How do tennis players stack up against other professional athletes?

thirty_forty

New User
So, this one's a bit of an open-ended debate, but I did a bit of homework on my blog about how the pro tennis player stacks up against the pro football and pro basketball player in terms of time spent on court. It's a somewhat rudimentary comparison, but I'm curious to know what others think.

Someone also suggested that baseball players should be thrown in the mix since they play 150+ games per year, though baseball seems to lack the element of physicality of the other sports.

Thoughts?

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Moose Malloy

G.O.A.T.
The ball is only in play 8-10 minutes an hour during a tennis match(there have been many studies over the years), so I think you're seriously overrating how much time a tennis player 'plays' his game compared to a basketball player etc.

here is how long a 4 hour tennis match takes to play without players picking their strings, bouncing the ball etc.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=292863


■Plain and simple, football (and to some small extent, basketball) is a contact sport, and that takes a significant toll on the body.

Now that is funny, basketball being a contact sport "to a small extent."
 

seffina

G.O.A.T.
Terrible comparison. Very superficial and without many critical facts...

Exactly. Main problem is comparing an athlete in an individual sport with athletes in team sports. Especially American Football which is far too specialized and the quarterback position is the most specialized of them all. Also, there are only sixteen games played in the NFL regular season. It would take Federer about one slam to put in the same amount of "raw" time as Manning does in an entire season. On top of it you chose the quarterback of an offense that is notorious for having minimal time of possession as other teams deliberately try and keep him on the bench.
 

thirty_forty

New User
Exactly. Main problem is comparing an athlete in an individual sport with athletes in team sports. Especially American Football which is far too specialized and the quarterback position is the most specialized of them all. Also, there are only sixteen games played in the NFL regular season. It would take Federer about one slam to put in the same amount of "raw" time as Manning does in an entire season. On top of it you chose the quarterback of an offense that is notorious for having minimal time of possession as other teams deliberately try and keep him on the bench.

@BobFL: thanks for the constructive feedback. How about some actual thoughts on why you think it's a poor comparison?

@seffina: more constructive. The fact that NFL players only play 16 games is sort of the point: it would seem that they just don't play as much. The purpose of the posting is, as it says, more out of admiration than comparison. But, to your comment about my choice of quarterback -- that's fair. I don't watch much American football at all, so I'd welcome a suggestion for someone you think would be a better comparison. And, to reiterate, I don't claim to be making a true one-to-one comparison -- it's just to get the conversation started.

Also, yes, football is a specialized sport, but all players on the field are exerting themselves at the same time when the ball is in play. The difference is in how they exert themselves (is a football player working "harder" than, say, a lineman? Not sure; he's probably exerting less physical energy but more mental energy). The differences here seem unquantifiable.

@Moose Malloy: thanks for that stat -- that's interesting (and those clips are good). Curious about your chuckle -- basketball is obviously not an actual contact sport in the way that American football is, but compared to tennis, they beat up on each other quite a bit. Soccer would be a similar comparison here -- not an actual contact sport, but you can't deny that those guys beat each other up on the field.
 

thirty_forty

New User
The ball is only in play 8-10 minutes an hour during a tennis match(there have been many studies over the years), so I think you're seriously overrating how much time a tennis player 'plays' his game compared to a basketball player etc.

here is how long a 4 hour tennis match takes to play without players picking their strings, bouncing the ball etc.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=292863




Now that is funny, basketball being a contact sport "to a small extent."

Another thought: I'd be curious to know how many of the 48 minutes in a basketball game elapse while the player holding the ball stands at mid-court or at the top of the key waiting for 15 or 20 seconds for time to run out before actually making a play. To be fair, every sport has its fair share of "down time."
 

abraxas21

Professional
Another thought: I'd be curious to know how many of the 48 minutes in a basketball game elapse while the player holding the ball stands at mid-court or at the top of the key waiting for 15 or 20 seconds for time to run out before actually making a play. To be fair, every sport has its fair share of "down time."

not to mention that NBA matches tend to last for at least 2.5 hours and in that time only 48 min of basketball are played. moreover, in the NBA a player never plays the full 48 minutes as they get constantly changed over by other players as the match goes on.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
The ball is only in play 8-10 minutes an hour during a tennis match(there have been many studies over the years), so I think you're seriously overrating how much time a tennis player 'plays' his game compared to a basketball player etc.

here is how long a 4 hour tennis match takes to play without players picking their strings, bouncing the ball etc.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=292863




Now that is funny, basketball being a contact sport "to a small extent."

But other than the changeovers, other activities are still physical, whether it is bouncing a ball, changing courts after a point, walking to the service line, etc. Especially in the sun or wind, all these activities add up to the energy expenditure. It is quite different in other team sports where players can be substituted, or the player is only gently moving when he doesn't have the ball. In tennis, the players not only have to do the "peripheral" activities, but they are the same ones who are also in contact with the ball.
 

SuperDuy

Hall of Fame
Other athletes make much more money to the amount of tennis players. But tennis is a more prestigious sport I guess.
 

s_andrean

Semi-Pro
Interesting debate.

I'll start off by pay... the top 1000 football (or soccer as you call it in the states...) players in the world are all millionaires, the and if you're below the top 120 or so in tennis, it's hard to make a living.

Tennis players don't really have an off season, most other sports do, the training is intense, they have a much shorted shelf life than most other sports.. most professional careers lasting 10 years or so..

So yeah, I think it's right up there with any sport.
 
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