Miami83095
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Murray Wins The French Open !!!!
French Open Final 2010 mens singles
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MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
My sentiments exactly. People get hot for 2 seconds and the past doesn't matter.
edmondsm
Legend
Would you mind posting the scores for the entire tournament. I really curious to see how you think all 128 men will fair in a draw that won't exist for more then 2 months.
djokovicgonzalez2010
G.O.A.T.
1st round upset O Rochus defeats Kohlschreiber. Obviously Idk
egn
Hall of Fame
So what are these numbers based on. I just can't believe the hype that Ferrero is getting. Davy had hype but at least he won THE YEAR END MASTERS and beat Nadal and Fed twice in a row. However lets take a realistic approach to this wonderful draw of yours.
#1. When is everyone going to wake up and smell the coffee? Hell even Soderling knows it. Clay is not his strong surface. HE IS 49-41 on the surface. He had one really good win on the surface. But please he is not the next CLAY GOAT. Nadal had an off day Soderling won. Yes Soderling played amazing, and no it is no excuse for Nadal. I heavily doubt the injury was as bad as it seemed but him pulling out of wimbledon confirms it but Soderling was on a run. He was not playing great clay court tennis. He got beat 6-1, 6-0 by Nadal a week before. He has one title on the surface..Bastad. If he proves me wrong so be it but there is no way in hell Soderling is winning a French Open anytime soon. I feel safe betting on that.
#2 The spring European Clay Court Season >>>>>>>>>>>> South American Swing. Tons of great French Open champs in their primes never really showed up there, Nadal, Ferrero himself. Sure it is relatively new over the past 10 years but only in 2 years did the actual French Open champ win a tournament there and most years did not even show up. Especially over the previous few. Have Almagro, Robredo, Monaco, Ferrer been making huge dents in France. I don't think so. Have they done much in Europe? Nope. Robredo got his gift when Fed and Nadal skipped Hamburg in 06. Lets see how Ferrero does in Europe before we hand him a French Open. The field will be deep then.
#3 Murray is greatly underrated on clay. Murray doesn't play much on clay yes. However lets look at how he did. He has better results in the master series over the past few years than most "clay court specalists" He has beaten Davydenko, Robredo, Cilic on the surface. Hes not great but he is not the worse thing ever. Once again lets him judge him this year. He aint winning France either for that matter his chances are probably lower than Soderlings but he could easily get to the quarters again and could make a run like Soderling.
#4 Nadal is not done. He's not. He lost on hardcourts at the Aussie. Okay? He lost in the masters? Okay. He was injuried. Okay. However before the NADAL IS THE BEST THING EVER HYPE. Him going out in the quarters of a hardcourt slam well that was not unusual. Nadal has always been strong in masters on hardcourts, most say cause its best of 3 less wear and tear. However Nadal still made all 3 clay court masters finals last year and is still in the top in the world. He is not about ready to roll over and die. He looked pretty sharp against Berdych in the DCup finals after a rough first set. Again though..I am taking Nadal over Ferrero.
Kill the hype machine let Ferrero produce. If he loses to Ferrer tonight does this mean Ferrer is going to make the French Open finals as well?
big bang
Hall of Fame
you got it
whos your pick?
djokovicgonzalez2010
G.O.A.T.
jamesblakefan#1
G.O.A.T.
@Point #1: Soderling did beat more than Nadal last year (Ferrer, Verdasco, Gonzalez, Davydenko) all solid top 10-top 15 players on clay, and backed that up w/ a title on clay. He's probably not going to win RG, but it's not overrating or overstating to say he should be a QFist this year. Just b/c Nadal wasn't healthy doesn't devalue what he was able to do, beating those other guys as well as Nadal.
@Point #2: Agreed. I believe it was 2008 when Almagro led the tour in CC victories, then promptly got his arse smacked at RG by Nadal. So SA CC isn't as big of a factor as the CC MS events are.
