Djokovic has now 7 wins against each of the nextgen superstars

[pj80]

Thiem 7-5
Medvedev 7-4
Zverev 7-4
Tsitsipas 7-2

*also is 7-0 vs Shapo (last 6 sets he won with a 7 score)

 

[DSH]

Why did Medvedev retire?

 

[socallefty]

What is Nadal’s record against these players?

 

[pj80]

Why did Medvedev retire?

Medvedev: 'I Felt A Strange Pop In My Adductor'

 

[pj80]

What is Nadal’s record against these players?

7-2 vs Tsitsipas (same as Djo)
7-3 vs Zverev
5-1 vs Med
9-6 vs Thiem

4-2 vs Shapo

 

[Bambooman]

Medvedev: 'I Felt A Strange Pop In My Adductor'

Adductor or abductor?

 

[pj80]

Adductor or abductor?

Adductor

 

[CHillTennis]

Thiem is not considered to be Next Gen.

 

[Backspin1183]

Alcaraz?

 

[dadadas]

nextgen superstars? lol most people dont even know their names.

 

[Tennfan123]

Thiem is not next gen but good try.

 

[Booger]

Those 4 "superstars" would be fringe level tour players in any other era, grinding out challengers and qualies to break into the main draw.

 

[socallefty]

Adductor

Am I the only one who thought it strange that Medvedev told Novak when he shook his hand that he strained his adductor muscle as Djokovic mentioned it in his on-court interview? Do tennis players really know anatomy terms so precisely about the differences between adductor and abductor muscles? Wouldn’t it be more common to just say thigh muscle? Seemed a bit rehearsed.

I wonder if the fix was in and Medvedev just made some money for some oligarch or Russian syndicate? He didn’t run for two shots that much at 2-1,3-1 in the TB, tried to shorten the next three points, but then played some long points and ran well without any noticeable wincing or limping? Most people watching could not figure out he was injured at all. Very weird??

 

[pj80]

Am I the only one who thought it strange that Medvedev told Novak when he shook his hand that he strained his adductor muscle as Djokovic mentioned it in his on-court interview? Do tennis players really know anatomy terms so precisely about the differences between adductor and abductor muscles? Wouldn’t it be more common to just say thigh muscle?

I wonder if the fix was in and Medvedev just made some money for some oligarch or Russian syndicate? He didn’t run for two shots that much at 2-1,3-1 in the TB, tried to shorten the next three points, but then played some long points and ran well without any noticeable wincing or limping? Most people watching could not figure out he was injured at all. Very weird??

they deal with muscle groups on regular basis...so no surprise they know terms by now

 

[socallefty]

Thiem is not next gen but good try.

I was also thinking that Djokovic is 21-10 vs the Little 3 while Nadal has a much better record at 19-6. Nadal struggles a lot less against them even though many fans talk like his body is falling apart completely while Djokovic is in prime physical shape.

 

[Bambooman]

Am I the only one who thought it strange that Medvedev told Novak when he shook his hand that he strained his adductor muscle as Djokovic mentioned it in his on-court interview? Do tennis players really know anatomy terms so precisely about the differences between adductor and abductor muscles? Wouldn’t it be more common to just say thigh muscle? Seemed a bit rehearsed.

I wonder if the fix was in and Medvedev just made some money for some oligarch or Russian syndicate? He didn’t run for two shots that much at 2-1,3-1 in the TB, tried to shorten the next three points, but then played some long points and ran well without any noticeable wincing or limping? Most people watching could not figure out he was injured at all. Very weird??

Surely they would have a vague idea of muscle names.

 

[socallefty]

Surely they would have a vague idea of muscle names.

Maybe - it just looked very odd when you watched the match. I watched the TB twice now afterwards and the way he runs (slow or no effort on some points, no effect from injury on other points later) is very weird especially as there was no visible or audible signs of an injury on any point. Djokovic seemed totally shocked too when Medvedev stopped and shook his hands.

 

[NoleFam]

I was also thinking that Djokovic is 21-13 vs the Little 3 while Nadal has a much better record at 19-6. Nadal struggles a lot less against them even though many fans talk like his body is falling apart completely while Djokovic is in prime physical,shape.

21-10 isn't it? I think they both struggle against them but Nadal has really escaped some matches against those 3. He seems to win the ones that go down to the wire. At least 2 against Tsitsipas, that 1st match against Zverev in 2016 IW where I think he had match point, and at least two against Medvedev including that epic 5-1 choke from Medvedev. There was also one in Rome against Zverev that he won where he was helped by the rain delay because of how the match was unfolding.

 

[Bambooman]

Maybe - it just looked very odd when you watched the match. I watched the TB twice now afterwards and the way he runs (slow or no effort on some points, no effect from injury on other points later) is very weird especially as there was no visible or audible signs of an injury on any point. Djokovic seemed totally shocked too when Medvedev stopped and shook his hands.

Injuries are not always so apparent.

Regarding the body parts., when you get worked over by a physio daily for 15 years you're going to absorb terminology just like a foreign language.

 

[socallefty]

21-10 isn't it?

Yes, I made an error.

 

[Fabresque]

I didn’t know he was that dominant over Stef. Thought it was closer, like 6-3.

 

[pj80]

21-10 isn't it? I think they both struggle against them but Nadal has really escaped some matches against those 3. He seems to win the ones that go down to the wire. At least 2 against Tsitsipas, that 1st match against Zverev in 2016 IW where I think he had match point, and at least two against Medvedev including that epic 5-1 choke from Medvedev. There was also one in Rome against Zverev that he won where he was helped by the rain delay because of how the match was unfolding.

also clay skew...Zverev owns Rafa on HC almost like Djo in the last few outings

 

[Sampras-Bruguera 1993]

Thiem 7-5
Medvedev 7-4
Zverev 7-4
Tsitsipas 7-2

*also is 7-0 vs Shapo (last 6 sets he won with a 7 score)

And hes what a decade older than those guys? LOL

 

[NoleFam]

also clay skew...Zverev owns Rafa on HC almost like Djo in the last few outings

Well good point about Zverev vs Nadal because most of their matches have been on clay, 6/10, while Djokovic has played Zverev on his best surface, hardcourt, in 9/11 matches. Even so, Zverev has still taken it to Nadal on clay.

 

[D.Nalby12]

Superstars? More like BumStars.

 

[Sudacafan]

Djokovic is better than all the next gens combined.

 

[Dead Mosquito]

also clay skew...Zverev owns Rafa on HC almost like Djo in the last few outings

How does Zve own Rafa on HC? They are 2-2.Med owns Djo on clay. Nadal has never faced Med on his favourite surface still leading 4-1

 

[fafa]

21-10 isn't it? I think they both struggle against them but Nadal has really escaped some matches against those 3. He seems to win the ones that go down to the wire. At least 2 against Tsitsipas, that 1st match against Zverev in 2016 IW where I think he had match point, and at least two against Medvedev including that epic 5-1 choke from Medvedev. There was also one in Rome against Zverev that he won where he was helped by the rain delay because of how the match was unfolding.

He also saved match points last year against Shapovalov in Rome.

 

[fafa]

How does Zve own Rafa on HC? They are 2-2.Med owns Djo on clay. Nadal has never faced Med on his favourite surface still leading 4-1

They played just once