French Open Final 2010 mens singles
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AndyArodRoddick
Professional
I really root for JCF, but his calender is pretty sick atm..3 weeks in a row playing atm, then DC, then IW and Miami..than clay court starts in europe...i don't know if JCF is doing the right thing playing so much..
but he is my second best active player (roddick ofc) so i root for him.
djokovicgonzalez2010
G.O.A.T.
Quarters (though no way to tell about where they'll be)
Federer def Cilic 7-5 6-2 6-4
Davydenko def Soderling 6-2 7-6 (7) 5-7 4-6 6-3
Ferrero def Nadal 6-4 6-4 6-7 (6) 6-4
Gonzalez def del Potro 6-4 7-6 (5) 2-6 6-7 (1) 6-4
Davydenko def Federer 6-1 6-4 5-7 6-3
Ferrero def Gonzalez 5-7 6-4 6-4 6-7 (5) 6-4
Davydenko def Ferrero 6-4 5-7 7-6 (4) 6-4
Federer def Cilic 7-5 6-2 6-4
Davydenko def Soderling 6-2 7-6 (7) 5-7 4-6 6-3
Ferrero def Nadal 6-4 6-4 6-7 (6) 6-4
Gonzalez def del Potro 6-4 7-6 (5) 2-6 6-7 (1) 6-4
Davydenko def Federer 6-1 6-4 5-7 6-3
Ferrero def Gonzalez 5-7 6-4 6-4 6-7 (5) 6-4
Davydenko def Ferrero 6-4 5-7 7-6 (4) 6-4
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Ferrero? This is laughable.
AndyArodRoddick
Professional
Love Game
Talk Tennis Guru
Well that makes Ferrero, 30 (12.02.1980), a little over one year older than Federer, 28 (08.08.1981)
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Serendipitous
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djokovicgonzalez2010
G.O.A.T.
Hey people, I'm about to start Davis Cup thread(S) should i make one round 1 thread or one for every tie?
jamesblakefan#1
G.O.A.T.
One for every tie.
DavidGarcia
Hall of Fame
Ferrero is an amazing player but with 30 years old body does not forgive efforts as much as before. If he plays too much before the french he is going to get there exhausted and will lose in the early rounds.
My picks are: Nadal, Federer, Djokovic, Murray & Del Potro. Outsider= Ciliv.
My picks are: Nadal, Federer, Djokovic, Murray & Del Potro. Outsider= Ciliv.
Love Game
Talk Tennis Guru
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Love Game
Talk Tennis Guru
WRONG FORUM
This thread is in the wrong forum. This is the Pro Match Results forum, and since there will be NO, nada, zero RESULTS from the French Open Final for at least 13 weeks, this thread rightfully belongs in the General Pro Player forum @ http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/forumdisplay.php?f=13
This thread is in the wrong forum. This is the Pro Match Results forum, and since there will be NO, nada, zero RESULTS from the French Open Final for at least 13 weeks, this thread rightfully belongs in the General Pro Player forum @ http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/forumdisplay.php?f=13
It's classic TW hype after every fxxxxx tournament who ever wins it!
Win one and you'll be hyped here....win two and you are in the finals of the next GS!
He wont get past 3nd round.......and that is a stretch!
djokovicgonzalez2010
G.O.A.T.
Are you kidding? The Top 10 SUCK on clay, and I think the list of people that would certainly beat him now is down to Federer, Djokovic,Cilic, and Davydenko (maybe Soderling)
A week ago I would've said David Ferrer and delPo and Nadal are injured! (kolya is too but will be better by RG)
Agassi won at the age of 29, so I think Ferrero has a chance if he doesn't get injured or play too much before the French Open. Maybe he is thinking like Agassi did, realizing that this might be his last chance to do well at the French Open. That would be a great final if he were to make it that far with something left in the tank.
http://www2.uol.com.br/tenisbrasil/brasilopen/chaves_simples.html
http://www.copatelmex.com/ctelmex/dynamic/drawinteractivo/pdf/Singles.pdf
All this hype based on these two tournaments? jesus maria!!!........If he had at least won a masters on clay....beat nadal...rog....or djoko.......but this?.......people come on.... this oppositon can hardly be used for this kind of reference.
http://www.copatelmex.com/ctelmex/dynamic/drawinteractivo/pdf/Singles.pdf
All this hype based on these two tournaments? jesus maria!!!........If he had at least won a masters on clay....beat nadal...rog....or djoko.......but this?.......people come on.... this oppositon can hardly be used for this kind of reference.
sdont
Legend
Agreed. He was in the top 2 seeds at these tournaments. JCF is in good form lately and he did beat players he should have beaten, but it's not like he has upset anyone.
