Dunlop PT924 16x19 doubt

[Moonarse]

Hello to my fellow racketaholics!

I'm in need of your knowledge.

Got the oportunity to lay my hands in a (what the guy says it is) Dunlop PT924 16x19 with the aero3hundred PJ. The dude trained with a former rising star that was with Dunlop and every bit of information he has fits perfectly.

Problem is, the retail aero 3 hundred looks exactly like the one he is showing me, specially in the areas that the bridge meets the throat. The retail one is straight with no depression, like the pt10, the muscle weave 200g and the liquidmetal prestige. All the information I found about the pt924 and the pictures shows that in that particular spot, it has the depression like the PT57A and the Mfil 200.

But, the Prostocktennis has one PT924 16x19 with a 300g Hotmelt PJ that seems to be straight with no depression. so I'm kind of lost. The guy said that the PT924 18x20 has the "curve" while the PT924 16x19 is straight with no "cavity".

Let me try to help you helping me: (these are both retail I found on the Internet)

left is straight, even, no depression. Right has the "cavity" that the PT57A has.


I'm 100% sure that the racket was used by that pro player, My only fear is that he customized a retail and it is not a prostock. I asked for the code and the guy said it is on the hairpin, but the handle was custom molded.

I'm really keen on having a pair of pt924 16x19 to mess around, I'm just not that keen to have the 3hundred, At least not for the price I'm Paying.

After all this explanation, the simple question is: Could This racket he is offering (no depression in the areas that the bridge meets the throat) really be a PT924 16x19?

Kisses from Moonarse, you wierdos!

Xoxo.

 

[PT630Wannabe]

I have no idea! But I will subscribe to this thread in the hope that it will cleanse my soul.

 

[Moonarse]

I have no idea! But I will subscribe to this thread in the hope that it will cleanse my soul.

Please help me by sending a smoke signal to the almighty entities of this forum. I know you know them! hahahaha

 

[PT630Wannabe]

Please help me by sending a smoke signal to the almighty entities of this forum. I know you know them! hahahaha

I think a lot of people are a bit shell shocked right now. It's like a vat of LSD was just poured over the forum.

 

[Moonarse]

I think a lot of people are a bit shell shocked right now. It's like a vat of LSD was just poured over the forum.

Talk about Dunlop Codes and no one bats an eye. Talk about HEAD Codes and suddenly everyone PT57 IS NOT TGK AS PT IS MADE OUT OF ALPACA FIBER AND TGK OUT OF CHINESE KIDDOS FUTURE AND TEARS.

 

[Automatix]

PT964 was/is the code of the mold we used to call Dunlop's "pro mold" due to the fact there was no retail issue of it and it was used by a lot of Dunlop pros.
Later it was released as the 300 Tour mold.

 

[Moonarse]

PT964 was/is the code of the mold we used to call Dunlop's "pro mold" due to the fact there was no retail issue of it and it was used by a lot of Dunlop pros.
Later it was released as the 300 Tour mold.

But, Could this code have two different molds with the two different string patterns? that what I've never heard about. This guy said that the pt924 embraces diferent molds.

For example, if you go to prostocktennis you will find a Amelie Mauresmo Personal that is said to be PT924 and is 16x19 with a mold that looks different from the other PT924 18x20.

At least at the throat area.

 

[Automatix]

But, Could this code have two different molds with the two different string patterns? that what I've never heard about. This guy said that the pt924 embraces diferent molds.

For example, if you go to prostocktennis you will find a Amelie Mauresmo Personal that is said to be PT924 and is 16x19 with a mold that looks different from the other PT924 18x20.

At least at the throat area.

I don't want to mislead you. I'm just going by memory of what James Blake used and the historic development of the once called "Dunlop pro mold".

If I were you I'd contact Paul (@Racketdesign). He is the most credible source for this kind of stuff. As I wrote above, what I would tell you would be my guess and experience which doesn't have to be accurate. Sorry I couldn't be of much help.

 

[Moonarse]

just for me not to strike as a complete lunatic to you, guys. All of these rackets are adressed as PT924. The first three are PT924 18x20, and the other one pt924 16x19.

Just look at the throat area:

Tommy Haas PT924's (I know that you guys will try to say that this is actually a PT57A PJ, but I dont think so, this looks exactly like the Blake ones that are adressed as PT924 and the other PT924 That I've found on the bay.)

And now, The Amelie Mauresmo PT924 (That looks exactly like the mold of the PT924 that the guy is selling me)

Look at the throat area. Really does seems like two different mold, doesn't it?

Just asked for the guy at prostocktennis and he confirmed that this 300G has the PT924 written on the handle.

