Djokovic's will play '24 Wimbledon for sure

mahatma

Hall of Fame
The clue is in the statement he made today -
" Now that we are at 80 (wins), let's take it to 100".
If he wins this Wimbledon, he is still left with 14 more match wins - a perfect ending can happen in '24 with if he wins this Wimbledon, next one and finally the last one in '24. That takes us to 23 slams, 9 Wimbledon, 100 Wimbledon match wins. A dream ending awaits....
 

ibbi

G.O.A.T.
The clue is in the statement he made today -
" Now that we are at 80 (wins), let's take it to 100".
If he wins this Wimbledon, he is still left with 14 more match wins - a perfect ending can happen in '24 with if he wins this Wimbledon, next one and finally the last one in '24. That takes us to 23 slams, 9 Wimbledon, 100 Wimbledon match wins. A dream ending awaits....
Easy-peasy.
 

mahatma

Hall of Fame
Thats about 6 years from now. About 24 more slam opportunities. The guy will shatter all the records by the time he hangs up his boots.
 

Marco Rotim

Semi-Pro
The clue is in the statement he made today -
" Now that we are at 80 (wins), let's take it to 100".
If he wins this Wimbledon, he is still left with 14 more match wins - a perfect ending can happen in '24 with if he wins this Wimbledon, next one and finally the last one in '24. That takes us to 23 slams, 9 Wimbledon, 100 Wimbledon match wins. A dream ending awaits....

Is it that easy to win the next 3 wimbledons ? You make it sound as if winning wimbledon is as easy as winning a small ATP 250, lol

There is no guarantee than Novak will win this year, let alone next year and after that, he will be a contender though for the next 4 or 5 years here. Not sure how much he will win.

Your prediction? @Hitman How many Wimbies for Novak by the end of his career ?
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
Is it that easy to win the next 3 wimbledons ? You make it sound as if winning wimbledon is as easy as winning a small ATP 250, lol

There is no guarantee than Novak will win this year, let alone next year and after that, he will be a contender though for the next 4 or 5 years here. Not sure how much he will win.

Your prediction? @Hitman How many Wimbies for Novak by the end of his career ?

I think he has at least five more years being a contender for Wimbledon, it's just that he will slip for being the favorite, which he is currently to being in the top four or top five in coming years. He can potentially win 1-2 more titles at Wimbledon, anything more is going to really require incredible fortune on his side.

He might just equal Federer, but I do think he will equal Sampras.
 
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Deleted member 629564

Guest
The clue is in the statement he made today -
" Now that we are at 80 (wins), let's take it to 100".
If he wins this Wimbledon, he is still left with 14 more match wins - a perfect ending can happen in '24 with if he wins this Wimbledon, next one and finally the last one in '24. That takes us to 23 slams, 9 Wimbledon, 100 Wimbledon match wins. A dream ending awaits....
It could be understood he was referring to '100 in all slams' record.
That means he sees an opportunity to have 100+ wins at every Slam tournament.

At this moment:
AO 82
RG 85
WIM 80
USO 81


He needs some more deep runs at each of them.
AO (18 to win, 3 finals) 2023-2025
RG (15 to win, 3 deep runs) 2023-2025
WIM (20 to win, 3-4 deep runs) 2022-2025
USO (19 to win, 4 deep runs) 2023-2026
 

Marco Rotim

Semi-Pro
I think he has at least five more years being a contender for Wimbledon, it's just that he will slip for being the favorite, which he is currently to being in the top four or top five in coming years. He can potentially win 1-2 more titles at Wimbledon, anything more is going to really require incredible fortune on his side.

He might just equal Federer, but I do think he will equal Sampras.

I believe the same, 2 more Wimbies would be good. 8 is a good number. 9 is over ambitious, beyond reach.

Novak's focus should be to enter Australia again, the way he cannot play HCs is a shame since thats his best surface.

Losing this year's French match to Nadal was also a big blow, missed out on getting the TCGS, not sure he can win french next year even if Nadal flops, little man Carlito won't allow.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
If the Serb loses at Wimbledon...

