Call me back when he wins against the likes of Nadal, Federer, Djokovic, Del Potro, Davydenko, Gonzalez or even Soderling/Murray.
jamesblakefan#1
G.O.A.T.
Yeah, that Nadal guy, he sucks on clay. He's only got, like what, 4 RG titles? Pshhh....
Magix
Semi-Pro
I love Ferrero as much as the next guy does, but seriously, let's not piddle ourselves in excitement here, okay?
Having said that, though, I believe JCF could make it to the 4th round, quarter finals, given a decent enough draw.
Monte Carlo's the first of the clay Masters, and given its proximity (well, kinda, sorta; not really...) and Ferrero's solid record there, I wouldn't rule out a good result. Seriously, he could have a great run there. And probably only there... *Sigh*
Having said that, though, I believe JCF could make it to the 4th round, quarter finals, given a decent enough draw.
To be honest, I think that may be entirely within JCF's reach.Djumex said:
Monte Carlo's the first of the clay Masters, and given its proximity (well, kinda, sorta; not really...) and Ferrero's solid record there, I wouldn't rule out a good result. Seriously, he could have a great run there. And probably only there... *Sigh*
kishnabe
Talk Tennis Guru
Federer def Davydenko 7-6(4), 7-5,3-6,6-4
Djokovic def Soderling: 2-6,3-6,6-4,7-6(8),6-4
Nadal def Ferrero 7-5,2-6,7-5,6-0
Monfils def Gonzalez 6-3,4-6,5-7,6-3, 12-10
Federer def Djokovic: 7-5,7-5,6-4
Nadal def Monfils: 7-5,5-7,7-5,5-7, 9-7
Federer def Nadal: 3-6,6-4,6-4,5-7. 11-9
Federer repeats as champion and making the naysayers of Nadal dominationg of Federer at the FO slightly lesser!
Djokovic def Soderling: 2-6,3-6,6-4,7-6(8),6-4
Nadal def Ferrero 7-5,2-6,7-5,6-0
Monfils def Gonzalez 6-3,4-6,5-7,6-3, 12-10
Federer def Djokovic: 7-5,7-5,6-4
Nadal def Monfils: 7-5,5-7,7-5,5-7, 9-7
Federer def Nadal: 3-6,6-4,6-4,5-7. 11-9
Federer repeats as champion and making the naysayers of Nadal dominationg of Federer at the FO slightly lesser!
kishnabe
Talk Tennis Guru
Ya I am up for a bet...
I'm looking forward to the clay court season in Europe to see how Nadal and Ferrero do against the top players in the world. I guess I did jump the gun about Ferrero, but Nadal will need to get on the clay before the French Open. I wonder how his knees will respond to playing matches again on the ATP tour.
P_Agony
Banned
He's right, if Ferrero makes it past the 3rd round I'd be really surprised. If he plays REALLY well he MIGH make it the QF but that's as far as he gets. Ferrero's best days are long gone.
C++ Primer
Rookie
Federer y Nadal if they are not in the same half
Love Game
Talk Tennis Guru
psssst .... check out the OP .... s/he's another one of those "new users" who's been here for two years yet, at the time of the OP, had only 62 posts.
yeah right!
big bang
Hall of Fame
egn
Hall of Fame
Lets look at the previous south american swing champs and see how they did in the French Open...
2000 the only one held was Acapulco..Chela won it..need I say more.
01 Legit Kureten won 2 of the 3 but the other was won by Vacek
02 Kureten past his prime all ready won 1 Massu..and Moya. Moya in 02 was okay but no real threat.
03 Moya..Callari, Schalken...
04 Kuerten..ooh he made the quarters that year and got beat by fat dave who got destroyed by Gaston Gaudio...Coria and Moya won the other two. Moya hmm he was a good clay courter but no top gun..Coria again a top gun but a choker.
05 Nadal in his only clay mode he stopped showing up here for a reason and Gaudio
I won't go on but I've made my point only Kureten and Nadal actually won in a year they did well in the swing and it mostly features strong clay courters who are not strong on other surfaces and want to keep a ranking up. Gaudio did great in the south american clay court swing and the post French Open European swing..why? Oh cause non of the top players were going there usually because they were getting ready for the other big seasons. There is a reason Ferrero is dominating now..Hes back in good shape and hell he realized that nobody good shows up there anyway. These tournaments have players out of the top 100 getting spots sometimes. It made Almagro look like a top player cause he was dominating..what happened once he got to European clay court season..WHEN EVERYONE SHOWS UP! He was destroyed..remember that 6-1,6-1,6-1 beatdown Nadal gave him. Some clay court specialist. Don't get me wrong they are good clay courters Almagro, Nalbandian, Monfils, Gaudio etc. but they are not great Gaudio looks good cause of his fluke win. Nalbandian had about one good year and Monfils is far too inconsistent. Yet lets see how Ferrero can do in the European season. He needs to actually go deep at the clay masters and score wins against the top players like Djokovic, Nadal, Federer etc.
