Djokovic finally getting what he deserved for a long time, after messing up 2 Masters event draw ppl are finally seeing through.

[T23]

A social pandemonium broke out before Novak Djokovic decided to withdraw from both Indian Wells and Miami, with the haters, unfortunately once again protagonists. T he recent draw of Indian Wells' ATP Master 1000 draw has reserved a great surprise for all fans, as an unexpected name has appeared: that of Novak Djokovic.

“Why are we still doing this? Novak Djokovic does not meet the guidelines required to enter the United States, so he shouldn't be in the Indian Wells draw. Or of course tennis can make something simple unnecessarily complicated," wrote one user.

The comments of two other fans against the Serbian tennis player are even harsher: "At least it got the attention it obviously craves," one user tweeted. "For all the charm of Djokovic and the way he plays, the boy just doesn't understand.

He needs to stop the drama and try to get around the rules. He doesn't help his reputation or his game to be honest. I wonder if this had an impact on his coaching breakup," wrote another. Some argue that Djokovic’s entry deprives other players of the opportunity to take part in the tournament despite the efforts made to qualify, accusing the 20 slam champion of selfishness or presumption: "As many have mentioned, Novak Djokovic pretends to be a champion for low-ranking players and fights for their interests, but he refuses to retire and thus has an impact on main draw entry lists and qualifying draws." His only interest is his own.

Tennis is losing due to a ridiculous policy!" wrote a fan. "If you could find a way to play within the rules, why not. Try all possible options and if everything is closed don't play. Simple as this. To all the trollers: he Said that he is willing to skip tournaments if he is not allowed to play if he is allowed to play why not?" tweeted another.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1501346709460291590

https://www.**************.org/tenn...-djokovic-attacked-by-haters-on-social-media/

 

[Kralingen]

So your “article” is just copying and pasting tweets from angry people on Twitter? Lol.

I don’t think all this negative attention is something he “has deserved for a long time” really. More like, he has brought it all upon himself via his response to COVID. Before 2020 I never saw anything malicious from him, a few faux pas here and there but I wouldn’t say it made any sense to hate him before then.

 

[Backspin1183]

I had also tweeted about it but nobody writes an article over it.

 

[roysid]

Much ado over nothing is my opinion.

Djokovic didnt win either IW or Miami since 2016. He didnt play half the time. Did it matter.
He won a ton of slams after that and also won cincy twice the only gaping hole in masters resume.

So what hes gonna miss by not playing these two.

 

[London007]

A social pandemonium broke out before Novak Djokovic decided to withdraw from both Indian Wells and Miami, with the haters, unfortunately once again protagonists. The recent draw of Indian Wells' ATP Master 1000 draw has reserved a great surprise for all fans, as an unexpected name has appeared: that of Novak Djokovic.

“Why are we still doing this? Novak Djokovic does not meet the guidelines required to enter the United States, so he shouldn't be in the Indian Wells draw. Or of course tennis can make something simple unnecessarily complicated," wrote one user.

The comments of two other fans against the Serbian tennis player are even harsher: "At least it got the attention it obviously craves," one user tweeted. "For all the charm of Djokovic and the way he plays, the boy just doesn't understand.

He needs to stop the drama and try to get around the rules. He doesn't help his reputation or his game to be honest. I wonder if this had an impact on his coaching breakup," wrote another. Some argue that Djokovic’s entry deprives other players of the opportunity to take part in the tournament despite the efforts made to qualify, accusing the 20 slam champion of selfishness or presumption: "As many have mentioned, Novak Djokovic pretends to be a champion for low-ranking players and fights for their interests, but he refuses to retire and thus has an impact on main draw entry lists and qualifying draws." His only interest is his own.

Tennis is losing due to a ridiculous policy!" wrote a fan. "If you could find a way to play within the rules, why not. Try all possible options and if everything is closed don't play. Simple as this. To all the trollers: he Said that he is willing to skip tournaments if he is not allowed to play if he is allowed to play why not?" tweeted another.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1501346709460291590

https://www.**************.org/tenn...-djokovic-attacked-by-haters-on-social-media/

Far bigger crime is Andy Murray being wild carded into tournaments knowing he will last a round or two, keeping his brand on court and picking up some loose change winnings.