@Point #3: Agreed. Murray probably will go out 4R-QF, but the way so many p!ss aside his chances on clay and put someone like JCF miles ahead of him dumbfounds me.
@Point #4: The biggest point. Nadal isn't done folks. Even if he isn't back to being 2008 Nadal, he's still a top 3 CCer at the very least, if not still #1 on clay. To say someone like JCF will just roll in and beat him is premature. If he comes back at even 90% of what he once was, he's still a top 5 CCer. I'm kinda laughing at how everyone's writing him off so readily. IDK, maybe it's just wishful Fed fans.
egn
Hall of Fame
I agree its not overstating to say he would be a quarterfinalist but when people say he is top 5 on clay which has been said numerous times over the past month. If you told me Nadal was to face Soderling again on clay I am still picking Nadal in heartbeat over him. I agree his win over Davy was impressive but at the same time Davy is far too inconsistent at points for me to put so much stock in it. The win against Gonzo and Nadal were impressive but once he ran into another top tier clay courter he was demolished. He played a crappy first set against Fed but even when he was playing great in the second and third it was clear Fed was in another league from him. Well see I agree him making a qf is very possible especially given his ranking.
djokovicgonzalez said:
So could Murray for that matter and a handful of others. However as Ferrer proved today Ferrero is not invincible. Ferrer himself is not even top of the clay court pack he is a strong claycourter who puts up strong results in Europe exception of France cause he is choker. However if Ferrer can beat him what is to say guys like Del Po, Monfils, Gonzo and Davy can't let alone Federer, Djokovic and of course Nadal. Whats a very good draw? Murray could go deep if he had a great draw. Ferrero is going to be seeded and will most likely have to run into at least one if not two top 10 guys by the QFs. The odds of his draw having what both Roddick and perhaps Murray are not too high. Even then on a good day Murray could push him. Ferrero can make a run but its going to need him playing even better than that of the past few weeks. I feel it is possible and he has an intimidation factor but lets not jump the gun let him play through Europe.
kishnabe
Talk Tennis Guru
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I pick Federer for the FO and U? If u pick Nadal and he does not win the FO and Federer doesn't win the FO.. It a draw and nothing has to be [payed)
big bang
Hall of Fame
deal mate
and yes I pick Nadal..
Pink_Shirt
Rookie
I would say Nadal but I want to see him play some Clay this year before I put money on him. So probably Federer.
TheFifthSet
Legend
How are you so sure? I find it strange that Davydenko is one of your alternatives to Nadal, he folds pretty much whenever he gets a shot at a slam. AO 2010 shoulda taught you something.
Semi-Pro
Hall of Fame
I never said I was sure :?
Hard court or not Davy's been playing some good tennis lately, even in the Aussie match vs Fed until he completely lost it. Also, he plays very similar on both hard court and clay so he could give Nadal some trouble if Nadal's defensive clay court skills are not up to par.
Again, it's just a prediction. Surely stranger things have happened like the Soderling Nadal match...who would have guessed that?
Slazenger07
Banned
Ferrero? Seriously? His best days are behind him.
This year the title will belong to Nadal again.
This year the title will belong to Nadal again.
angiebaby
Semi-Pro
My pick for the semis too. For the final Nadal v Ferrero with Rafa walking away with a 5th crown. For some reason I can't see Federer having a good run at the French this year. Ferrero, despite his recent loss still has it in him for one last hurraah before it starts to head south again. But a fit and refreshed Rafa at French? Can't see anyone stopping him.
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Deleted member 22147
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Ferrero reaching the Roland Garros final? No chance. Just because he's won a couple of IS events in South America playing against a limited field doesn't show how he will size up against the top 10 or even 20.
DownTheLine
Hall of Fame
Federer winning all his matches with a triple bagel.
Sephiroth619
Rookie
Federer vs Nadal.
Federer wins in 3.
Federer wins in 3.
