How likely is Murray to fire Lendl after the USO?

Mainad

Bionic Poster
If Djokovic won the OG, Vero would be singing a different tune. For her, it's all about Djokovic and creating an agenda for him. She used to do the same for Nadal but she's abandoned him. ;)

Yes, I've noticed that she currently seems to worship at the shrine of The Almighty One (sweaty wristbands anyone?) but she's sparing a bit for some of the young guys too (of whom an increasing number seem to be finding favour). ;)
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
Yes, I've noticed that she currently seems to worship at the shrine of The Almighty One (sweaty wristbands anyone?) but she's sparing a bit for some of the young guys too (of whom an increasing number seem to be finding favour). ;)

And she is probably a 40-50 year old woman! That is creepy behavior for a 40-50 year old person to be swooning over a tennis player's sweaty wristband IMO. WTF?

She is just lining up some of the younger players because she knows that Djokovic's decline is probably around the corner, maybe a year away? She'll dump Djokovic too when he can't win as much.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
And she is probably a 40-50 year old woman! That is creepy behavior for a 40-50 year old person to be swooning over a tennis player's sweaty wristband IMO. WTF?

She is just lining up some of the younger players because she knows that Djokovic's decline is probably around the corner, maybe a year away? She'll dump Djokovic too when he can't win as much.

She never seems to have been a fan of Federer though and he's won more than anybody else. Curious that.
 

JonnyMac

Hall of Fame
No offense taken. I actually agree with you. You made me smile today, and it's been a bad day.

As I said, I actually like Murray. But I do think that if he could have controlled himself when the Gong Show started, he might be playing in the SF coming up. ;)

I assume you realize that when I was "talking" to Murray, it was more than ironic and just rhetorical, right? I also talk to God now and then, and I'm an agnostic!


Good stuff Gary ! You've strengthened my faith humanity !

But I'd didn't know you actually speak to the 'The Great' Novak ! - WOW !

Is he such and tw*t in real life ?

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Above - Schlokovic...AKA God:rolleyes:
 

JonnyMac

Hall of Fame
Well, bully for her. But Monica Puig is still basking in the glory of her Olympic gold medal. She doesn't care that she didn't go on to win the USO. All a matter of perspective. That of the players can often be so different to those of us on TTW. ;)

Rubbish Big Nads - All the Top pros tune in here for advise and for accurate perspective.

The whole world of tennis takes TTW very seriously especially those at the top of the game - Everyone knows that ...:rolleyes:

As I was saying to Andy the other day ....
 

ABCD

Hall of Fame
What's really funny is I think some here think the pros are watching TTW. Why do people think the Top Pros OR ANY pros would come this place ???? It's just Hilarious people think the pros give a flying fu8k what we say here. Or care if this place even exists !

I am appalled by your post and disrespect you have shown. You fail to recognise the level of expertise of TTW posters. I assure you that the first thing in the morning ATP players do is reading TTW. Big 4 often look for advice on this board and they develop their playing and life strategies based on what they read here. We all could earn millions by coaching/playing tennis, but we choose not to do that as we are not greedy as those incompetent coaches/pundits we watch on TV.
 

JonnyMac

Hall of Fame
I am appalled by your post and disrespect you have shown. You fail to recognise the level of expertise of TTW posters. I assure you that the first thing in the morning ATP players do is reading TTW. Big 4 often look for advice on this board and they develop their playing and life strategies based on what they read here. We all could earn millions by coaching/playing tennis, but we choose not to do that as we are not greedy as those incompetent coaches/pundits we watch on TV.


OH MY GOD ! - YOU ARE RIGHT !

I've just spoken to Andy, Novak, Rafa, AND Rog ! They call ME for advise every day !
- We have a conference call together most mornings, you know, I help them out with tips and stuff because I know more than they do.
Often Boris or Jonny chip in too.
Lendl thinks I'm a w*anker, so we don't speak....

And they tell me what you say is all true !!!!!

HOW STUPID AM I ? They never me told they all avidly prescribe to TTW !

rafael-nadal-at-the-atp-finals-draw-ceremony-in-london-11.jpg

Above - All my mates,
except the one on the right - He's a sh*t player and I beat him all the time .....
I only beat the others sometimes....Especially the third one from left ! ( He's rubbish too actually ! LOL ! )
 

JonnyMac

Hall of Fame
I am appalled by your post and disrespect you have shown. You fail to recognise the level of expertise of TTW posters. I assure you that the first thing in the morning ATP players do is reading TTW. Big 4 often look for advice on this board and they develop their playing and life strategies based on what they read here. We all could earn millions by coaching/playing tennis, but we choose not to do that as we are not greedy as those incompetent coaches/pundits we watch on TV.