My head cant process this. Maybe the PT924 means "prostock" for Dunlop, not a specific mold.

Please, flood this thread with your knowledge, gentlemans. I have nowhere to run (but to go back working, witch I do not want).

 

[elkabras]

Johansson & Robredo real racquet I think...I've two....Revelation Tour Pro...anyone can confirm this?

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[PT630Wannabe]

Johansson & Robredo real racquet I think...I've two....Revelation Tour Pro...anyone can confirm this?

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I have one in that graphic in the MP Extralong. Nice racquet.

 

[Automatix]

Some useless information...
300 Tour with the Biomimetic paintjob sold by TW was Option 11.
300 with the Biomimetic paintjob sold by TW was Option 9.
The above not being retail models - sold in the Vintage section where sometimes pro stocks pop up.

Johansson & Robredo real racquet I think...I've two....Revelation Tour Pro...anyone can confirm this?

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Johansson yes, Robredo, last time I checked was Option 2C which is not the racquet above IIRC.

 

[elkabras]

But he played with this model I think...he moves on 95-98 head sq inches & 16x19 pattern

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[niktub]

What is the code(or option ...) for the 300G HotMelt mold? (sorry to hijack...)

 

[Moonarse]

Any Dunlop expert around here to solve this mistery?

 

[DNShade]

What is the code(or option ...) for the 300G HotMelt mold? (sorry to hijack...)

Option 9 I believe it's called. It's the same mold for the HM 300G, Mfill 300, Bio 300, Maxply McEnroe, Bio Max 200G etc.

 

[niktub]

Option 9 I believe it's called. It's the same mold for the HM 300G, Mfill 300, Bio 300, Maxplay McEnroe, Bio Max 200G etc.

Thanks "mac friend"!

 

[Andy Murray Is Goat]

Talk about Dunlop Codes and no one bats an eye. Talk about HEAD Codes and suddenly everyone PT57 IS NOT TGK AS PT IS MADE OUT OF ALPACA FIBER AND TGK OUT OF CHINESE KIDDOS FUTURE AND TEARS.

LMFAOOOOOOOO

 

[racket king]

But, Could this code have two different molds with the two different string patterns? that what I've never heard about. This guy said that the pt924 embraces diferent molds.

For example, if you go to prostocktennis you will find a Amelie Mauresmo Personal that is said to be PT924 and is 16x19 with a mold that looks different from the other PT924 18x20.

At least at the throat area.

I sold a pair of the Berdych PT924 rackets a while back - 16x19, grooves in the throat, very high RA, as well as the usual high SW and static weight. There are different options offered to players for the PT924.

 

[elkabras]

I understand what he's tryin to say....after to have 17 racquets at home and finally playing with a microgel radical with lead tape and leather....but...its a hobby, I spend my time believing im "like" a pro jejeje but only in dreams or with friends...and collecting good racquets...Its too pleasant to my when I demo a dunlop revelation select pro and youngs in my club joke about that piece of old s*hit....and after that demo himself and just say OMG what a stick!! xD

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[vsbabolat]

Hello to my fellow racketaholics!

I'm in need of your knowledge.

Got the oportunity to lay my hands in a (what the guy says it is) Dunlop PT924 16x19 with the aero3hundred PJ. The dude trained with a former rising star that was with Dunlop and every bit of information he has fits perfectly.

Problem is, the retail aero 3 hundred looks exactly like the one he is showing me, specially in the areas that the bridge meets the throat. The retail one is straight with no depression, like the pt10, the muscle weave 200g and the liquidmetal prestige. All the information I found about the pt924 and the pictures shows that in that particular spot, it has the depression like the PT57A and the Mfil 200.

But, the Prostocktennis has one PT924 16x19 with a 300g Hotmelt PJ that seems to be straight with no depression. so I'm kind of lost. The guy said that the PT924 18x20 has the "curve" while the PT924 16x19 is straight with no "cavity".

Let me try to help you helping me: (these are both retail I found on the Internet)

left is straight, even, no depression. Right has the "cavity" that the PT57A has.


I'm 100% sure that the racket was used by that pro player, My only fear is that he customized a retail and it is not a prostock. I asked for the code and the guy said it is on the hairpin, but the handle was custom molded.

I'm really keen on having a pair of pt924 16x19 to mess around, I'm just not that keen to have the 3hundred, At least not for the price I'm Paying.

After all this explanation, the simple question is: Could This racket he is offering (no depression in the areas that the bridge meets the throat) really be a PT924 16x19?

Kisses from Moonarse, you wierdos!

Xoxo.

