Federer wins Stuttgart wooden spoon

[Newcomer]

Federer lost in his first match (not first round, but still his first match) to Haas, who lost to Zverev, who lost to Lopez, who lost to Pouille. Just saying.

 

[tennisaddict]

That is not wooden spoon . Sorry

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Federer lost in his first match (not first round, but still his first match) to Haas, who lost to Zverev, who lost to Lopez, who lost to Pouille. Just saying.

That cannot be wooden spoon if Federer lost in second round. Federer did get wood spoon I believe in Madrid last year though.

 

[Standaa]

This is the famous Rafa Curse

 

[Newcomer]

That is not wooden spoon . Sorry

Of course it is. Lol, who cares, it was a 250 tournament anyway.

 

[Newcomer]

This is the famous Rafa Curse

It works even after 3 months.

 

[clayqueen]

Federer lost in his first match (not first round, but still his first match) to Haas, who lost to Zverev, who lost to Lopez, who lost to Pouille. Just saying.

It's only a small wooden spoon as the champion is the guy who beat the guy who beat the guy who beat Federer.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Fed can place this wooden spoon in his trophy cabinet, next to his 18 slam trophies.

 

[Incognito]

That is not wooden spoon . Sorry

Like your avatar, but what is Mac doing with those double digit slam winners

 

[tennisaddict]

Like your avatar, but what is Mac doing with those double digit slam winners

AO not really relevant during Johny Mac's period. So Borg and McEnroe deserve to be rated higher.

 

[underground]

It's a wooden spoon, you trace from the winner all the way down, it's the same for Madrid 2015.

 

[smoledman]

I'm sure Federer will proudly add this to Norman and his Sunshine Double.

 

[Goosehead]

wooden spoon ? lol, I think not. he lost in 2nd rd, way better performance than players who lost in 1st rd.

 

[Fedeonic]

Still needs a wooden Slam spoon, only Nadal in AO 2016 has that privilege.

 

[MasturB]

Federer didn't play in first round he got a bye so the bilaws still apply.

 

[ChrisRF]

That cannot be wooden spoon if Federer lost in second round. Federer did get wood spoon I believe in Madrid last year though.

You mean 2015 when he lost to Kyrgios? Because he wasn’t in Madrid in 2016. But still it’s the same case, he also had a 1st round bye before the Kyrgios loss.

However, he had a classic wooden spoon in Cincinnati way back in 2004 when there were no byes at Masters.

It was Federer < Hrbaty < Bjorkman < Santoro < Robredo < Hewitt < Agassi

 

[TripleATeam]

That cannot be wooden spoon if Federer lost in second round. Federer did get wood spoon I believe in Madrid last year though.

I disagree. If you trace back from the champion, loser by loser, you eventually come to Federer. It can't go further than that, so Federer wins the wooden spoon.

 

[GabeT]

Well done!

 

[Deleted member 77403]

I disagree. If you trace back from the champion, loser by loser, you eventually come to Federer. It can't go further than that, so Federer wins the wooden spoon.

Let's just disagree then. I don't see how a second round loss leads to a wooden spoon, when players lost in the first round, even if Federer got a bye. No problems you see it differently.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

lol

 

[Wilhelm]

Tommy Haas and his daughter know that there is no spoon!

 

[Noelan]

Valentina was trilled with her daddy playing great . She is such cute little girl.

 

[moonballs]

Wooden spoon? Did tommy haas beat someone in first round?

 

[Charlie]

So when tracing back leads you to a bye, does the guy who got that bye win the wooden spoon or is there no winner at all?

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Does it really count? It's meant to be the person who loses to a person who loses to the next person etc.

It gets muddled with tournaments that have byes.

E.g. Does Federer share the spoon with Herbert? Herbert lost to Haas, Haas then beat Federer but then lost to Zverev. The byes throw it all out of whack.

Wooden Spoon is said to be won by the player who is defeated in the first round by a player who is defeated in the second round, and so forth, until the final of a given tournament.

That's not what happened in Stuttgart and also Madrid in 2015. Federer's losses weren't in the 1R. Nobody really gets the spoon as the 1R loser in Stuttgart was Herbert but his opponent Haas won the 2R match against Federer.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Does it really count? It's meant to be the person who loses to a person who loses to the next person etc.

It gets muddled with tournaments that have byes.

E.g. Does Federer share the spoon with Herbert? Herbert lost to Haas, Haas then beat Federer but then lost to Zverev. The byes throw it all out of whack.



That's not what happened in Stuttgart and also Madrid in 2015.

A proper wooden spoon is Nadal at the 2016 Aus Open.

Nadal < Verdasco < Sela < Kuznetsov < Monfils < Raonic < Murray < Djokovic

Nothing confusing.