Coric H2H against Nadal is 3-2!
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MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
He's lucky Rafa missed that putaway 
Rafa4LifeEver
G.O.A.T.
Similar to Federer's choke against Coric in Halle 2018.He's lucky Rafa missed that putaway
Borna is an opportunistic guy though, finding the rusty/bad Fedal everytime.
Purestriker
Legend
It is official, he is now the goat!
Tennfan123
Legend
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
Can’t disagree with this. Most slams is the biggest metric in the defining greatness overall.
Lauren_Girl'
Hall of Fame
Yeah, but This argument is illogical
I care about the H2H between Nadal and Djokovic but it's not a decisive argument to dissociate them and decide who is better.
Djokovic leads 30-29 but it's way too clay oriented and unbalanced. Half of these 60 matches were on clay knowing clay is hardly 25% of the whole season. It's even more unbalanced in Slams. 10 matches in Nadal's pet slam but only 2 in AO and 2 in Wimbledon...
Unless their next 20 matches happen on hard courts, it'll always be an unbalanced H2H.
H2H for me is mostly useful to decide who is favorite of a match. If a player leads 5-0, I'm never gonna bank on the other player even if he has a higher ranking.
I would never say Coric is a better player than Nadal or Vesely a better player than Djokovic. That makes no sense.
However in a Wimbledon Semifinal I prefer Djokovic to play Norrie over Vesely. Norrie is a better player than Vesely but has less chances to beat Djokovic.
That's all. For the rest, H2H are very subjective. If Djokodal play their last 2 matches on clay and the final H2H is 31-30 for Nadal, it's not gonna make any difference because of how unbalanced it is.
or at least stop winning
Impressario
Semi-Pro
Even a poor man's Djokovic (which is what Coric is) has a better H2H against Nadal
TennisLurker
Professional
Coric is the proof Djokovic is a bad match up for Nadal
AgassiSuperSlam11
Professional
All five matches played on HC with the only Bo5 played in the USO 2015 (a year Nadal lost 20 matches, but Nadal still won). Does Coric still deserve credit? Of course, he does; but we could only imagine apologists making excuses if he was only 3-2 against an opponent if all five matches were played in Clay. Even Davydenko had the advantage of an extra 3 matches played on HC. Once again, none of the matches were Bo5 HC. No player has a winning Bo5 record against Nadal (minimum 2 wins) the same can't be said about the other "Big 3." Gilles Muller is tied 2-2 Bo5 with 3 of the 4 played in Grass. However, the overall has Nadal leading 4-2. Nadal's winning percentage in Bo5 HC is nearly 10 points higher than Bo3 (85.14%).
We can go over dozens of rivalries in Tennis which were skewered toward Carpet, Grass, and HC and no complaints but only we hear "clay skewered" for conspicuous reasons. I never heard a Borg fan complain, "Borg was tied 7-7 with Mcenroe only because they never played even ONE clay match." In addition, never heard of an Evert fan complain that 50 of her 80 matches with Martina were played in Grass/Carpet. I know Tsitsipas can only wish if he played Medvedev more on clay as other players as their H2h would be very different.
We can go over dozens of rivalries in Tennis which were skewered toward Carpet, Grass, and HC and no complaints but only we hear "clay skewered" for conspicuous reasons. I never heard a Borg fan complain, "Borg was tied 7-7 with Mcenroe only because they never played even ONE clay match." In addition, never heard of an Evert fan complain that 50 of her 80 matches with Martina were played in Grass/Carpet. I know Tsitsipas can only wish if he played Medvedev more on clay as other players as their H2h would be very different.
Well according to the media and other fanbases who used slam count to denigrate Rafa until 2020 so obviously Nadal fans will now keep up that mantra.
personally i dont think in a sport like tennis or any sport with the exception of perhaps Boxing you can have a Goat as technology evolves so its impossibke to compare eras. Also Nadal and Djokovic have records the other doesnt have. They also are better than the other at half the slams. Two players who dominate in different conditions. Two legends. As was Federer before them. In the days before the dreaded internet and social media perhaps here would be more respect between fanbases. Or perhaps the media is to blame.
These players are all competing in the same ATP tour
Cheese&IPA
New User
It’s irrelevant, if they played tomorrow in a slam match on any surface Nadal would win in straight sets .
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
Hard court being a much more prominent surface than clay helps with that I reckon.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
While you have a valid point, you also help bring out another one.
You mention the 7-7 Borg v McEnroe. Notice how when these legendary rivalries are looked at, we see 7-7 Borg-McEnroe and not 3-1, and 20-14 Sampras-Agassi and not 6-3, among others....Many didn't even bring up that Edberg is 3-1 against Becker in slams, they know he was 25-10 down overall H2H.
There was also a time when 23-10 along with 16-7 that would be spoken about, and rightfully so, but then something changed around the time Doha 2016 took place, and then it was only slam matches matter, in an obvious goal post moving exercise. So you speak about why we hear about clay skew, did you ask, why did we start talking so much about slam H2H and forgot the overall H2H after Doha 2016?
kevaninho
Hall of Fame
Yeh, lets just forget that the USO exists, and is on a HC too, where theyve played 3 times .
So, really its not 10 at RG, to 4 on Djokovic's favourite arenas. Djokovic is arguably the greatest HC player ever, alot of people claim ( which i dont agree or disagree with ).
But its still a favourable surface for Djokovic and those 3 meetings must be included too.
guanzishou
G.O.A.T.
Every pro match count. No need for cherry picking just to suit your player
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
September of 2028, you mean
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