All when there are hundreds of aspiring tennis players lined up behind him who would qualify for the tournament and with their winnings chip away at their overdraft and / or pay for next level support and development to progress their career.

DEAD MAN’S SHOES

At least Djoko legitimately qualifies and has a chance of winning something when he does.

 

[T23]

Far bigger crime is Andy Murray being wild carded into tournaments knowing he will last a round or two, keeping his brand on court and picking up some loose change winnings.

When there are hundreds of aspiring tennis players loned up behind him who would qualify fora tournament and chip away at their overdraft and / or pay for next level support development to progress their career. DEAD MAN’S SHOES

At least Djoko legitimately qualifies and has a chance of winning something when he does.

I 100% agree with the Andy Murray part, let him earn his due back. It IS a bigger crime.

 

[Checkmate]

Far bigger crime is Andy Murray being wild carded into tournaments knowing he will last a round or two, keeping his brand on court and picking up some loose change winnings.

All when there are hundreds of aspiring tennis players lined up behind him who would qualify for the tournament and with their winnings chip away at their overdraft and / or pay for next level support and development to progress their career.

DEAD MAN’S SHOES

At least Djoko legitimately qualifies and has a chance of winning something when he does.

LMAO! True.

 

[adil1972]

if you have power to move one grand slam to another city/country, which one will it be and why

also add if you want it to be indoor event or not as all 4 slams right now are outdoor events

 

[Visionary]

A social pandemonium broke out

more of a social pandemic

 

[T23]

if you have power to move one grand slam to another city/country, which one will it be and why

also add if you want it to be indoor event or not as all 4 slams right now are outdoor events

What a wonderful tennis question, I loved it - I’ll tell you what my heart says : I’ll make it high altitude event, indoor carpet. As a Rafa fan then why am I suggesting a complete non-win situation for Rafa and probably favors Fed ? Simple - I firmly believe to become an all time great you must be able to find ‘solutions’, I believe Rafa will be first to find a solution kike adding more weight to racket head or increase speed of serve or make it more flatter and increase serve volley or come up with approach shot, we just need a more ‘variety’ in slams, so that a different style of play maybe allowed to exist.

 

[darthrafa]

Much ado over nothing is my opinion.

Djokovic didnt win either IW or Miami since 2016. He didnt play half the time. Did it matter.
He won a ton of slams after that and also won cincy twice the only gaping hole in masters resume.

So what hes gonna miss by not playing these two.

probably a revenge from him
okay
u want to make me get the jab if i need to play?
no way
neither get it or withdraw until the draw can't be changed

 

[thrust]

So your “article” is just copying and pasting tweets from angry people on Twitter? Lol.

I don’t think all this negative attention is something he “has deserved for a long time” really. More like, he has brought it all upon himself via his response to COVID. Before 2020 I never saw anything malicious from him, a few faux pas here and there but I wouldn’t say it made any sense to hate him before then.

IMO, the fact that Novak was on the IW entry list is the fault of either the tournament or ATP as they knew, before the draw, that Novak was not allowed into the US. Why didn't they take him out of the entry list before the draw? I am beginning to think there is a conspiracey between the pro Fedal press and ATP to make Novak look as bad a possible and to discredit his achiements. Now they have practically proclaimed Rafa the GOAT because he has ONE more slam than Novak, whreas, Novak leads Rafa in other major catagories.

 

[vex]

Lame thread just posting Twitter comments, but it is true that Djokovic ain’t doing himself any favors

 

[intrepidish]

IMO, the fact that Novak was on the IW entry list is the fault of either the tournament or ATP as they knew, before the draw, that Novak was not allowed into the US. Why didn't they take him out of the entry list before the draw? I am beginning to think there is a conspiracey between the pro Fedal press and ATP to make Novak look as bad a possible and to discredit his achiements. Now they have practically proclaimed Rafa the GOAT because he has ONE more slam than Novak, whreas, Novak leads Rafa in other major catagories.

