Clemson_tennis
Legend
Wonder where Knoll will end up. Maybe sit out a year and take a job next year? Somewhere like Washington?
Coaches Hot Seat
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Will the current Washington coach no longer be the coach at that time or something?
Clemson_tennis
Legend
He's been mentioned as a hot seat candidate for a couple years now and they missed the tournament this year. If they don't make the tournament next year, they could make a move. Pure speculation btw
Maybe Nebraska, Pepperdine or SMU. He's already proven he does not need to be handed a great school or venue to win. Why does it make sense to me he would end up at a place like either SMU to stay in Texas or Nebraska to build a champion from the ground up? For an even more ridiculous super longshot guess, he takes Boland's USTA job. HAHA!
jerryjones1960
Rookie
Pepperdine already made a hire, it's like a line call, don't make that mistake
Yeah, Adam Schaechterle is the new men's coach at Pepperdine. He comes from Notre Dame where he was the associate head coach.
Mass exodus of non-revenue sports coaches and assistant coaches from Oregon in the last few weeks has raised some eyebrows.
Saw a similar exodus this year at my alma mater D2 Emporia State. Coaches moving to better paying jobs in this case. Also guessing the school wanted to save money with new coaches hired in at lower salaries.
Xmantennis
New User
Anyone know what happened to the Men's Coach at Butler? He was suspended in April and subsequently fired I guess.
jaggy
Talk Tennis Guru
No idea on the circumstances so this is conjecture, but wouldn't Oregon have a lot of Nike money?
Oregon has gobs of money in their athletic department, and good coaches are leaving all at once. Sorry, I don't buy the benign explanations. Stay tuned and we will hear more, eventually.
From a UVa message board host, after UVa hired Oregon women's golf coach and before the Oregon tennis coach left for Notre Dame:
Head Coach Mike White (9 years) - Softball (Texas)
Head Coach Ria Scott (9 years) - Women's Golf (Virginia)
Associate Head Coach Andy Powell (13 years) - Track & Field (Washington)
Assistant Coach Maurica Powell (13 years)- Track & Field (Washington)
Clemson_tennis
Legend
Wow I didn't see that White had left for Texas. He built Oregon into a softball powerhouse but there were starting to be some unhappy rumblings because the team hasn't been able to get over the hump in OKC. Maybe he left to do to Texas what he did at Oregon and doesn't have to worry about falling short in the World Series (for now)
My post was conversational. Poorly written, but conversational.
Court_Gamecocks
Rookie
who is on the hot seat these days?
Clemson_tennis
Legend
Throwback to when Roditi was once mentioned as on the hot seat in this thread
collegetennisisthebest
Semi-Pro
John Roddick at UCF ?
Husack at Alabama ?
I know that Duvenhage is retiring. Has Vandy named a replacement for him?
Golden_state_of_mind
Rookie
Time to move on for Virginia Tech and Arkansas for the men's teams.
Arkansas is in first year, they will not be changing. Look at the matches and they appear blow outs but tons of 3rd sets. Uwadia will have few more years.
Golden_state_of_mind
Rookie
My mistake. I thought they still had the long time coach.
Fabresque
Legend
This guy pops up every 3 posts, he’s seemingly “on the hot seat” at Alabama for the past 6 years yet is still employed.
collegetennisisthebest
Semi-Pro
Alabama must not care about fielding a decent team??
bobleenov1963
Hall of Fame
Alabama doesn't care because the football program is flushed with cash. It doesn't care about other athletic programs, especially tennis. It is a "nice" to have, not a "must" has.
jhick
Hall of Fame
Alabama is an odd team. They have some good wins over ranked teams but also some bad losses against unranked teams. They have played a bunch of strong teams. Inconsistent for sure.
Golden_state_of_mind
Rookie
UCLA is ok with where Billy Martin has the program now?
Not sure anyone other than the AD or assistance AD can answer that, maybe some boosters. Down year in the PAC-12, however they are 33 in the country now (not great I know) and will likely make the tournament.
Last PAC-12 team to win the title was USC in 2014 and before that USC had the other titles won by CA teams going back to 2008. UCLA last won in 2005. My guess is UCLA's expectations to win natties back in the 70"s and 80's when they were regular finalists and winners is long gone. Still a top program most years.
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bobleenov1963
Hall of Fame
The UCLA tennis program doesn't have to be good or even average, IMHO. The athletic department is already making a lot of $$$ with both the football and basketball programs so tennis is just one of the programs there to meet NCAA requirements. UCLA and USC will make even more $$$ when they move into the Big-10 after the 2023 season. It is not like UCLA is paying the tennis coach Chip Kelly's salary
Maybe maybe not. Peter Smith left USC after a healthy track record of success, still unclear exactly why. Regardless, I know of another long-time successful SEC tennis coach who took a package to retire so they could hire a new head coach at half the salary. There are other examples.The UCLA tennis program doesn't have to be good or even average, IMHO. The athletic department is already making a lot of $$$ with both the football and basketball programs so tennis is just one of the programs there to meet NCAA requirements. UCLA and USC will make even more $$$ when they move into the Big-10 after the 2023 season. It is not like UCLA is paying the tennis coach Chip Kelly's salary
Don't kid yourself, P5 tennis coaching jobs are very much subject to firings due to subpar performances or minor violations. Not saying tennis is equal to FB or BB at P5 schools, just that those AD's want to win across the board and know there's many strong candidates that would fill the position.
bobleenov1963
Hall of Fame
The most powerful person at University of Alabama is Nick Saban and NOT the university president or the AD Greg Byrne. If the Alabama tennis coach is a friend of Nick Saban and coach Saban wants him to stay at Alabama, neither the AD nor university president can do anything about it. Why? Because Saban brings in a lot of money to the university through fundraising and a winning FB program.