Here's what I know. Mauresmo used the Dunlop Revelation 200G 16x19. In fact she still uses it to this day. Looking at the ProStockTennis photo of Mauresmo's racquet it looks like the 200 mold to me. Mauresmo's racquets have a much narrower and longer yoke than the 300 series. Its a different mold to what Berdych, Haas, and Blake used while with Dunlop. Those guys used racquets from the same mold as the 300 Tour with 18x20 string pattern. I believe all three had different layups with Blake's supposedly being the stiffest.

Mauresmo's 200 series mold

In fact HEAD still provides Mauresmo with her Dunlop racquets painted like various HEAD Radical paint jobs.

 

[Lucas2015]

Thanks Vs as always

 

[PT630Wannabe]

Here's what I know. Mauresmo used the Dunlop Revelation 200G 16x19. In fact she still uses it to this day. Looking at the ProStockTennis photo of Mauresmo's racquet it looks like the 200 mold to me. Mauresmo's racquets have a much narrower and longer yoke than the 300 series. Its a different mold to what Berdych, Haas, and Blake used while with Dunlop. Those guys used racquets from the same mold as the 300 Tour with 18x20 string pattern. I believe all three had different layups with Blake's supposedly being the stiffest.

Mauresmo's 200 series mold

In fact HEAD still provides Mauresmo with her Dunlop racquets painted like various HEAD Radical paint jobs.

How does this transaction transpire? Does Mauresmo first aquire the Dunlop frames then hand them off to the HEAD pro room to be painted? Or is this two guys from Dunlop and HEAD wearing trenchcoats meeting in a cobblestone alley in some Eastern Bloc city?

 

[Lucas2015]

What about "option 2C , prostaff classic mould without psw" ??? Is the same as Aerogel 4d 300 tour?
And Almagro uses hotmelt 300g mould, doesnt he? (Different to aero 300 tour)

 

[vsbabolat]

What about "option 2C , prostaff classic mould without psw" ??? Is the same as Aerogel 4d 300 tour?
And Almagro uses hotmelt 300g mould, doesnt he? (Different to aero 300 tour)

Option 2C is Pro Staff classic without the PWS.

 

[Lucas2015]

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/dunlop-aerogel-4d-300-tour.245529/

Its the same mould as mfil 200g .

 

[Automatix]

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/dunlop-aerogel-4d-300-tour.245529/

Its the same mould as mfil 200g .

First of there was no "g" in the M-Fil designations.
M-Fil 200, M-Fil 300 and so on...

Secondly. The 4D 300 Tour is the Dunlop pro mold used by Haas, Blake and Berdych and supposedly it was previously available as M-Fil 200 Plus (97 square inch headsize, the "standard" M-Fil 200 had a 95 square inch head).

 

[Lucas2015]

Thank you!!! Its clear now.

My only question remaining is: who used option 2c ?

Just Robredo (after he left rev tour pro)?

Blake never used option C ?

 

[Lucas2015]

Summary of moulds (pls correct me if I am wrong):

-Blake/Haas/Berdych (before head tgk): aerogel 4d 300g tour (or mfil 200 plus or tecnifibre 320/330)
-Almagro: hm300g

95 inch headsize:
-Johanson/ Robredo (before option 2c): rev tour pro
-Mauresmo: rev 200g

 

[Automatix]

Blake/Haas/Berdych (before head tgk): aerogel 300g tour

Again, the Aerogel lineup did not have "g" in them. Aerogel 4D 300 Tour. In the original Aerogel lineup there were the 300 16x19 and a 300 16x18, different mold then the AG 4D 300 Tour.

Blake never used option C ?

Doubtful. Considering his "racquet crisis history".

My only question remaining is: who used option 2c ?

Just Robredo (after he left rev tour pro)?

Probably Jamie Murray and Henman, at some point or even now.

 

[Lucas2015]

Thanks!!!

Sorry to bother again but I still have 2 more:

1) despite the moulds, the layups avaliable to the public are only Almagro"s, Johanson/Robredo, Mauresmo ... whereas Blake/Haas/Berdych could have played with flexier or stiffer custom layups .
Correct?

2) Its curious that nobody used the favourite Dunlop in these boards, isnt it?
Mw200g

 

[Automatix]

1) despite the moulds, the layups avaliable to the public are only Almagro"s, Johanson/Robredo, Mauresmo ... whereas Blake/Haas/Berdych could have played with flexier or stiffer custom layups .
Correct?

Unless someone knows the layup codes of the retail models and the racquets used by the mentioned players it is not possible to confirm anything.

 

[elkabras]

Option 2C is Pro Staff classic without the PWS.

Then...Option 2C must be similar to my Dunlop Revelation Select Pro???

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[vsbabolat]

Then...Option 2C must be similar to my Dunlop Revelation Select Pro???

