Federer fans turning on Novak

beltsman

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Insecure Faker fanatical little kids throughout this board. Having to come up with all these stupid threads.

This. We truly are in the darkest era, not just for tennis quality, not just for tennis competition, not just for enjoyment of the game, but for fanboy posts. Faker fans are out of control and need a reality check ASAP. What OP is actually realizing is how few people actually like Djokovic and that most were simply cheering against Bull. This is just showing that his actual fanbase is very small compared to greats like Bull and Fed, but sadly they are the most vocal.
 
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Man, that's some dominance right there! Clearly equal to a guy that never lost to players double or triple the caliber of Nishikori.

Djoko ain't surpassing Federer, you're dreaming if you believe his level is comparable to Federer's from 2004-2006 "these last few years".
Apart from the end of 2014 and 2015, Djoker's looked more like a transitional champ than a dominating force.
 

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

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This. We truly are in the darkest era, not just for tennis quality, not just for tennis competition, not just for enjoyment of the game, but for fanboy posts. Faker fans are out of control and need a reality check ASAP. What OP is actually realizing is how few people actually like Djokovic and that most were simply cheering against Bull. This is just showing that his actual fanbase is very small compared to greats like Bull and Fed, but sadly they are the most vocal.
For these three months I have been here, I have seen and heard more of other players' fans crying, as well as underrating and insulting Djokovic than his own fans writing out of control posts.
Reality check? Saying Djokovic is by far the best player now and on a quest to do new great things in the near future does not need any reality check.
Predicting Nadal will come back next year because of a Basel final and a Bercy quarterfinal needs a reality check.
Crying about how Djokovic plays a boring game and still watching every match, as well as insulting him and his fans needs some other kind of check.
 

Djokovic2011

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Djokovic.

I accept he is as dominant or more dominant than Federer was in 2015/2011 alone, but no way am I going to lump in his other years.
I meant that no other player(at least in the Open era) has been as dominant as Federer was during that three year stretch so it's really no big deal that Djokovic hasn't been able to either.
 
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I meant that no other player(at least in the Open era) has been as dominant as Federer was during that three year stretch so it's really no big deal that Djokovic hasn't been able to either.
Yeah, I agree.

If Novak can somehow string together 3 consecutive 3-slam seasons then I will understand the comparison. Until/if that happens, I will keep defending my point..
 

beltsman

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For these three months I have been here, I have seen and heard more of other players' fans crying, as well as underrating and insulting Djokovic than his own fans writing out of control posts.
Reality check? Saying Djokovic is by far the best player now and on a quest to do new great things in the near future does not need any reality check.
Predicting Nadal will come back next year because of a Basel final and a Bercy quarterfinal needs a reality check.
Crying about how Djokovic plays a boring game and still watching every match, as well as insulting him and his fans needs some other kind of check.

People watch every Djokovic match? I can barely sit through one.
 

PeterHo

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He's a bit harsh on djoker, that's OK.

We know Nole didnt dominate 2012~2014.

2011 and 12 would be years dominated by the bull if it wasn't for Novak. Rafa would have had 3~4 more slams, along with 2 more years no.1.

If someone was to go toe to toe with Rafa in slam finals on all surfaces, it is Novak.

Nole has done a great job just to keep the no.1 ranking for most of that period, holding off prime Nadal, a 2012 fed, or a lendl Murray.

If anything he proved he can be the best player In a strong period.
 
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I still think he's been a dominant number 1 overall since 2011. If people think Sampras was one in his best five year period(93-97), they should think Djokovic is too.
I don't think he was dominant from 2012-2014.

I also don't think Sampras was really that dominant either. I mean, when Djoker decides to get serious and goes on a tear he posts better results than Sampras in a stronger time period. Sampras never had a season like Nole is having currently.
 

Djokovic2011

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I don't think he was dominant from 2012-2014.