Likewise, if the UCLA tennis coach is a close friend of Chip Kelly, the AD has no choice but to keep him, regardless of his performances. Yes, the ADs want a winning tennis program but he/she will not risk it by pissing off Nick Saban or Chip Kelly.
Okay. Got it. The FB coaches are now the AD. Thanks
bobleenov1963
Hall of Fame
Let me ask you this question. Let say the UCLA AD Martin Jarmond and the UCLA FB coach Chip Kelly don't get along and one of them has to go. Who do think the UCLA president will get rid first, Jarmond or Kelly? Let say you have the same situation at U. of Alabama. Is the university of Alabama going to get rid of Nick Saban before the AD?
You're going into the deep end. Too many assumptions, rumor, inuendo and speculation to have an internet conversation about for me.
Regarding Sabin and Bama tennis that's all rumor and we don't know the behind the scenes.
Football coaches do have a lot of power at P5 schools, they also get fired regularly.
Clemson_tennis
Legend
Big time college coaches are professionals, they’ve all fired “buddies” on their own staff’s before. They know the AD has a job to do.
I promise you the imagined high school level drama of who likes who is not happening at major university athletics departments.
I promise you the imagined high school level drama of who likes who is not happening at major university athletics departments.
bobleenov1963
Hall of Fame
You realize that not all professional coaches are treated the same way, right? Ryan Day at Ohio State makes 9.5M/year vs. 350K/year for Ty Tucker. The university will treat Ryan Day much differently than Ty Tucker. Why? Because Ryan Day is making a lot of $$$ for the OSU vs. Ty Tucker is sucking money from the athletic department with the tennis program.
Yes it would have been nice to have a winning tennis program at OSU but that is not high on the list. Having a winning football program, beating the Wolverines, making CFB playoff and winning the college football national championship, is the most important thing at OSU.
Fabresque
Legend
You think they’re gonna fire a guy who’s been in charge for 40 years? Not happening. They might internally discuss with him if they feel like the program needs improvement, and he’s built up enough trust with them that he can give a BS answer and buy himself as much time as possible.
Also, it’s men’s tennis. It’s not a big monetary gain for them.
Golden_state_of_mind
Rookie
But UCLA likes their success in the non-revenue sports. They care more than most schools in being national title contenders in those sports.
Fabresque
Legend
Then why haven’t they fired him yet? He’s been putting up “bad” seasons for years now.
UCLA trusts him, that’s all.
Speculation I know, and as long as he's been there, I'm guessing Billy probably does more for the athletic department than just coach tennis. Like fundraising, additional work in the AD office, etc.
bobleenov1963
Hall of Fame
They can not fire him because he is a close friend with Chip Kelly.
jrtennisparent
New User
Saw this on Twitter today. Their intel is usually pretty good. No sign of Ramsay Smith on there. Surprised Udwadia is; I don't remember when he started but it doesn't seem like he's been there that long.
(last two are San Diego State Gene Carswell & Temple Univ Steve Mauro)
(last two are San Diego State Gene Carswell & Temple Univ Steve Mauro)
Have to disagree with Nebraska, Arkansas and Notre Dame, too soon. Don’t know about DePaul, OR, NM or SDSU (who hasn’t been a factor for years). More I think about it, only one is legit. Lol
collegetennisisthebest
Semi-Pro
who runs this site? Arkansas coach has not been there very long. Nebraska does not belong on the list.
tennisfan17
Professional
I know the kid that started/kinda runs the page. He gets some good information but I don't know if it's always spot on. Some of the coaches here shouldn't be in the hot seat if you ask me.
There's a guy posting on this guys threads https://www.instagram.com/adshatetennis/, his handle and critical comments make me this is might be @bobleenov1963! .
.Clemson_tennis
Legend
It looks like he is taking a page out of the “big game boomer” engagement playbook and will be posting arbitrary stuff with little to no basis for driving reaction. Like his “most hated players in the country” list recently.
to be fair, I once did the same thing in the Clemson tennis thread with my most obnoxious players in the country list lol
I noticed this same thing. Figured it was a social media engagement strategy. Since I don't try to influence I can see where it makes sense to grab views, comments etc. While I don't agree with some of the posts, if it brings attention to college tennis, maybe that's a good thing.
tennisfan17
Professional
The post do seem to try and generate "buzz" even if there isn't a lot of backing to it. It does seem to get people talking though
jcgatennismom
Hall of Fame
Isnt @parsabombs the better source at least for transfers? This guy may post more of the MM transfers, but Parsa seemed to be the first to post the big name transfers.
I do find some of his teams to watch laughable-is a team that went 4-18 last year in D1 worth keeping an eye on? Even if the team triples its wins, it would still have a losing season. Plus the team is 3rd from the bottom in its conference in current UTR Power Rankings.
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