Not sure if I worded this correctly but...I was wondering how high the ball is over the net for most pros? Like Federer when he hits his stroke the height of the ball over the net isn't as high like Nadal. My question is whats the average ball height over the net for most pro strokes?
Height of the ball over the net?
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jakemcclain32
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Well, at the center, the net is 36" high. I'd say it's a good 8-10" on average, depending on the shot.
Migelowsky
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I think they hit higher sometimes, specially Nadal.
Look at this video , the camera is at court level
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX7MUWVwQIc
Look at this video , the camera is at court level
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX7MUWVwQIc
Migelowsky
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I wouldn´t mind moonballing at that speed and with that spin
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Laurie
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It really depends on a lot of factors, choice of shot, where positioned on the court, the shot you got from your opponent etc.
I think out of all the players I've seen live since 1995, I would say Anastasia Myskina was the player who hit the ball as low over the net consistently I've seen without constantly hitting the net. Even players the media would describe as "flat" hitters usually have decent net clearance.
I think out of all the players I've seen live since 1995, I would say Anastasia Myskina was the player who hit the ball as low over the net consistently I've seen without constantly hitting the net. Even players the media would describe as "flat" hitters usually have decent net clearance.
Sid_Vicious
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I love this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX7MUWVwQIc&feature=player_detailpage#t=38s
This is what Djokovic does on a consistent basis with his backhand when dealing with Nadal's forehand.
In which direction is the error, then?
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
That is why Federer keeps losing against Nadal, he can not hit that shot with a single handed backhand.
Haha this made me lol
OddJack
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Rodge net clearance is very low.
During Wimbledon this year I remember they compared Nadal's vs Djoker. Nadal's was way higher.
kOaMaster
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I did sit already at the courtside center when federer played nalbandian in basel and I was surprised how low over the net federer's average shots were compared to nalbandian. hard to guess but I would say not more than 30-50cm in baseline rallies.
marc45
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BringBackSV
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That's got to be off the ground no, not net clearance?
If you want your shots to land deep, you have to clear the net by a big margin. You can see this in your own game--when you hit a ball that clears the net by a few inches (centimeters), it'll land short, unless the ball has been hit with extreme power (or the return is made off a very low ball and is hit with more of an upward angle than for more typical shots). The laws of physics apply equally to pros and the rest of us.
Nadal wants his forehand shots to bounce high (most effectively to a one-handed BH). This won't happen unless there's great clearance over the net. The ball won't bounce higher than the highest point of the pre-bounce flight. For example, you can't expect a ball to reach a height of 2 meters after the bounce if it isn't higher than that before the bounce.
BringBackSV
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Commentators on Federer's net clearance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge17unv-XrI#t=693
(6 to 8 feet) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge17unv-XrI#t=1107
Narcissist
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Commentators on Federer's net clearance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge17unv-XrI#t=693
(6 to 8 feet) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge17unv-XrI#t=1107
Nice to see some actual data. Low net skimmers are a fallacy.
Gary Duane
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Cup8489
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I believe that's actually ground clearance. Otherwise his shots would be going ten feet into the air.. and I don't think I see that happening often enough for that to be an average height.
Gary Duane
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7 feet over the net seems too high to me also. I'd like to see those numbers checked. Hard to tell from the graphics.
I remember that graphic when they showed it on TV. The words said "height over the net," but the trajectories they showed looked like height over the ground and were nowhere close to that height over the net.
dominikk1985
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2-4 feet on average.
Gary Duane
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That's what I think too. I still think "over the net" means that they mostly measure the height over the net, at that position, but not height added to the height of the net itself, and additional 3 feet.
Gary Duane
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That would be about 4.5 feet, and that seems right.
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It's definitely height off the ground...Darren Cahill cleared this up in the AO commentary on ESPN.
To be precise it's "Average Ball Height (off the ground) as it crosses over the net
And I don't think it has to do with landing deep...actually Nadal's shots often don't land deep.
I don't like Murray's combination of hitting flat with low net clearance but yet not being that aggressive/pushing. It seems counter productive.
To be precise it's "Average Ball Height (off the ground) as it crosses over the net
And I don't think it has to do with landing deep...actually Nadal's shots often don't land deep.
I don't like Murray's combination of hitting flat with low net clearance but yet not being that aggressive/pushing. It seems counter productive.
Gary Duane
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That's true. But a lot of those short balls would go into the net for other players, using less topspin. That gives Rafa so much margin for error. Badly hit forehands, when he is nervous or not zoned, still make it over the net. Borg used to do the same thing in comparison to his opponents.
BringBackSV
Hall of Fame
It gets him in trouble on low bouncing surfaces though.
Cup8489
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I honestly have a hard time thinking of which forehand I would like to have given the choice.. Nadal or Federer's. They're both such spectacularly good shots, prime for prime.. it's hard to say. Being a lefty, I'd probably choose Nadal.. but I would need to spend lots of time on my footwork for that.
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