How many times does it have to be explained that according to the ATP rulebook, no one can remove a player from a masters entry list but the player himself?

Djokovic is entirely responsible for yet another circus.

 

[wangs78]

Tennis is losing due to a ridiculous policy!" wrote a fan. "If you could find a way to play within the rules, why not. Try all possible options and if everything is closed don't play. Simple as this. To all the trollers: he Said that he is willing to skip tournaments if he is not allowed to play if he is allowed to play why not?" tweeted another.

The response to this one is if he doesn't know if he is allowed into the country just prior to when the draw is to be finalized/released, then he should withddraw. Simple as that.

 

[weakera]

Far bigger crime is Andy Murray being wild carded into tournaments knowing he will last a round or two, keeping his brand on court and picking up some loose change winnings.

All when there are hundreds of aspiring tennis players lined up behind him who would qualify for the tournament and with their winnings chip away at their overdraft and / or pay for next level support and development to progress their career.

DEAD MAN’S SHOES

At least Djoko legitimately qualifies and has a chance of winning something when he does.

Two wrongs don't make a right but Murray definitely deserves to be called out. What he has been doing for the last few years is a joke.

 

[intrepidish]

The response to this one is if he doesn't know if he is allowed into the country just prior to when the draw is to be finalized/released, then he should withddraw. Simple as that.

Apparently Djokovic inexplicably took 'just prior' to the tournament to be literally hours before the start instead of weeks or days.

No one in the world of administrative law would reason like this nor would his legal counsel have advised him to do so as any new regulations would enter into effect days and usually weeks later rendering the point moot well before he actually withdrew.

Make of this what you will.

 

[wangs78]

Apparently Djokovic inexplicably took 'just prior' to the tournament to be literally hours before the start instead of weeks or days.

No one in the world of administrative law would reason like this nor would his legal counsel have advised him to do so as any new regulations would enter into effect days and usually weeks later rendering the point moot well before he actually withdrew.

Make of this what you will.

I fully agree. I stopped trying to understand Djokovic a long time ago (around when he held the Adria event). He's a fine player, but his off-court decisions usually make no sense at all.

 

[T23]

How many times does it have to be explained that according to the ATP rulebook, no one can remove a player from a masters entry list but the player himself?

Djokovic is entirely responsible for yet another circus.

That’s exactly the point of my post, he could have done the decent thing like Rafa - where Rafa pulled out of miami ahead of time knowing fully well what impact his entry has on the draw, djoko just saying he is on players side all these years and when it came to show - he is only on his side and that’s about it, the goid thing is the general public is starting to take notice of his fake behavior after all these years.

 

[Start da Game]

i hope they allow him for indian wells......people need to see what a fit peak nadal can do to him on a hardcourt......

 

[Born_to_slice]

i hope they allow him for indian wells......people need to see what a fit peak nadal can do to him on a hardcourt......

Yeah, and if somehow Nadal loses he'll be injured...again. Win-win

 

[ihitlikeagirl]

I think it's fairly obvious what Djokovic is doing remaining in draws that he seemingly will not be able to play: he's waiting until the last possible moment to withdraw so that behind the scenes his people are doing everything possible to either change the rules of entry into a particular tournament or hope that the laws of the country will change or allow his "exception".

When he said his comment to the effect that "he'd rather stand on his principles than get vaccinated". I think straightforward, rational people deduced that would mean he would see the light when it's not possible for him to compete in any given tournament and "stick with those principles". I think what he really means is that he will do his best to compete without compromising his principles---so it follows that he is doing everything possible behind the scenes to take advantage of loopholes and hope the tide will change or countries entry requirements will be lifted in the interim. It's tenacious and absolutely goes with his personality and mentality so it makes sense for that reason as well that he's handling it like this.

