Head Prestige 2021

esm

Legend
To those who tried MP/L - what is your mods that you did on this racket?
How it plays in terms of power/control?
I use G360+ Mid, 334g, 30.8cm, 300SW (unstrung). I want something that is little more forgiving and has a little bit more power, but with similar feel.
And yes, 16x19 string pattern is mandatory.
Had the MP-Ls setup the exact same as the Redhead Mids. same string, both 337g/32.5/338SW ish. Played well and easy power, nice enough control on good days (for me). But just can’t get used to the elongated head shape.
nice PJ and platform racquet if you fancy a “bigger” headsize 16x19 with 8 mains at the throat. Overall, I much prefer the feel of Redhead Mid than the MP-L at the same spec/setup.
evenrually went back to the UT and the Redheads Mids.
 

Trip

Hall of Fame
@esm and @Lavs - Perhaps a bit after the fact, but if you string for yourself with a multi-point mount, a way to mostly alleviate the elongated head issue on the TK334 mold (G360+ Tour and S; Auxetic MP & MP-L) is to use ever-so-slightly less contact pressure on the tip/throat mount than you do on the sides, so that you get a bit more frame compression from the mains than the crosses, slightly squashing the frame vertically (very minimally -- only 1-3mm), which bows out the hoop at 9 and 3 by an equal distance on both sides, and it may just be placebo, but I swear it plays better, and certainly looks more naturally proportioned. YMMV, grain of salt, etc. but I think it goes a long way.
 

Dags

Hall of Fame
But just can’t get used to the elongated head shape.
This is actually my favourite thing about the MP-L. I've never gelled with wide hoops and my 1HBH, and find the narrowness helps this one swings beautifully.

I've tried multiple setups. I rarely add weight to 3 and 9, but found it needed a dab to stop a touch of flutter on my forehand. One of mine came at 300g on the nose and 317mm, so I've used that as a base and settled on 3g at 12, 1g at 3 and 9, and 7.5g of silicone in the handle.
 
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esm

Legend
@esm and @Lavs - Perhaps a bit after the fact, but if you string for yourself with a multi-point mount, a way to mostly alleviate the elongated head issue on the TK334 mold (G360+ Tour and S; Auxetic MP & MP-L) is to use ever-so-slightly less contact pressure on the tip/throat mount than you do on the sides, so that you get a bit more frame compression from the mains than the crosses, slightly squashing the frame vertically (very minimally -- only 1-3mm), which bows out the hoop at 9 and 3 by an equal distance on both sides, and it may just be placebo, but I swear it plays better, and certainly looks more naturally proportioned. YMMV, grain of salt, etc. but I think it goes a long way.
Yeah, a good tip, but I wouldn’t want to do that to any frame just so the head looks/feels differently than what was originally designed.
I string for myself and have 6-pt eCP, but I wouldn’t do that to any frame.
speaking of string in, the MP-L CAP is softer, so it makes it slightly tight to pass the string in the side supports, but no end of the world problem. Lol
 

Djokovicfan

Professional
Auxetic Prestige Pro is the TK345 mold and TGK345.2 layup
Auxetic Prestige Tour is the TK291 mold
Auxetic Prestige MP and MP-L are TK334 mold
There is no such thing as Auxetic Prestige Tour 99. Those are 95 sq in.
Interesting. It is the traditional Prestige yoke and thin beam but 99, standard oval head.
Is there going to be a new TGT for new layup? TGT345.1 and TGT345.2 both share the same layup which is the same as G360+.
TK291, G 360+ Pro (360 and Touch) is a 95
Probably Unchanged, but will check (345.1 for 18M and 345.2 for 16M)
I’m probably wrong but isn’t the Auxetic prestige tour a 95 and the Tk291 mold a 98.
Why doesnt head try to simplify the naming conventions for their racquets? Its almost ridiculous.
 