I also don't think Sampras was really that dominant either. I mean, when Djoker decides to get serious and goes on a tear he posts better results than Sampras in a stronger time period. Sampras never had a season like Nole is having currently.
He wasn't dominant in those three years but I'm talking overall. He's won 9 majors (including two 3 slam seasons), the same as Pete did in his best five year stretch, is the only player to win 3 successive WTFs(possibly 4 in the next 12 days) and has won 40 titles in total, including a staggering 21 Masters 1000s and finished as YE#1 for 4 of the last 5 years. I understand you don't like him Saby but those are stats that should be afforded a huge amount of respect.
 
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He wasn't dominant in those three years but I'm talking overall. He's won 9 majors, (including two 3 slam seasons)the same as Pete did in his best five year stretch, is the only player to win 3 successive WTFs(possibly 4 in the next 12 days) and has won 40 titles in total, including a staggering 21 Masters 1000s and finished as YE#1 for 4 of the last 5 years. I understand you don't like him Saby but those are stats that should be afforded a huge amount of respect.
I understand the Pete comparison, which is where I think he's going to end up when his career is finished.

Oh, and I don't mind Djoker these days. He's a father and has grown up a lot since he was a young 20 year old kid. I find him a lot more appealing than Kyrgios for example, and I'm an Aussie! What I don't like is some of these gloryhunter fans (not you) putting Novak where he doesn't belong currently. If he wins 17 or 18 slams, I won't carry on when someone says he was a better player than Fed/Nadal/anybody.
 

PeterHo

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He wasn't dominant in those three years but I'm talking overall. He's won 9 majors (including two 3 slam seasons), the same as Pete did in his best five year stretch, is the only player to win 3 successive WTFs(possibly 4 in the next 12 days) and has won 40 titles in total, including a staggering 21 Masters 1000s and finished as YE#1 for 4 of the last 5 years. I understand you don't like him Saby but those are stats that should be afforded a huge amount of respect.

Its just a matter of competition.

If fed 06 kept facing Nadal in 7 consecutive finals on all surfaces, I am sure he wouldnt have won 3 slams a year.

If it wasn't for Nole, 2011 and 12 would have been multislam years for Nadal! And it would have just been a Rafa era going all the way till 13. Rafa multslam years 2010~13 same as fed, LOL.
 
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Its just a matter of competition.

If fed 06 kept facing Nadal in 7 consecutive finals on all surfaces, I am sure he wouldnt have won 3 slams a year.

If it wasn't for Nole, 2011 and 12 would have been multislam years for Nadal! And it would have just been a Rafa era going all the way till 13. Rafa multslam years 2010~13 same as fed, LOL.
Nadal was injured for most of 2012. He wouldn't have ended the year at No.1 even if he won multiple majors. Take out Nole in 2012, and I guarantee Federer ends the year at No. 1.

Federer didn't have a mental block against Nadal in 2006. Him facing Nadal that many times off clay wouldn't bother him. He'd still have a 3-slam season.
 
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You can't ever guarantee Nadal will win multiple majors in a season for 3 years straight anyway. He has way too many peaks and valleys in his level of play to sustain that level for any long amount of time.

That's why you see Nole and Fed winning 3 majors a season more than once. They know how to stay consistent with their level, Nadal just peaks for a few tournaments and his level sinks deeper than the Mariana Trench when he's satisfied.
 

PeterHo

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You can't ever guarantee Nadal will win multiple majors in a season for 3 years straight anyway. He has way too many peaks and valleys in his level of play to sustain that level for any long amount of time.

That's why you see Nole and Fed winning 3 majors a season more than once. They know how to stay consistent with their level, Nadal just peaks for a few tournaments and his level sinks deeper than the Mariana Trench when he's satisfied.

You can stick to ur opinion Sab.

Fedal h2h is much more about mental. Game wise fed has a huge matchup issue, which shows on all surfaces barring indoor. The mental block issue is not a problem for fed indoors then?

The reality is Nadal has been stopped by Nole 7 times in finals. The h2h record Fedal has shows Nadal woukd have won the majority of those encounters if he had faced fed. Its a peak fed vs peak Nadal conversation.