I think he got burned in Australia by speaking out before it was a sure thing and basically exposing himself as someone who exploits loopholes to game the system so that's why he was super quiet before IW. Like not a peep. If he'd have said exactly what he was doing, ie trying to use a medical loophole to get into the US or waiting it out to see if US restrictions lifted (which guaranteed is exactly what he WAS doing), he'd just be the center off controversy again without getting what he wanted (entry into the tournament) so it's the best choice to not speak up in his position until he's in--which didn't happen this time around.

I do think that country's rules of entry are going to be lifting relatively soon so in that respect he probably was onto something, just too soon. Also it makes much more sense that in a place like Europe where you have lots of countries close together and the region is built on country-hopping, that they might be more lenient than the US, Canada or Australia.

I don't agree with his stance or his using-loopholes tactics at all but if he waits it out and country & tournament entrance requirement change, then that's when he should be allowed to play again. It requires waiting it out--which he SAID he would be willing to do. so then do it and stop messing with the draws. But yeah, that's exactly what he's doing. There are probably a flurry of tennis agents, lawyers and tourney directors working furiously on his stuff alone pertaining to each potential tournament he could play.

 

[bullfan]

I think it's fairly obvious what Djokovic is doing remaining in draws that he seemingly will not be able to play: he's waiting until the last possible moment to withdraw so that behind the scenes his people are doing everything possible to either change the rules of entry into a particular tournament or hope that the laws of the country will change or allow his "exception".

When he said his comment to the effect that "he'd rather stand on his principles than get vaccinated". I think straightforward, rational people deduced that would mean he would see the light when it's not possible for him to compete in any given tournament and "stick with those principles". I think what he really means is that he will do his best to compete without compromising his principles---so it follows that he is doing everything possible behind the scenes to take advantage of loopholes and hope the tide will change or countries entry requirements will be lifted in the interim. It's tenacious and absolutely goes with his personality and mentality so it makes sense for that reason as well that he's handling it like this.

I think he got burned in Australia by speaking out before it was a sure thing and basically exposing himself as someone who exploits loopholes to game the system so that's why he was super quiet before IW. Like not a peep. If he'd have said exactly what he was doing, ie trying to use a medical loophole to get into the US or waiting it out to see if US restrictions lifted (which guaranteed is exactly what he WAS doing), he'd just be the center off controversy again without getting what he wanted (entry into the tournament) so it's the best choice to not speak up in his position until he's in--which didn't happen this time around.

I do think that country's rules of entry are going to be lifting relatively soon so in that respect he probably was onto something, just too soon. Also it makes much more sense that in a place like Europe where you have lots of countries close together and the region is built on country-hopping, that they might be more lenient than the US, Canada or Australia.

I don't agree with his stance or his using-loopholes tactics at all but if he waits it out and country & tournament entrance requirement change, then that's when he should be allowed to play again. It requires waiting it out--which he SAID he would be willing to do. so then do it and stop messing with the draws. But yeah, that's exactly what he's doing. There are probably a flurry of tennis agents, lawyers and tourney directors working furiously on his stuff alone pertaining to each potential tournament he could play.

That is so generous to Novak….. not buying it for a second. He is super selfish, and there was no sign USA was going to change their stance. He also disingenuously did all his public events after getting covid. Total jerk. He hasn’t learned anything from the fiasco that was Adria tour including disco dancing… GMAFB

 

[Visionary]

I think it's fairly obvious what Djokovic is doing remaining in draws that he seemingly will not be able to play: he's waiting until the last possible moment to withdraw so that behind the scenes his people are doing everything possible to either change the rules of entry into a particular tournament or hope that the laws of the country will change or allow his "exception".

When he said his comment to the effect that "he'd rather stand on his principles than get vaccinated". I think straightforward, rational people deduced that would mean he would see the light when it's not possible for him to compete in any given tournament and "stick with those principles". I think what he really means is that he will do his best to compete without compromising his principles---so it follows that he is doing everything possible behind the scenes to take advantage of loopholes and hope the tide will change or countries entry requirements will be lifted in the interim. It's tenacious and absolutely goes with his personality and mentality so it makes sense for that reason as well that he's handling it like this.