2000 the only one held was Acapulco..Chela won it..need I say more.
01 Legit Kureten won 2 of the 3 but the other was won by Vacek
02 Kureten past his prime all ready won 1 Massu..and Moya. Moya in 02 was okay but no real threat.
03 Moya..Callari, Schalken...
04 Kuerten..ooh he made the quarters that year and got beat by fat dave who got destroyed by Gaston Gaudio...Coria and Moya won the other two. Moya hmm he was a good clay courter but no top gun..Coria again a top gun but a choker.
05 Nadal in his only clay mode he stopped showing up here for a reason and Gaudio
I won't go on but I've made my point only Kureten and Nadal actually won in a year they did well in the swing and it mostly features strong clay courters who are not strong on other surfaces and want to keep a ranking up. Gaudio did great in the south american clay court swing and the post French Open European swing..why? Oh cause non of the top players were going there usually because they were getting ready for the other big seasons. There is a reason Ferrero is dominating now..Hes back in good shape and hell he realized that nobody good shows up there anyway. These tournaments have players out of the top 100 getting spots sometimes. It made Almagro look like a top player cause he was dominating..what happened once he got to European clay court season..WHEN EVERYONE SHOWS UP! He was destroyed..remember that 6-1,6-1,6-1 beatdown Nadal gave him. Some clay court specialist. Don't get me wrong they are good clay courters Almagro, Nalbandian, Monfils, Gaudio etc. but they are not great Gaudio looks good cause of his fluke win. Nalbandian had about one good year and Monfils is far too inconsistent. Yet lets see how Ferrero can do in the European season. He needs to actually go deep at the clay masters and score wins against the top players like Djokovic, Nadal, Federer etc.
egn
Hall of Fame
Hold on wait a second let us take a look
Federer beats him
Nadal. beats him
Djokovic. beats him
Murray. We all trash on Murray but he is getting better on the surface.
Davy. beats him most likely
Roddick..okay he wins here.
Del Potro beats him
Soderling I don't know honestly I am not buying into the clay hype he has lets see past his fluke run
Cilic and Verdasco are a toss up. I am not sure if I going to take Verdasco's fluke loss to Moncao as a sign of the death of him.
OTMPut
Hall of Fame
how much dude? equipment? frames?
you name it
usd 100k? u up for it?
djokovicgonzalez2010
G.O.A.T.
I mentioned Nadal. Don't you think JCF could beat Murray, Roddick, Tsonga, Stepanek, maybe Dasco, and Youzhny of the Top 16? Why would he get beat in RO32? He's on Top 16 himself?
davey25
Banned
I will put it this way. I wouldnt feel comfortable at this moment betting he wouldnt, but I also wouldnt feel comfortable betting he would if someone offered me that bet like I would have in past years. I am going to wait until the Masters events on clay before forming an opinion one way or another this time around.
jamesblakefan#1
G.O.A.T.
Murray's underated on clay, and did make QF last year. Tsonga made 4R last year, and beat Monaco en route IIRC. Pretty good considering he's not a natural CCer. Verdasco's decent enough on clay. Youzhny as well, and he's shown great form on HC recently, what's saying he can't translate that to clay.
Ferrero's on the level with these guys, but not above or below them IMO.
PSNELKE
Legend
agreed! but i´ve never noticed youzhny on clay.
why did dthomas post this thread yet?
because former FO winner is in a great form lately?!
i would rather discuss the final of wimby or the USO 2010.
mtr1
Professional
In my opinion, this is how the Top 15 would fare against Ferrero:
1 Federer, Roger (SUI) 3-0 Federer
2 Djokovic, Novak (SRB) 3-0 Djokovic
3 Nadal, Rafael (ESP) 3-0 Nadal
4 Murray, Andy (GBR) 3-0 Murray
5 Del Potro, Juan Martin (ARG) 3-0 Delp Potro
6 Davydenko, Nikolay (RUS) 3-0 Davydenko
7 Soderling, Robin (SWE) 3-1 Soderling
8. Roddick, Andy (USA) 3-1 Ferrero
9 Cilic, Marin (CRO) 3-2 Cilic
10 Verdasco, Fernando (ESP) 3-1 Verdasco
11 Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried (FRA) 3-2 Tsonga
12 Gonzalez, Fernando (CHI) 3-1 Gonzalez
13 Monfils, Gael (FRA) 3-1 Monfils
14 Stepanek, Radek (CZE) 3-0 Ferrero
15 Youzhny, Mikhail (RUS) 3-1 Ferrero
So I have him to beat 3 of the top 15. If he maintains a top 16 ranking, a think he will play to his seeding, maybe reach the quarters. If he slips outside the top 16, the 3rd/4th round is as far as he will get.