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No, Different molds.
The Slazenger Pro Braided is similar. Apparently the Slazenger Pro Braided will take Pro Staff Classic grommets. The difference is PWS and the grooves at the throat bridge.

 

[Hidious]

Does PT924 mean anything at all? I just removed the grip of a MW 200g reissue and it says PT924 on the handle, molded in plastic. Seems like PT924 can refer to different molds?

 

[daddabompa]

Does PT924 mean anything at all? I just removed the grip of a MW 200g reissue and it says PT924 on the handle, molded in plastic. Seems like PT924 can refer to different molds?

Yes, I think there are few brands that use the same code...for sure "modern" Donnay Pro One uses that code (I saw it on a sticker of a Pro Stock version of it).

 

[flex]

I've been out of the tennis racquet loop (used to be hobbyist). Used to be a huge Haas, Berdych, Blake fan. I used the mfil 200 and mfil 300. The mfil 200 was a bit too difficult to use consistently and the 300 too light and not enough plow. I eventually settled on the aerogel 300 tour. Mid 11 oz, nice flex at 62 and thin beam...great all around frame. (Kind of like a "200 light" I'd say)


Just wondering since I been out of the loop and just getting back into tennis, is there any comparable racquet. Seems like I would check dunlop every now and then and its all overly light, rounded beam now. I know they have the classic cx 200 tour kevin Anderson endorsed frame but that is I must admit probably too advanced. Any nice advanced intermediate frame from Dunlop or comparable to its old line these days?

 

[Songs For A Dead Pilot]

I've been out of the tennis racquet loop (used to be hobbyist). Used to be a huge Haas, Berdych, Blake fan. I used the mfil 200 and mfil 300. The mfil 200 was a bit too difficult to use consistently and the 300 too light and not enough plow. I eventually settled on the aerogel 300 tour. Mid 11 oz, nice flex at 62 and thin beam...great all around frame. (Kind of like a "200 light" I'd say)


Just wondering since I been out of the loop and just getting back into tennis, is there any comparable racquet. Seems like I would check dunlop every now and then and its all overly light, rounded beam now. I know they have the classic cx 200 tour kevin Anderson endorsed frame but that is I must admit probably too advanced. Any nice advanced intermediate frame from Dunlop or comparable to its old line these days?

I think you should try CX200 Tour as they are easier to use than older 200 line. They have more power and are arm-friendly despite being 64-63RA stiff. Not sure I would recommend CX200 as the feel is more like Babolat Pure Strike.

 

[gino]

Hello to my fellow racketaholics!

I'm in need of your knowledge.

Got the oportunity to lay my hands in a (what the guy says it is) Dunlop PT924 16x19 with the aero3hundred PJ. The dude trained with a former rising star that was with Dunlop and every bit of information he has fits perfectly.

Problem is, the retail aero 3 hundred looks exactly like the one he is showing me, specially in the areas that the bridge meets the throat. The retail one is straight with no depression, like the pt10, the muscle weave 200g and the liquidmetal prestige. All the information I found about the pt924 and the pictures shows that in that particular spot, it has the depression like the PT57A and the Mfil 200.

But, the Prostocktennis has one PT924 16x19 with a 300g Hotmelt PJ that seems to be straight with no depression. so I'm kind of lost. The guy said that the PT924 18x20 has the "curve" while the PT924 16x19 is straight with no "cavity".

Let me try to help you helping me: (these are both retail I found on the Internet)

left is straight, even, no depression. Right has the "cavity" that the PT57A has.


I'm 100% sure that the racket was used by that pro player, My only fear is that he customized a retail and it is not a prostock. I asked for the code and the guy said it is on the hairpin, but the handle was custom molded.

I'm really keen on having a pair of pt924 16x19 to mess around, I'm just not that keen to have the 3hundred, At least not for the price I'm Paying.

After all this explanation, the simple question is: Could This racket he is offering (no depression in the areas that the bridge meets the throat) really be a PT924 16x19?

Kisses from Moonarse, you wierdos!

Xoxo.

Here's what I know. Mauresmo used the Dunlop Revelation 200G 16x19. In fact she still uses it to this day. Looking at the ProStockTennis photo of Mauresmo's racquet it looks like the 200 mold to me. Mauresmo's racquets have a much narrower and longer yoke than the 300 series. Its a different mold to what Berdych, Haas, and Blake used while with Dunlop. Those guys used racquets from the same mold as the 300 Tour with 18x20 string pattern. I believe all three had different layups with Blake's supposedly being the stiffest.

Mauresmo's 200 series mold

In fact HEAD still provides Mauresmo with her Dunlop racquets painted like various HEAD Radical paint jobs.

this was a great read, thanks guys