I think he got burned in Australia by speaking out before it was a sure thing and basically exposing himself as someone who exploits loopholes to game the system so that's why he was super quiet before IW. Like not a peep. If he'd have said exactly what he was doing, ie trying to use a medical loophole to get into the US or waiting it out to see if US restrictions lifted (which guaranteed is exactly what he WAS doing), he'd just be the center off controversy again without getting what he wanted (entry into the tournament) so it's the best choice to not speak up in his position until he's in--which didn't happen this time around.

I do think that country's rules of entry are going to be lifting relatively soon so in that respect he probably was onto something, just too soon. Also it makes much more sense that in a place like Europe where you have lots of countries close together and the region is built on country-hopping, that they might be more lenient than the US, Canada or Australia.

I don't agree with his stance or his using-loopholes tactics at all but if he waits it out and country & tournament entrance requirement change, then that's when he should be allowed to play again. It requires waiting it out--which he SAID he would be willing to do. so then do it and stop messing with the draws. But yeah, that's exactly what he's doing. There are probably a flurry of tennis agents, lawyers and tourney directors working furiously on his stuff alone pertaining to each potential tournament he could play.

Right on with just about everything in and that regardless my personal disagreement with your last paragraph. We need more objective and complete posters like you on TTW. Thank you!

 

[Russeljones]

Is this Google Translate?

 

[ihitlikeagirl]

Right on with just about everything in and that regardless my personal disagreement with your last paragraph. We need more objective and complete posters like you on TTW. Thank you!

Well I try to be objective enough to logically look at the situation...no matter my feelings. It's easy to see what he's doing. Even if I don't agree with it at all (isn't that part obvious? lol).

Lol it's nice when people "play by rules of some sort of fairness" right? Djokovic should try it.

From a subjective point of view, he's using every (financial and overall status influence) he has while claiming to stand for unwavering principles. Being that he's pushing the envelope with the way he's timing it and it affects other players, IMO he's taking it too far. (IMO he always takes things too far--apart from winning, but one might ask is winning at all costs really winning?? but i digress). I just think saying that he's sticking to "his principles" while doing unprincipled things behind the scenes is not really that morally impressive. Another reason why he's a very complicated person/player and I don't admire him much. That said, he and his whole enterprise is like a $100 million business with his core team affected by him being able to play or not and like any athlete their careers are finite sooooooo I can see why he'd mind bend on what is morally ok etc. He probably believes it's justifiable even though it's not IMO (and many others) and also not cool to do to your fellow players when you purport to support them and want to start this other union (LOL he'd be a joke at that). Ok, you might not have wanted it but that's my editorializing on the subject.

 

[MotoboXer]

Such lack of love
Damn conspiracy

 

[King No1e]

So your “article” is just copying and pasting tweets from angry people on Twitter? Lol.

I don’t think all this negative attention is something he “has deserved for a long time” really. More like, he has brought it all upon himself via his response to COVID. Before 2020 I never saw anything malicious from him, a few faux pas here and there but I wouldn’t say it made any sense to hate him before then.

How dare you not be outraged? You're an apologist for the no-good very-bad war criminal! Denounce him right now and send him death threats on Instagram, otherwise you're cancelled.

 

[MotoboXer]

His team found and exploited all the many loopholes in drug testing.
Why wouldnt they try the same with something else you put in your
body, like a vax for instance?
Only now its a substance that should be found in his system instead
of something that shouldnt be ..

 

[brc444]

Change the ATP rules then

 

[TheNachoMan]

I thought he got the death penalty. Seems to be what many here would consider justice.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

I thought he got the death penalty. Seems to be what many here would consider justice.

 

[UnderratedSlam]

So your “article” is just copying and pasting tweets from angry people on Twitter? Lol.

I don’t think all this negative attention is something he “has deserved for a long time” really. More like, he has brought it all upon himself via his response to COVID. Before 2020 I never saw anything malicious from him, a few faux pas here and there but I wouldn’t say it made any sense to hate him before then.