...his dream will turn into a nightmare.
:eek:

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Hitman

Bionic Poster
I believe the same, 2 more Wimbies would be good. 8 is a good number. 9 is over ambitious, beyond reach.

Novak's focus should be to enter Australia again, the way he cannot play HCs is a shame since thats his best surface.

Losing this year's French match to Nadal was also a big blow, missed out on getting the TCGS, not sure he can win french next year even if Nadal flops, little man Carlito won't allow.

Honestly, everything he does at RG is gravy for me now. After doing what he did last year, I was fully satisified, it was a heroic run. He doesn't really need another RG, he has nothing to prove there now, he won it multiple times and is only guy to beat Nadal multiple times there also, no one can say that.

Australia, yes, hopefully he can play again, I think he can certainly win more AO titles, 1-2 titles is still possible.

Max W titles will be 8, but realistically 7 is reachable. 9 is out of reach now after missing out on playing in 2020.
 

Marco Rotim

Semi-Pro
Honestly, everything he does at RG is gravy for me now. After doing what he did last year, I was fully satisified, it was a heroic run. He doesn't really need another RG, he has nothing to prove there now, he won it multiple times and is only guy to beat Nadal multiple times there also, no one can say that.

Australia, yes, hopefully he can play again, I think he can certainly win more AO titles, 1-2 titles is still possible.

Max W titles will be 8, but realistically 7 is reachable. 9 is out of reach now after missing out on playing in 2020.

From his statement today on targeting 100 each, it is certain he will play for 4-5 years ahead, very interesting times ahead, Nadal isn't going anywhere either, we are in for a dogfight between the 2 and the next gen will have the final say on their fortunes.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
From his statement today on targeting 100 each, it is certain he will play for 4-5 years ahead, very interesting times ahead, Nadal isn't going anywhere either, we are in for a dogfight between the 2 and the next gen will have the final say on their fortunes.

Yes. I kept saying Djokovic is going no where for many years yet. Nadal has at least 2 more seasons in him too.
 

vamos22

Rookie
The clue is in the statement he made today -
" Now that we are at 80 (wins), let's take it to 100".
If he wins this Wimbledon, he is still left with 14 more match wins - a perfect ending can happen in '24 with if he wins this Wimbledon, next one and finally the last one in '24. That takes us to 23 slams, 9 Wimbledon, 100 Wimbledon match wins. A dream ending awaits....
For Serbia

a nightmare for the rest of tennis world
 

L4S10s

Professional
Next-gen and Alcaraz-gen really getting sandwiched into obscurity between Djokodal-gen and Stefan-gen
 
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Deleted member 762343

Guest
Honestly, everything he does at RG is gravy for me now. After doing what he did last year, I was fully satisified, it was a heroic run. He doesn't really need another RG, he has nothing to prove there now, he won it multiple times and is only guy to beat Nadal multiple times there also, no one can say that.

Australia, yes, hopefully he can play again, I think he can certainly win more AO titles, 1-2 titles is still possible.

Max W titles will be 8, but realistically 7 is reachable. 9 is out of reach now after missing out on playing in 2020.

No, I need a third title. Just one more and I won't care what happens at RG after that.

Desperate!

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Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
Is it that easy to win the next 3 wimbledons ? You make it sound as if winning wimbledon is as easy as winning a small ATP 250, lol

There is no guarantee than Novak will win this year, let alone next year and after that, he will be a contender though for the next 4 or 5 years here. Not sure how much he will win.

Your prediction? @Hitman How many Wimbies for Novak by the end of his career ?

Just based on this year and the last few...doesn't look like anyone will be challenging Rafa or Novavax in Slam finals anytime soon. If Novak isn't permanently damaged from COVID, he can win 5-10 more Slams. And Rafa can win 5-10 more RGs alone, not even counting the other Slams
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
Any of you concerned that if unvaccinated, he might catch COVID many times, have longer fatigue symptoms that affect his career longevity? If he is constantly having to take breaks from tour at his age, it is hard to build up to good form for the Slams. It seemed like his illness in the Spring affected his clay season. He seemed to have COVID rage in 2020 which led to his default at the USO. Not to mention that he might not even be able to travel to a few countries that hold major tournaments and Slams for a while.

