How many more majors will Serena win? (imo--NONE)

[BjornBorg]

With her propensity to gain weight, her need for attention out of control, having won one major in 2 1/2 years (which Sharapova completely gave away), with her constant injuries, with not showing any improvement in her game for three years and still making a gizillion errors each match--will she, can she, win another major??

I say she's almost done. She's 23-24 years old---but an old 23-24. Other players are not afraid of her and it's been three years since she's been dominant--truly dominant.

I honestly don't believe she'll ever play another injury free season. To have this many injuries at her age is ridiculous. It shows she's not training properly. I've yet to see her game evolving into a more complete one, given her talents. On court, she's an excellent competitor and I give her props for digging deep and pulling out some great slam victories.

But her actual game itself has not improved. Why she's using that stupid racket is beyond me. She has little finesse and other women have caught up to her in the power department. Since she's slowed a bit movement wise, I don't think we'll ever see her win a slam again.

She's too unfocused, too fat in her legs, boobs, face, etc. She's too sloppy on court. I think she's close to being DONE!!!! Seven majors is a great accomplishment (she's a much better clutch player than Lindsay) but her legacy will also be a player who could have accomplished much more. Her overall number of titles will pale in comparison to the game's all-time greats.

 

[Jack Romeo]

i think you're right. she will come close but injuries and declining confidence will prevent her from winning. it seems to me that her confidence is in large part related to whether or not she can beat venus. it was only in 2002 when she started dominating their head-to-head. what followed was that she became the most dominant player on tour at that time. but her last 2 matches against big sis have been straight set losses. it seems to have diminished her confidence and, add her injury and fitness issues, her play has suffered greatly.

i also see a similarity in her career arc with that of monica seles. seles, if you'll recall, was the most dominant player of the early 90's until her stabbing. when she came back 2-1/2 years later, she immediately won a tier 1 event and reached a grand slam final (1995 us open). then she won the australian open in 1996. people thought she was back at full force, but instead, she suffered injuries and had weight problems. she started losing more and more frequently and, although, she was always a contender at the slams from 1997 to 2002, she never quite put it together anymore. she kept talking about what she needed to do about her fitness but never really got around to actually doing it. then she was finally forced out of the game by more injuries (specifically to her foot) and has not come back since.

like seles, serena was dominating in 2002-early 2003 when she was forced off the tour by knee surgery. i know that it is different from being stabbed, but the point is, something happened to force her off the tour. when she came back, she immediately won a tier 1 (just like monica), then got to the wimbledon finals (losing to sharapova). then just this year, she won the australian open (the same slam that monica last won). then just when you thought everything was going to be alright with her, she starts having more injury problems and her fitness is way below what it used to be. she gets beaten by venus in miami and since then, her confidence has just eroded. she has taken another break now and has said she is working on her conditioning and practicing harder. but i think, like seles, she will not put it all together anymore. something will always come up sooner or later that will prevent her from winning another slam - whether it is a new injury or an early round meeting with venus.

 

[janipyt05]

I think its up to serena if she really would love to get back 2 the top she can. Serena has always been able to do the unpredictable. I mean to win the aus open this year no-one was talking about her becasue she had not done much but there she was walking away with her 7th slam. I feel the reason why she's unfit is because she does not play so she gets injured easily. As for begin to fat all the can be solved. Serena is a champ and if she wants it she can have it back. She does have it in her to win more slams why not its not like she ranked in the twentys or fiftys she only 11 in the world why the worry. Her other interests also take her away from the game plus if she doesn't enjoy it any more she mite see no reason to be there only enough so she does not go into the twentys.

I give serena a great chance of coming back strong in 06' only if she trains hard, plays hard, stays focused and keeps wanting to b in the top 5.

 

[bigserving]

You cannot be serious

Curiosly missing in the nonsense that has posted so far is WHO IS GOING TO BEAT HER. Who is going to be the winner of All of these upcoming majors. That speaks volumes about the level of confidence of what has been written above.

What current player who has a chance to beat Serena, has NOT been injured?

"Serena won't win because Seles didn't win?" Come on.

Serena IS the defending Australian Champion. Serena IS 21 -0 in her last three Australians alone. Who is willing to bet real money straight up (without odds) against ANY other player.

From what we know right know about the current state of tennis, of course she will win several more majors. If you are going to bet against that, you must come with something much stronger, more insightful and intelligent than the crap posted above.

Except Janipty05!