He is in a state of fast decay.

Intellectually, I mean.

 

[Visionary]

Well I try to be objective enough to logically look at the situation...no matter my feelings. It's easy to see what he's doing. Even if I don't agree with it at all (isn't that part obvious? lol).

Lol it's nice when people "play by rules of some sort of fairness" right? Djokovic should try it.

From a subjective point of view, he's using every (financial and overall status influence) he has while claiming to stand for unwavering principles. Being that he's pushing the envelope with the way he's timing it and it affects other players, IMO he's taking it too far. (IMO he always takes things too far--apart from winning, but one might ask is winning at all costs really winning?? but i digress). I just think saying that he's sticking to "his principles" while doing unprincipled things behind the scenes is not really that morally impressive. Another reason why he's a very complicated person/player and I don't admire him much. That said, he and his whole enterprise is like a $100 million business with his core team affected by him being able to play or not and like any athlete their careers are finite sooooooo I can see why he'd mind bend on what is morally ok etc. He probably believes it's justifiable even though it's not IMO (and many others) and also not cool to do to your fellow players when you purport to support them and want to start this other union (LOL he'd be a joke at that). Ok, you might not have wanted it but that's my editorializing on the subject.

The availability of funds in Novak's camp has surely played a role in his drive to confront the system. Had he been an unestablished player, Djoker would've more likely opted for the vaccination. I work in an international school environment but have not been mandated to vaccinate at all. If I were though, I'd have to think twice not to get jabbed for my livelihood. Our choices may be related to our financial situations.

Having said that, the Serb's making a statement for all the ones who can and/or cannot make their choices such as him. This truly is about the principles and the freedom of choice that we all should have. Whether he is morally sound or not is open to translation as ethics vary from culture to culture and expectations from different social groups may not well bode too. I think that way too many powerful people are scared of a true freedom of choice.

The decision to mandate vaccinations, in my view, is based on false pretenses and flawed studies and then hyped by the media to scare the population. The bias of powers that've been incompetent in search for answers to where the virus came from ought to be greatly concerning; the statistical inaccuracies in how the virus has affected us in individual regions and as a whole should be worrying as well. Guiding us to wear masks and then not to wear masks because we are vaccinated is just unprofessional and suggestive that we all should get that Pfizer, Moderna or J&J. If vaccinated get sick and spread the virus too, Indian Wells authorites are misled (probably by the CDC).

I believe that Novak's doing something for freedom of choice and I dare to say for the other athletes who have not been well off to confront the powers. Yet, I am respectul to the ones who vaccinate and go on with their lives getting their regular boosters then. It's their choice with their health/lives. I bet that Djoker respects their rights too. Whether we all meet half way or not on this issue remains to be seen. Perhaps, there's no "half way" for you are either this or that in this case. I just wish we found the source of this virus and further carried an honest assessment how to proceed and follow without repercussions.

 

[darthrafa]

The availability of funds in Novak's camp has surely played a role in his drive to confront the system. Had he been an unestablished player, Djoker would've more likely opted for the vaccination. I work in an international school environment but have not been mandated to vaccinate at all. If I were though, I'd have to think twice not to get jabbed for my livelihood. Our choices may be related to our financial situations.

Having said that, the Serb's making a statement for all the ones who can and/or cannot make their choices such as him. This truly is about the principles and the freedom of choice that we all should have. Whether he is morally sound or not is open to translation as ethics vary from culture to culture and expectations from different social groups may not well bode too. I think that way too many powerful people are scared of a true freedom of choice.

The decision to mandate vaccinations, in my view, is based on false pretenses and flawed studies and then hyped by the media to scare the population. The bias of powers that've been incompetent in search for answers to where the virus came from ought to be greatly concerning; the statistical inaccuracies in how the virus has affected us in individual regions and as a whole should be worrying as well. Guiding us to wear masks and then not to wear masks because we are vaccinated is just unprofessional and suggestive that we all should get that Pfizer, Moderna or J&J. If vaccinated get sick and spread the virus too, Indian Wells authorites are misled (probably by the CDC).