Who knows what is in store? He has a job that involves a lot of travel and increases the chance of catching infections.
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
Just based on this year and the last few...doesn't look like anyone will be challenging Rafa or Novavax in Slam finals anytime soon. If Novak isn't permanently damaged from COVID, he can win 5-10 more Slams. And Rafa can win 5-10 more RGs alone, not even counting the other Slams
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Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
The only reason Djokovic and Nadal are still enjoying the spotlight in the Slams is because Zverev is a mental midget.
Game-wise, he can smash both of these guys off the court.
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
He'll break the record. 10 Wimbledons final count. I mean hes 6 years younger than Fed. Thats alot of time to win more titles
He's not going to win much more. Once Medvedev and Zverev and Tsitsipas are playing at their highest level, and once Alcaraz starts to hit prime, it will be the end of Djokovic.
 

Martin J

Hall of Fame
You disagree?

Someone has to win those Slams. And no one else seems to be capable right now.

Alcaraz is the only guy outside the Big 2 who looks capable of winning Slams. And he's very much not ready. Probably won't be for a season or two.
Someone like Medvedev could win a HC Slam, here and there, but that's basically it. Alcaraz seems to be the only one with a true potential to disrupt the Nadal-Djoko hegemony.
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
You disagree?

Someone has to win those Slams. And no one else seems to be capable right now.

Alcaraz is the only guy outside the Big 2 who looks capable of winning Slams. And he's very much not ready. Probably won't be for a season or two.
Djokovic has been very lucky that Zverev hasn't been playing to his potential. I feel once Z is back and in full force and once Med, Tsitsipas and Alcaraz start to hit prime level in terms of consistency in the majors, it's going to be over for Djokovic. I see it in the next year or so. Nadal will still have RG on lock for another year possibly. But even he is looking very shaky there.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
Someone like Medvedev could win a HC Slam, here and there, but that's basically it. Alcaraz seems to be the only one with a true potential to disrupt the Nadal-Djoko hegemony.

It's just your imagination...there's more to this current group than Alcaraz.
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
Someone like Medvedev could win a HC Slam, here and there, but that's basically it. Alcaraz seems to be the only one with a true potential to disrupt the Nadal-Djoko hegemony.
The thing that nobody is pointing out is that Djokovic might need to play 2 of the new gen back to back. That's a tough task for him. To beat Zverev and Medvedev is very tough on hards in majors. Then factor in other strong players like Alcaraz and FAA. I don't see anything getting easy for the big 2.
 

Martin J

Hall of Fame
It's just your imagination...there's more to this current group than Alcaraz.
And what's your imagination telling you, who may that be? And more importantly, you're basing your claim on what exactly? Because I don't remember seeing any of them achieving anything remotely close to what Alcaraz did this year, and he's yet to prove himself in majors.
 

Marco Rotim

Semi-Pro
Any of you concerned that if unvaccinated, he might catch COVID many times, have longer fatigue symptoms that affect his career longevity? If he is constantly having to take breaks from tour at his age, it is hard to build up to good form for the Slams. It seemed like his illness in the Spring affected his clay season. He seemed to have COVID rage in 2020 which led to his default at the USO. Not to mention that he might not even be able to travel to a few countries that hold major tournaments and Slams for a while.

Who knows what is in store? He has a job that involves a lot of travel and increases the chance of catching infections.

He certainly looks tired this year compared to last year, even today he was looking tired in the first 3 sets, while speaking after the match he was again taking breaks. Whats going on with him?
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
He certainly looks tired this year compared to last year, even today he was looking tired in the first 3 sets, while speaking after the match he was again taking breaks. Whats going on with him?
He was sick in March or April according to his camp. Even if it was COVID, he probably won’t admit it in public due to his vaccination stance.

Apart from the Rome title, he has looked gassed in many matches and was semi-tanking the last set in almost all his losses. I don’t think his physical condition warrants him being the overwhelming favorite that he usually is at Wimbledon.
 