As to 2012 no.1, it doesn't even matter, since you have already admitted Nadal would have won 2 slams, so who's the real no.1?

As to his injuries, Nole is probably the biggest contributor to that, having so many long matches with Nadal. The reality was Nadal didnt get injured until mid 2012. Take Nole out of the picture everything else being equal, Nadal would have had 4 consecutivr multislam year.
 
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You can stick to ur opinion Sab.

Fedal h2h is much more about mental. Game wise fed has a huge matchup issue, which shows on all surfaces barring indoor. The mental block issue is not a problem for fed indoors then?
Nadal is just a bad indoor player.

PeterHO said:
The reality is Nadal has been stopped by Nole 7 times in finals. The h2h record Fedal has shows Nadal woukd have won the majority of those encounters if he had faced fed. Its a peak fed vs peak Nadal conversation.

As to 2012 no.1, it doesn't even matter, since you have already admitted Nadal would have won 2 slams, so who's the real no.1?
The H2H record is a heavily skewed stat, I believe peak Federer would have a fighting chance against peak Nadal on every surface apart from clay. 2007/2008 Wimbledon is what I'm going to quote.
 

PeterHo

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Nadal is just a bad indoor player.


The H2H record is a heavily skewed stat, I believe peak Federer would have a fighting chance against peak Nadal on every surface apart from clay. 2007/2008 Wimbledon is what I'm going to quote.
On outdoors, grass ia probably the only place fed has a decent chance.

Outdoor hard, what's their h2h there? Lol.

Would fed 06 really gonna have 3 slams and beat Nadal in all those slam finals? How much of a convincing argument can you make?

Tennis is between 2 plAyers. No matter how good you are against the rest, only the h2h matters when playing a certain player. Fed is overall better but against Nadal in a one on one situation, he is inferior.
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

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Every one of his match threads is filled with people that find him boring. What does make them keep watching him and crying on these threads if that is the case I don't know...
Its more or less the opposite in what you Novak protectors are doing 24\7. Only thing is that there is so many novak fanboys in here. You complain more about us that think he is boring that we saying its boring. One saying its boring and 3 of Novaks fanboys complain about that again. Its you fanboys that put so much energy into that subject and your making it bigger than it really is. Why just not accept that some think its boring? How can that even annoy you guys? I don't get it.
Would you be offended if I said he has an ugly nose too? (I don't think so, just an example.) chill out mate
 

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

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Its more or less the opposite in what you Novak protectors are doing 24\7. Only thing is that there is so many novak fanboys in here. You complain more about us that think he is boring that we saying its boring. One saying its boring and 3 of Novaks fanboys complain about that again. Its you fanboys that put so much energy into that subject and your making it bigger than it really is. Why just not accept that some think its boring? How can that even annoy you guys? I don't get it.
Would you be offended if I said he has an ugly nose too? (I don't think so, just an example.) chill out mate
Disagree. There were more people complaining about his game than his fans countering that last week. Not to mention that not every Novak fan was protecting him, since not all are persistent enough to talk about same stuff over and over again.
Personal taste is just fine. Making it look like a fact and rage on threads about it is not. And it is still remains to be answered why some people keep watching him if he is so boring. I can bet anything that it will be the same story again in his first round robin match next week.
 

killerboi2

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Well yeah, if weak era continues then it's possible he could match or maybe even beat Federer's slam count. Can't blame Fed fanatics for being scared.
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

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Disagree. There were more people complaining about his game than his fans countering that last week. Not to mention that not every Novak fan was protecting him, since not all are persistent enough to talk about same stuff over and over again.
Personal taste is just fine. Making it look like a fact and rage on threads about it is not. And it is still remains to be answered why some people keep watching him if he is so boring. I can bet anything that it will be the same story again in his first round robin match next week.

Yes I think so too. It usually is complaints after he plays. Not only here. You have to just live w that I guess :)
 
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