I believe that Novak's doing something for freedom of choice and I dare to say for the other athletes who have not been well off to confront the powers. Yet, I am respectul to the ones who vaccinate and go on with their lives getting their regular boosters then. It's their choice with their health/lives. I bet that Djoker respects their rights too. Whether we all meet half way or not on this issue remains to be seen. Perhaps, there's no "half way" for you are either this or that in this case. I just wish we found the source of this virus and further carried an honest assessment how to proceed and follow without repercussions.

freedom is not u can do anything u want to do
at least djoker has many other choices if he does not wish to get the jab
if he can be regared as one without choice, 99% of the world are slave

 

[Visionary]

freedom is not u can do anything u want to do
at least djoker has many other choices if he does not wish to get the jab
if he can be regared as one without choice, 99% of the world are slave

Do you really think that this is about "freedom is not u can do anything u want to do"?

 

[darthrafa]

Do you really think that this is about "freedom is not u can do anything u want to do"?

dont understand your question but please dont cherry picking my words
after all, it is rubbish to say djoker does not have choice/options

 

[Visionary]

dont understand your question but please dont cherry picking my words
after all, it is rubbish to say djoker does not have choice/options

Djoker's choices are; jab and play or don't jab and don't play.

freedom is not u can do anything u want to do

So, do you really think that this is about "freedom is not u can do anything u want to do"?

 

[darthrafa]

Djoker's choices are; jab and play or don't jab and don't play. So, do you really think that this is about "freedom is not u can do anything u want to do"?

of course freedom is not u can do anything u want to do.
if u think djoker should be allowed to choose getting the jab or not and he must be allowed to play, why other countries cannot have the choice to choose which kind of persons can enter THEIR country? according to your logic, why visa system should not be abolished? djoker does not have any divine right to play

u like it or not, just like tax level, why citizen do not have the choice to choose paying how much?
your repeat of asking questions does not provide any answer and grounds

 

[Visionary]

why other countries cannot have the choice to choose which kind of persons can enter THEIR country?

Do you think that all countries are now having the same choice as the US, or Australia for that matter?

according to your logic, why visa system should not be abolished?

Not "my logic" that the visa system should/shouldn't be abolished but not linked to the mandatory vaccination.

ur vritin is so interestin n very logic but ur repeat sayin that u dont anderstan when u anderstan is bad
Peace

 

[MrFlip]

How about those 2 children under 15yrs who sleepded after the shots.

Those kids finally got what they deserved too after being told its safe and effective!

 

[darthrafa]

Do you think that all countries are now having the same choice as the US, or Australia for that matter?
Not "my logic" that the visa system should/shouldn't be abolished but not linked to the mandatory vaccination.

ur vritin is so interestin n very logic but ur repeat sayin that u dont anderstan when u anderstan is bad
Peace

u r talking abt djoker is unfairly treated by us and aus.
what is the point of dragging other countries into it?

of course it is not "YOUR logic" that the visa system should/shouldn't be abolished but not linked to the mandatory vaccination
however, it just shows u r cherry picking
visa is for one country to select who can or cannot enter their country, so unless u think a country has to allow everyone enter, show me your reason why a country cannot have "choice/option" to reject djoker
please also dont just post meaningless questions
show me your logic and reasons

 

[Visionary]

u r talking abt djoker is unfairly treated by us and aus.
what is the point of dragging other countries into it?

adre cantries? ya no pont tolkin. urrigt.

of course it is not "YOUR logic" that the visa system should/shouldn't be abolished but not linked to the mandatory vaccination
however, it just shows u r cherry picking

ohh, so glat ugree on the visa argumnt. but i don pick chery i brakeem.

please also dont just post meaningless questions
show me your logic and reasons

no more meaningless. logic better. urrite.

 

[darthrafa]

adre cantries? ya no pont tolkin. urrigt.ohh, so glat ugree on the visa argumnt. but i don pick chery i brakeem.
no more meaningless. logic better. urrite.

what a childish coward