Marco Rotim

Semi-Pro
The thing that nobody is pointing out is that Djokovic might need to play 2 of the new gen back to back. That's a tough task for him. To beat Zverev and Medvedev is very tough on hards in majors. Then factor in other strong players like Alcaraz and FAA. I don't see anything getting easy for the big 2.

Nadal and Djokovic might be the 2 greatest tennis players ever to step foot on earth as pointed by @socallefty in another post some time back.

These guys are beating guys 11-15 years younger, Alcaraz is 16 years younger to Nole, FAA is 14 years younger to Nadal, Unreal stuff.
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
Nadal and Djokovic might be the 2 greatest tennis players ever to step foot on earth as pointed by @socallefty in another post some time back.

These guys are beating guys 11-15 years younger, Alcaraz is 16 years younger to Nole, FAA is 14 years younger to Nadal, Unreal stuff.
Sure but in 2-3 years, both Alcaraz and FAA are going to be feasting on Grandpa Rafa routinely and consistently.
 

Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic has been very lucky that Zverev hasn't been playing to his potential. I feel once Z is back and in full force and once Med, Tsitsipas and Alcaraz start to hit prime level in terms of consistency in the majors, it's going to be over for Djokovic. I see it in the next year or so. Nadal will still have RG on lock for another year possibly. But even he is looking very shaky there.

Counterpoint: Med already peaked, Tsitsipas really is just a dirtballer, and Alcaraz is no Rafa.

I've been saying this for what seems like 10 years now, but the next big thing to disrupt the Big 2 is probably a player who isn't a pro yet
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
The thing that nobody is pointing out is that Djokovic might need to play 2 of the new gen back to back. That's a tough task for him. To beat Zverev and Medvedev is very tough on hards in majors. Then factor in other strong players like Alcaraz and FAA. I don't see anything getting easy for the big 2.
And yet, they have won 14 of the last 16 Slams. Still a bit early to say they can’t beat good NextGen players back-to-back. They have been doing that for the last four years.
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
Counterpoint: Med already peaked, Tsitsipas really is just a dirtballer, and Alcaraz is no Rafa.

I've been saying this for what seems like 10 years now, but the next big thing to disrupt the Big 2 is probably a player who isn't a pro yet
Everyone thought Djokovic peaked before he went on a rampage in 2011.
Remember that USO 2010 finals thread after he lost to Nadal? Everyone was like "Djokovic deserves to win at least 1 more Slam. He deserves it." :-D
 

Marco Rotim

Semi-Pro
Sure but in 2-3 years, both Alcaraz and FAA are going to be feasting on Grandpa Rafa routinely and consistently.

Nadal has the capability to win the French open at 40 right under the nose of Alcaraz who would be 23.

Almagro saw the future long back.
 

Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
Everyone thought Djokovic peaked before he went on a rampage in 2011.
Remember that USO 2010 finals thread after he lost to Nadal? Everyone was like "Djokovic deserves to win at least 1 more Slam. He deserves it." :-D

Now we know better--but med isn't Djok
 

Martin J

Hall of Fame
The thing that nobody is pointing out is that Djokovic might need to play 2 of the new gen back to back. That's a tough task for him. To beat Zverev and Medvedev is very tough on hards in majors. Then factor in other strong players like Alcaraz and FAA. I don't see anything getting easy for the big 2.
The point is that the guys like Zverev or Tsitsipas are proven chokers (or under-performers, though that line is very thin in their case) in Slams and it's hard to trust them not breaking down under the pressure.

Medvedev - fair point - he can win a HC Slam here and there (though I am not sure if his level is high enough to beat an in-form Nadalovic), but who else can stop the Big 2? The guys like Alcaraz or FAA are still not mature enough for the biggest stage.
You have a point about Djok playing the 2 next gen back to back, and he lost at the USO in a similar scenario, but he also beat them (Zvereve and Med) in Australia the very same year, so who knows.

So, as Rosstour pointed out, they are safe for the next season or two and I agree with that.
 
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