 

[Jack Romeo]

this post is about serena, not about who can beat her. hell, tiantian sun beat her this year!

but since you loud, disrespectful posters asked, here are my answers:
1. venus williams
2. justine henin-hardenne
3. kim clijsters
4. maria sharapova

btw, my post is NOT nonsense and you know it!

 

[tennisjunkiela]

this post is about serena, not about who can beat her. hell, tiantian sun beat her this year!

but since you loud, disrespectful posters asked, here are my answers:
1. venus williams
2. justine henin-hardenne
3. kim clijsters
4. maria sharapova

this post is especially funny considering that, your list of wta players who can beat serena, starts with her sister...

1. the same venus williams who less than 6 months ago was written off by the tennis establishment, as being a "has been". then she wins wimbledon, everyone eats crow, and now she the player at the top of your list to stop serena from winning more grand slams???

2. kim clijsters - i love her but, she has 7 losses and only 1 win against serena. only 1 win in 10 years! as serena says, if she plays just half-way decent, she will beat anyone including an in-form clijsters.

3. justine henin-hardenne - love her too but, she has 5 losses and 3 wins against serena. all 3 of her wins against serena were on clay (justine's best surface and serena's least favorite surface) and in 3 sets. meanwhile, regularly spanks her in straight sets. jhh just doesn't have the firepower to keep up with serena, plus serena will always be extra motivated against jhh because of jhh cheating her at the french. remember, how at wimbledon 3 weeks after the french open incident, serena spanked her 6-1, 6-2 - brutal.

4. sharapova - now of all the players you mentioned, i think she has the best chance against serena, next to venus. but it seems everybody has kind of figured out sharapova's game. she needs more variety so that when her power is just a little off, she can save the ship.

in conclusion, the moral of the story (and we should have all learned it from venus this year at wimbledon) is that, conventional wisdom does not apply to the williams sisters.

they are the only players who can just skip all the warmup tournaments and just show at wimbledon, and win the whole thing (working their way into form as the week goes by). serena didn't even go to australia until about a week before the AO, and just wins it. venus played no grass tournaments leading to wimbledon (after a very bad exit at the french open) and then, just comes to wimbledon and not only wins but dominates the field.

only the williams sisters can do this!

this is the main obvious reason why i think there is so much hatred spewed at them on this board (plus some more subtle issues). serena has already said she will win at least 10 grand slams and luckily for the williams sister, their dad and mom have groomed them to ignore the naysayers and just do it! and they do, despite conventional wisdom.

 

[fantenam08]

If I were a betting woman....

I would NEVER bet that Serena wouldn't win any more major titles. Amusing thread.

 

[BjornBorg]

they are the only players who can just skip all the warmup tournaments and just show at wimbledon, and win the whole thing (working their way into form as the week goes by). serena didn't even go to australia until about a week before the AO, and just wins it. venus played no grass tournaments leading to wimbledon (after a very bad exit at the french open) and then, just comes to wimbledon and not only wins but dominates the field.



huh, Venus did not dominate the field!! It was her first major victory in like four years!!! She had how many match points against her with Davenport--what are you talking about???

 

[tennisjunkiela]

they are the only players who can just skip all the warmup tournaments and just show at wimbledon, and win the whole thing (working their way into form as the week goes by). serena didn't even go to australia until about a week before the AO, and just wins it. venus played no grass tournaments leading to wimbledon (after a very bad exit at the french open) and then, just comes to wimbledon and not only wins but dominates the field.



huh, Venus did not dominate the field!! It was her first major victory in like four years!!! She had how many match points against her with Davenport--what are you talking about???

earth to bjorn borg!
she beat world #1 - lindsey davenport, #2 maria sharapova, #4 - mary pierce. pretty dominating performance considering, the tennis world had her washed up as a "has been"

 

[@wright]

I would like her to win no more slams, since she is the equivalent of a female T.O.(except bigger) to me. I think she'll win a couple more. Heck, she won a slam just this year.

 

[sweetiepiedoll]

What does female T.O. mean? Pardon me, if I am rather slow.

 

[Slazenger]

Toss of the dice really. If we are talking about 'top-of-her-game-mentally-solid-physically-fit-match-ready' Serena, the answer is obvious.

If you are talking about 'injury-laden-not-match-ready-not-so-physically-fit-but-always-mentally-solid' Serena ti's 50/50.

But that's the thing with Signora S.Williams. You don't know what you are going to get and whichever you get can still surprise you.

