (300g) Racket | Tennis Warehouse Europe

www.tenniswarehouse-europe.com

Have you looked at the above ?

 

[Byon]

I think the Beast 100 is a natural descendant of the textreme warrior 100. I sold the Beast 100 and have a Warrior. As far as I remember, the Beast played a little crisper but was still comfortable. Other than that, they played similar.

 

[tata]

what are the noticeable differences except the slightly increase in weight?

also, would the 290gram version be one to consider?

I would say more stable and a heavier ball. Slightly less power and a more control. The 290 doesn't play too far off the warrior from memory but it won't be as whippy and perhaps a smidget less stable than the warrior.

 

[tennis_uk_94]

I would say more stable and a heavier ball. Slightly less power and a more control. The 290 doesn't play too far off the warrior from memory but it won't be as whippy and perhaps a smidget less stable than the warrior.

thanks. any comments on string breakage? i've read the big thread on the tt100 310 and some say it is a string eater and others say it isnt. It's the same string patter as my warrior which i'd say goes through strings fairly quickly

 

[Trip]

All depends on gauge and tension maintenance capability. The narrower the gauge and the worse the TM of the string, the faster the TT100 will eat them up. IMHO, 1.25 is the narrowest you want to go, with 1.27-1.33 being the sweet spot for a nice balance of playability and durability, and you want to use polys with better tension maintenance. Additionally, I'd err towards more elastic/gummy, versus crisp/stiff, as the frame is medium-stiff as it is. So good choices might be HG Soft, Tier One, YTEX, etc. Right now, I've got YTEX Square-X (1.25) full bed in one and a slightly more arm-friendly YTEX Quadro Twist (1.26) / Tourna Syn Gut Armor (1.27) in another and they both play awesomely. Absolutely solid stick, and with the new TT100's about to be released, you should be able to find plenty up for sale used, discounted at TW, etc.

 

[tennis_uk_94]

All depends on what gauge, material and gauge. At narrower gauges and higher tensions, yeah, it's going to eat strings for breakfast. IMHO, 1.25 is the narrowest you want to go, with 1.27-1.33 being the sweet spot for a nice balance of playability and durability. If you're going to play poly, I'd err on the side of something more elastic/gummy, versus crisp/stiff, as the frame stiffness is approaching medium-stiff as it is. Right now, I've got YTEX Square-X (1.25) full bed in one and a slightly more arm-friendly YTEX Quadro Twist (1.26) / Tourna Syn Gut Armor (1.27) in another and they both play awesomely. Absolutely solid stick, and with the new TT100's about to be released, you should be able to find plenty up for sale used, discounted at TW, etc.

thanks. i'd likely be using full bed of multi or syn gut. Would the 100p therefore not be a better option?

 

[Trip]

Not necessarily. Previous to the current poly/poly // poly/SG setups, I did Kirschbaum Syn Gut 1.35 / Tecnifibre RPX 1.35 and it was sublime -- the definition of buttery. However, spin was lower and it was control was an issue for my game. I'm sure with something like full bed RPX/Triax/HDMX, Velocity, PPC, IsoSpeed Control, etc. you could find a nice balance of softness to control. With a multi, I'd go up to 1.33 or higher for sure.

 

[tennis_uk_94]

Not necessarily. Previous to the current poly/poly // poly/SG setups, I did Kirschbaum Syn Gut 1.35 / Tecnifibre RPX 1.35 and it was sublime -- the definition of buttery. However, spin was lower and it was control was an issue for my game. I'm sure with something like full bed RPX/Triax/HDMX, Velocity, PPC, IsoSpeed Control, etc. you could find a nice balance of softness to control. With a multi, I'd go up to 1.33 or higher for sure.

Interesting. In terms of breakage though - full bed of velocity in a tt100p (18x20) would last longer than in the tt100 (16x18) right?

 

[tennis_uk_94]

I think the Beast 100 is a natural descendant of the textreme warrior 100. I sold the Beast 100 and have a Warrior. As far as I remember, the Beast played a little crisper but was still comfortable. Other than that, they played similar.

A few of the comments on this forum about the beast being less comfortable than the warrior have put me off. Thanks though.