J-Wildcard

Semi-Pro
It was a very confusing move to bring all the lines in as one but I guess in a generation it two it will be more seamless. However I find it sad now that the Head line now has no pro line style control frame. They have got rid of the mid which actually played better than the last gen mp and pro for me but the mid is a more demanding racket to use so I guess it depends on the target market. Its probably set up nicely with the current range to offer a pro labs style line giving you the more precise pro stock spec offerings as they aren't there on the retail versions anymore for me. The 360+ pro actually played better than the mp. Not a nice feeling frame though like the older pre graphene prestige frames. Who knows what the future holds for the range but it seems to have been dumbed down. The wilson blade and ultra pro are closer to being like what I would describe as a proper prestige which is the ultimate in control and precision with nice feel where you have total control of the power input.
 
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TennisLogic

Semi-Pro
Just tried the graphene touch pro. It was so good, I switched. The equivalent with the auxetic is the tour.
Is it much better to warrant getting new racquets?
 

TennisLogic

Semi-Pro
One more thing, I remember the old prestige’s from the 90s had more rectangular grip shapes. I loved those…. Too bad Head seems to have dropped those in favor of more squarish ones
 

J-Wildcard

Semi-Pro
One more thing, I remember the old prestige’s from the 90s had more rectangular grip shapes. I loved those…. Too bad Head seems to have dropped those in favor of more squarish ones
Yes, you can change them, there's a few guides on how to do it as it can make a pretty big difference if you have developed a technique round the rectangular grips. They aren't expensive and you can still use the existing butt cap. If you can adjust then that's easier of course and I would see how you do with it.
 

Djokovicfan

Professional
Just tried the graphene touch pro. It was so good, I switched. The equivalent with the auxetic is the tour.
Is it much better to warrant getting new racquets?
Im not sure what racquet you are talking about.
2015-2017 graphene touch speed pro?
2019-2020 Graphene 360+ prestige pro?
2021 prestige pro?

i couldnt find a racquet on google called just “graphene touch pro”. Im curious which racquet u r talking about.
 

QXZ0FK2

New User
Is there any racquet in their lineup that is a 95in,18x20?

I feel as if Head went the wrong direction with the Prestige line, if anything they should have just made a 97in with a 18x19 string pattern to "modernize" it slightly. This probably would have kept some of the "purists"
 

bobeeto

Professional
Is there any racquet in their lineup that is a 95in,18x20?

I feel as if Head went the wrong direction with the Prestige line, if anything they should have just made a 97in with a 18x19 string pattern to "modernize" it slightly. This probably would have kept some of the "purists"
They have a 95 16x19, a 98 18x20 and a 99 18x19

they have covered all their bases and modernized it plenty
 

J-Wildcard

Semi-Pro
I don't think the 98 head is the main issue, I have hit with 100inch frames that play far better, I think it must be the layup as it just doesn't solid up sufficiently to make it a credible high level racket for me. It's easier to hit with and diluted prestige, volleys OK but not in the same league as the older pre graphene versions with the 95 head. Also the drill pattern goes very low now on the throat which is pretty pointless unlike say the older prestige 18x20 and the Wilson ultra pro, the Wilson is pretty much what the prestige mp should have been, 97 head with great layup and pro stock feel.
 

jimmy8

Legend
i love my 360+ prestige pro 95 sqin, 16x19 - so much control, great stability, decent power, ok feel - but i'm just not good enough to use it against 4.0 and up players. i am currently using the pro staff six.one 100 v13 - i like it because it feels just like a prestige, but larger sweet spot and better maneuverability - slightly less control, slightly less stable, slightly more power.
 

QXZ0FK2

New User
I don't think the 98 head is the main issue, I have hit with 100inch frames that play far better, I think it must be the layup as it just doesn't solid up sufficiently to make it a credible high level racket for me. It's easier to hit with and diluted prestige, volleys OK but not in the same league as the older pre graphene versions with the 95 head. Also the drill pattern goes very low now on the throat which is pretty pointless unlike say the older prestige 18x20 and the Wilson ultra pro, the Wilson is pretty much what the prestige mp should have been, 97 head with great layup and pro stock feel.