OH MY GOD ! - YOU ARE RIGHT !

I've just spoken to Andy, Novak, Rafa, AND Rog ! They call ME for advise every day !
- We have a conference call together most mornings, you know, I help them out with tips and stuff because I know more than they do.
Often Boris or Jonny chip in too.
Lendl thinks I'm a w*anker, so we don't speak....

And they tell me what you say is all true !!!!!

HOW STUPID AM I ? They never me told they all avidly prescribe to TTW !

rafael-nadal-at-the-atp-finals-draw-ceremony-in-london-11.jpg

Above - All my mates,
except the one on the right - He's a sh*t player and I beat him all the time .....
I only beat the others sometimes....Especially the third one from left ! ( He's rubbish too actually ! LOL ! )
 

DreddyTennis45

Hall of Fame
It may seem stupid scheduling to you but Murray loves playing the Olympics. So do Nadal and Djokovic for that matter. Not playing them was never an option for any of them. Nadal even broke his convalescence for his injured wrist in order to play in Rio. He said he wouldn't have done it for anything else. To the top players, winning Olympic gold is almost better than winning a Slam and some have said it is even better. So if any of them would have had their time all overagain, all of them would still have opted to play in Rio. For them it's a no brainer. They don't worry about how it may affect their chances at the US Open. Their perspective on the Olympics is just completely different to so many of us on here (though not me).

Fair enough then, but I still think Playing them all back-to-back-to-back was an error; I think he should have played Toronto and the Olympics then skipped Cincy to give himself a break before the USO because he hadn't really had one.

He had a curiously topsy turvy US Open this year: dynamic against Rosol, determined against Granollers, passive and uncertain against Lorenzi, beast mode against Dimitrov, beast mode against Nishikori for a set and a half and then suddenly passive and uncertain again. He certainly looked spent, mentally and physically, by the close of the Nishikori match. So it didn't look too promising for the later rounds anyway even if he had come through in that 5th set.

Idk his serve looked quite off in most of the matches; if he had just consolodated a couple of breaks in the Nishikori match for example,I reckon he would have cruised through. But that's the frustrating thing about Murray- he plays some of his best tennis to get the break only for him to get broken in the next game, like we saw in that 5th det against Nishikori. As for it not looking too promising, I don't think that's necessarily true, in pretty much every slam, Murray has that one match where he slips up but manages to recover and make the final, so had he beaten Nishikori I still think he would have reached the final
 
I believe he was at his best level, but couldn't convert his full potential, because Stan was at his 100% which leaves Novak (and everybody else) out of it a lot. You know what I mean.
Lol at this part.
I could make a full argument if you wish,but I will just leave this here
 

junior74

Talk Tennis Guru
Lol at this part.
I could make a full argument if you wish,but I will just leave this here

1) Glad to bring joy and laughter into your life!

2) Don't fool yourself by bringing 2011 Wawrinka into this. He was barely inside top 20 and not close to the player he has been the last three years.

On the other hand, it is not allowed to use "Embryo Djokovic 2008", a GS-winner and ranked #3, in any discussions o_O
 
1) Glad to bring joy and laughter into your life!

2) Don't fool yourself by bringing 2011 Wawrinka into this. He was barely inside top 20 and not close to the player he has been the last three years.

On the other hand, it is not allowed to use "Embryo Djokovic 2008", a GS-winner and ranked #3, in any discussions o_O
I was just trying to use your logic.
Saying Djokovic played his best in the RG final has nothing to back up the claim. He had similar stats to Thiem in the RG semi this year and played passive in the last 2 sets.
Peak Djokovic as shown in the video above has enough game to outplay Stan from the baseline.
Also rankings are not relevant in deciding if a player was good or not
 

disgruntledamsel

Professional
I adored Murray's aggressive game and disciplined demeanor during his last stint with Ivan, but it was inexcusable how he acted during the Kei match. Granted, it was so entertaining that I rewound the gong show at least 10 times, and cry laughed at the Gary Busey pic that someone posted, but let's get real: Andy was on tilt from the very first game. Just after the third point, ESPN zoomed in on his face and he yelled "shut the f up!" Right then, I knew that the Lendl Effect hadn't in fact taken effect yet this go around.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Murray had the best summer out of all players . Won the 2 most important events on calendar so far- Olympics and Wimbledon.