1 Federer, Roger (SUI) 3-0 Federer
2 Djokovic, Novak (SRB) 3-0 Djokovic
3 Nadal, Rafael (ESP) 3-0 Nadal
4 Murray, Andy (GBR) 3-0 Murray
5 Del Potro, Juan Martin (ARG) 3-0 Delp Potro
6 Davydenko, Nikolay (RUS) 3-0 Davydenko
7 Soderling, Robin (SWE) 3-1 Soderling
8. Roddick, Andy (USA) 3-1 Ferrero
9 Cilic, Marin (CRO) 3-2 Cilic
10 Verdasco, Fernando (ESP) 3-1 Verdasco
11 Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried (FRA) 3-2 Tsonga
12 Gonzalez, Fernando (CHI) 3-1 Gonzalez
13 Monfils, Gael (FRA) 3-1 Monfils
14 Stepanek, Radek (CZE) 3-0 Ferrero
15 Youzhny, Mikhail (RUS) 3-1 Ferrero
So I have him to beat 3 of the top 15. If he maintains a top 16 ranking, a think he will play to his seeding, maybe reach the quarters. If he slips outside the top 16, the 3rd/4th round is as far as he will get.
AndyArodRoddick
Professional
hahaha..ofcourse you have your opinion, but it made me laugh so haard..
murray 3-0
hahaha JCF is soo bad that he's not going to get a set from murray on CLAY?!..like wtf for me..and how the heck is going roddick to get a set from ferrero..it just dosen't sound good for me..
but yeah, that's your opinion.
djokovicgonzalez2010
G.O.A.T.
My list
1 Federer, Roger (SUI) 3-1 Federer
2 Djokovic, Novak (SRB) 3-2 Djokovic
3 Nadal, Rafael (ESP) 3-2 Ferrero, depends on shape
4 Murray, Andy (GBR) 3-1 Ferrero
5 Del Potro, Juan Martin (ARG) 3-2 Ferrero, depends on shape
6 Davydenko, Nikolay (RUS) 3-2 Davydenko
7 Soderling, Robin (SWE) 3-1 Soderling
8. Roddick, Andy (USA) 3-0 Ferrero
9 Cilic, Marin (CRO) 3-2 Ferrero
10 Verdasco, Fernando (ESP) 3-1 Ferrero
11 Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried (FRA) 3-2 Ferrer0
12 Gonzalez, Fernando (CHI) 3-2 Ferrero
13 Monfils, Gael (FRA) 3-1 Monfils
14 Stepanek, Radek (CZE) 3-0 Ferrero
15 Youzhny, Mikhail (RUS) 3-2 Ferrero
mtr1
Professional
hahaha..ofcourse you have your opinion, but it made me laugh so haard..
murray 3-0
and how the heck is going roddick to get a set from ferrero..it just dosen't sound good for me..
but yeah, that's your opinion.
It's not that Ferrero is "that bad", it's just I think Murray will be good enough this year, and would be able to edge out Ferrero in 3 close sets. Roddick showed in 2009 he has improved on clay, 4th round at the French, and took a set from Federer in Madrid.
davey25
Banned
Obviously Ferrero in any state is a better clay courter than Roddick. However Roddick is a horrible matchup for Ferrero, Ferrero is totally his lapdog. I was stunned the 2003 U.S Open final for instance wasnt much closer after seeing how Ferrero played vs Agassi and Roddick get outplayed and nearly go out to Nalbandian. Of course Ferrero was fatigued for that match with all the sets he played, but it also showed how Roddick can just take about Ferrero's game. Even with most of their matches being on hard courts they were surprisingly one sided. Add to that Ferrero being far past his prime, and I think a match on clay between them now would be fairly tight.
AndyArodRoddick
Professional
I wouldnt agree with that, but lets see MC, Rome, Madrid n'stuff.
samprasvsfederer123
Banned
has ferrero really made you all pop a boner, that you are all now kissing his ass, you think he will be able to beat federer, novak, nadal, or even murray, ferrero is over, and i dont even know why he keeps trying he won a grand slam, knows hes not gonna win another one, has enough money, or doesnt he?