That Wilson Ultra sounds really interesting, but I hate the feel of Wilson's grip shape. I currently use the Prestige YT and haven't been able to find a solid replacement. I really don't think I will be able to honestly.
 

aus89

Hall of Fame
That Wilson Ultra sounds really interesting, but I hate the feel of Wilson's grip shape. I currently use the Prestige YT and haven't been able to find a solid replacement. I really don't think I will be able to honestly.
Its a shame there isnt a version that doesn’t pretty much require customization
 

J-Wildcard

Semi-Pro
That Wilson Ultra sounds really interesting, but I hate the feel of Wilson's grip shape. I currently use the Prestige YT and haven't been able to find a solid replacement. I really don't think I will be able to honestly.
Yes I hear that. With the older prestige rackets they used the 82 pallet not the squarer style and it does have an effect on shots especially if you have developed the muscle memory for that grip and technique around it for a long time. There are companies that do this I have heard as the Wilson are not user replaceable. I hope Head do release a good prestige again next generation but I fear they have diluted the whole retail line as there is very little now on the way of true players sticks, they are all made easier to use which is understandable for many recreational players they want easier power and bigger sweetspots but there is no longer a serious players line there for me from they used to offer. The speed pro infact is now almost the same as the radical and prestige, they all are very similar and of course the gravity pro. Very minimal differences. The older intelligence, liquid metal, youtek all feel like pro stocks infact in comparison to the new ones even in build quality as well as hitting quality and feel.
 

J-Wildcard

Semi-Pro
Its a shame there isnt a version that doesn’t pretty much require customization
True a 315/320 out the box version with even balance 310 would be nice. But then it isn't available as a normal retail racket and only pro labs which is a bit cheeky really making extra money there. The Blade is very highly priced too but they are very popular.
 

J-Wildcard

Semi-Pro
Is there any racquet in their lineup that is a 95in,18x20?

I feel as if Head went the wrong direction with the Prestige line, if anything they should have just made a 97in with a 18x19 string pattern to "modernize" it slightly. This probably would have kept some of the "purists"
Unfortunately not now, they have increased the head size on the 18 x 20 frames, there is the prestige tour but this is more like a radical to me with an open pattern and a 22mm beam. I would say the closest control frame now that delivers power is the speed pro, it swings heavier and hits bigger but is a better prospect than the head prestige pro in the current lineup. The radical pro is also regarded by many as good option. I don't like the radical pro as much, but it's still a decent racket and about to get an update. Of course there is also the gravity pro which is a decent racket but is let down in the handling department for me, it just is too hard to maneuvere late sometimes and on volleys, it's a great frame for baseline hitting but it's handling take it below the head speed pro and the prestige pro for me.
 

ttlapointe

Rookie
Any strings recommendations for the Auxetic Prestige Pro for someone who usually likes not too stiff round polys? Currently trying YPTP 120 at 48lbs on it, and will try Signum Pro Firestorm next, but would be interested in considering other options. Thanks!
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
Any strings recommendations for the Auxetic Prestige Pro for someone who usually likes not too stiff round polys? Currently trying YPTP 120 at 48lbs on it, and will try Signum Pro Firestorm next, but would be interested in considering other options. Thanks!

Element.

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InSydeOut

Rookie
I have the ultra pro and the prestige tour auxetic in my bag. The prestige feels buttery and luxurious. The ultra with lead feels uniquely good in its own right but in comparison it's nothing to write home about. I never tried the earlier IG prestiges or pro stocks so maybe I'm not a good reference but personally the prestige tour is on another level. I don't think the prestige mp/pro is as good either tbh.

They suit completely different play styles though. I switch between these two, as some days I just want less power so I go to the Ultra. The prestige though, it wants to you attack. But if you dial in the tension and the ball arc, this thing is the best of all worlds.
 

Tranqville

Professional
@janelgreo - Have you had a chance to hit with the Auxetic Prestige Tour (formerly G360+ Pro)? If so, how has it gone? What do you like/dislike? As much as you can tell (and even better if you can measure), does the swing weight seem to have gone way up, per TW's listed swing weights for the Auxetic Prestiges? That's the one thing that really irks me about them... I mean, why the heck would they do that to such an extent? The swing weights of the G360+'s seemed so ideal... anyways, thanks in advance for any feedback.
@janelgreo Really wonder what hapenned with the Prestige Tour - what's your feedback and have you stuck with it?
@Trip I discover your contribution in the threads that interest me, however esoteric :)
 
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