Even if Novak or Stan or Monfils wins USO, nothing can taken away the prestige of the 2 most important titles of the year.

Murray is not becoming a slam count leader, so this
Loss is just part of the learning curve whereas he will always stand alone in history as the only player with 2 OSG
 

JonnyMac

Hall of Fame
Murray had the best summer out of all players . Won the 2 most important events on calendar so far- Olympics and Wimbledon.

Even if Novak or Stan or Monfils wins USO, nothing can taken away the prestige of the 2 most important titles of the year.

Murray is not becoming a slam count leader, so this
Loss is just part of the learning curve whereas he will always stand alone in history as the only player with 2 OSG


Listen idiot - The OLYMPICS IS NOT IMPORTANT - A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME !
DAVIS CUP - IS NOT IMPORTANT - MEANINGLESS LITTLE TOURNAMENT
QUEENS - NOT IMPORTANT

AND

WIMBLEDON - MEANINGLESS LITTLE BRIT TOURNAMENT, OF NO IMPORTANCE WHAT SO EVER - OK !

The Only Important tournament are ones Djokovic wins - OK !

MORON ! :rolleyes: - Sheesh ! The standard of poasting here goes down and down ....:rolleyes:
 

uscwang

Hall of Fame
Lendl stormed off after Murray's US Open exit – Tarango
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04757wz

Interesting.
Andy, don't let that sleeping baldy intimidate you. The summer was yours, not his. You couldn't have possibly done worse if your mom were your coach, when Novak, Fed, Rafa, and Stan were out of your way.

BTW, Tarango, this is not the first time Murray lost since reuniting with Lendl. Cilic beat Murray in straight sets in Cincy.
 
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JonnyMac

Hall of Fame
Lendl stormed off after Murray's US Open exit – Tarango
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04757wz

Interesting.
Andy, don't let that sleeping baldy intimidate you. The summer was yours, not his. You couldn't have possibly done worse if your mom were your coach, when Novak, Fed, Rafa, and Stan were out of your way.

BTW, Tarango, this is not the first time Murray lost since reuniting with Lendl. Cilic beat Murray in straight sets in Cincy.
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Above - Murray waits for post match de brief with Papa Lendl
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Lendl stormed off after Murray's US Open exit – Tarango
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04757wz

Interesting.
Andy, don't let that sleeping baldy intimidate you. The summer was yours, not his. You couldn't have possibly done worse if your mom were your coach, when Novak, Fed, Rafa, and Stan were out of your way.


Not sure if you are re-assuring him here or just being sarcastic but, either way, ....

:)


BTW, Tarango, this is not the first time Murray lost since reuniting with Lendl. Cilic beat Murray in straight sets in Cincy.

Lendl wasn't present in Cincy though.
 

Not sure if you are re-assuring him here or just being sarcastic but, either way, ....

:)




Lendl wasn't present in Cincy though.
No he wasn't neither at the Olympics, as has been said on this thread Murray is a very emotional player, (that's why he loves the Olympics and Davis cup) he always fights in any match but he cannot abide, outside factors that interfere, we have seen it before, the feather, the medical time outs and now the gong.
Lendl influence was never really about his game, it's about teaching Murray to forget what is fair play or not and just go for that Killer instinct, but coming off the Olympics which is all about emotion, and playing for your country, it was probably hard for Lendl to make an impact, Murray is not a young player cocooned in the tennis world,he has status and a life of his own now,
If Lendl thinks he can make a difference with Murray he will stay, he knows that Murray has tools and can go further In his achievements it's all mental.lendl he is not interested in coaching a player like Berydch where the adjustments to his game would be hard work, neither a young up and coming player..it would require to much of his time.
 

sbengte

G.O.A.T.
Nobody needed to coax him. He is an Olympic enthusiast and always has been. Not playing the Olympics is never an option for Andy (so long as he is fit enough to do so). He regards it as one of the greatest experiences of his tennis career. :cool:

Yeah, then he can blame/fire himself :cool:
 
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