I personally am waiting for JHH to recover and start kicking major butt in '06and for La Venus to defend her Wimbledon title.

 

[Slazenger]

What does female T.O. mean? Pardon me, if I am rather slow.

Terrell Owens.

 

[BjornBorg]

earth to bjorn borg!
she beat world #1 - lindsey davenport, #2 maria sharapova, #4 - mary pierce. pretty dominating performance considering, the tennis world had her washed up as a "has been"

You dug your own hole by saying she dominated--meaning she easliy beat her opponents--she didn't. she was lucky to win the final.

GRAF dominated--she'd win 6-2,6-2 in many finals. Serena has hardly dominated any player in any match for about 2 years. She's won numerous three set matches.

 

[janipyt05]

Except Janipty05![/QUOTE]bigserving

man i was about to break down and cry thank you :mrgreen:

i dont see why ppl take down serena all players hav a dip in performance. plus she has been injured most of the time. She comes back to play when shes not fully fit that should tell you how much she wants to get back to the top. some love to hate serena but fact is she's good in so many ways. And even if she not favourite u can never count out any williams sister. I mean wimbledon had venus playing on far out courts but scrambled to put her on show courts after her amazing matches. its all about desire. Its been shown over the year they have it.

 

[tennisjunkiela]

You dug your own hole by saying she dominated--meaning she easliy beat her opponents--she didn't. she was lucky to win the final.

GRAF dominated--she'd win 6-2,6-2 in many finals. Serena has hardly dominated any player in any match for about 2 years. She's won numerous three set matches.

earth to bjorn borg - my comments were about venus williams not serena!

i think most people would say that beating 3 of the top 5 players in succession on tennis' biggest stage is pretty impressive! especially considering everyone had written venus off as a has been.

if you actually watched the sharapova match, that was a dominating performance as well as mary pierce.
and for venus to fight off mutiple match points against lindsey was incredible and to prevail in the longest women's match in wimbledon history, what else needs to be said.

 

[killer]

In many ways, slazenger put this question the most succintly in a previous post: Serena's future success is all up to her. In her current condition, her chances of being able to succeed against young, HUNGRY opponents like Sharapova, Henin-hardene and Clijsters, not to mention still willing-and-able women like Davenport and Pierce, is very suspect. These women are fit, strong, emotionally and mentally tough, and all have games that can deal with Serena's former weapon, primarily her power. Couple these women's abilities with Serena's lack of focus in returning her game to its greatness of several years ago and she doesn't really stand a chance.
This past year for Serena was in many ways a bust. True, she did win the AO, showing some grit and determination that hadn't been present in her game for quite a while through 04. However, it seems that she took that victory as an indication that she could once again dominate the sport WITHOUT taking the time off to properly heal from the litany of injuries that plagued her this year. Real or not, injuries were cited by her time and time again through the course of the year as the reason for her lack of success. Most of the tennis world agreed that she was overweight, lacked any real focus, and was allowing her ego to lull her into believing that all she had to do was show up at tournaments to win. Her performance on the court was proof: her movement was sluggish, her endurance was non-existent, and she was contstantly caught hitting awkward, inelegant shots that were testament to her lack of focus on the fundamentals of shot and point production. If she continues playing this way, she won't stand much of a chance in the GS's, or anywhere else.
All of that being said, she did also choose to take some real time off and properly heal from her injuries. It seems as though it took her all year, and a string of unsuccessful GS tournaments to really get it through her head that she's nowhere close to the top of the women's game right now. IF she still has the desire to win, IF she uses the time to heal completely, IF she trains intensely on all parts of her game and looks at the style that other women are using to stay at the top, and IF she holds that damnable ego in check long enough to realize that her reality show was a bust and that she really shouldn't be looking at being a fashion designer until she hangs up her racquet, then i do think she could win 2 more. There's a lot of 'IF's in there, and I don't even like her that much (see 'ridiculous ego'), but she could still win a couple. Bonne chance!

 

[rommil]

I'm not a fan of Serena and I know a lot of people criticize her all the time(valid and inane) but you have to remember that Serena is one of the few players there that has really no relative weakness in her game. She is mentally strong at her best, and when she really wants to win she will never let go of it.Even though with her relatively spotty results and she seemed to be physically not a 100%, I think she can still win Grand Slam titles in the next years. At least one for next year, my guess.

 

[moore than just a gun]

i want to see another fight with her wimbledon rival

vamos