How many points to focus

toth

Hall of Fame
I am fed up, if someone say : focus on legs and focus on elbow and focus on head etc at the same time.
What do you think, on how many points is it possible to maintain focus at the same time?

Thank you for your answer
Toth
 

Dan Huben

Semi-Pro
I’m waiting to get better. Most of the cue coaching is bad because the focus is something uncontrollable

In practice, I feel progressions are the better way to go. Body specific cues. It doesn’t matter what happens to the ball if you keep your head stable other than you kept your head stable and can move to the next cue. String these together over time and you have a stroke.

In matches I don’t think body cues work. I think the tactical cues have to work better. Hit earlier : later. Hit corner corner etc.
ultimately, these tie together the body specific cues practiced.


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pencilcheck

Hall of Fame
Usually the focus will become second nature like how you walk you don’t focus on your balance but you can do it in the back of your head
 

Curious

G.O.A.T.
I was thinking the exact same thing 2 days ago and wondering how likely is it for me to do these 4 things 100% during a match at least for once in my lifetime. Put it as a note on my phone.
Lower yourself
Split step
Don’t look up
Extend off arm

I can actually try it for a set and post the video here.
 
I was thinking the exact same thing 2 days ago and wondering how likely is it for me to do these 4 things 100% during a match at least for once in my lifetime. Put it as a note on my phone.
Lower yourself
Split step
Don’t look up
Extend off arm

I can actually try it for a set and post the video here.


Do you remember learning to drive? Clutch in, select first gear, little throttle, indicate, check mirrors, give way to the right etc etc

Lots of things to remember, but how much thought do you give to them when you drive now? You do it all without thinking but it was overwhelming at first. The thing is you practice these things until they are habitualised then you don't need to think about doing them, they take care of themselves. The key is to practice the right way. For example the most common way to practice serve is with a bucket of balls and to get through them as quickly as possible. Then people wonder why they serve like crap in a match. Really you need two balls, you should practice your pre serve routine -three bounces of the ball or whatever- first serve then second serve if you miss or change sides, catch racquet and split step, maybe even a shadow swing to finish it off. Then when you get out in a match you just follow the same routine exactly. This is the hidden value of the coach, they can track it for you and yell corrections without you having to devote thought to it.
 
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This book....

Should be required reading for any tennis player, maybe any sports player. It's partly credited for creating the idea of sports psychology and the author consulted with NBA teams on free throw improvement etc.

Anyway, if you decide to not read it, biggest point is if you are teaching tennis, tell someone no more than two things to focus on, more importantly tell them a goal, such as hit the ball to the corner over there. The body will figure out a way to make it happen in a natural way that might be particular to each person. More instruction than that, it doesn't help anyone learn. I think it will answer your question and help many areas of your game. This book and "Winning Ugly" are my highest recommended tennis books. Anyone have any others they like?

 

Slash007

Rookie
I believe there is a possibility of you having a communication issue with your couch.

If you accept a suggestion ask him to teach you the proper stroke without words.

Mimic him in front of him or a mirror and have him/or the mirror fix the issues. ( no words allowed)

Repeat without hitting until you get the feel.

And when you try to hit, just focus on the ball seams. Your body will get used to the new movement and execute on its own.

No need to tell yourself to do anything, it takes some time and you some say you probably need some good sleep to consolidate ( I am researching into it right now) ...




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AJvR

Rookie
Max 2 for me, for example with the serve (straight arm + relaxed swing), or groundstrokes (hitting in front of you and follow through).
 

toth

Hall of Fame
I believe there is a possibility of you having a communication issue with your couch.

If you accept a suggestion ask him to teach you the proper stroke without words.

Mimic him in front of him or a mirror and have him/or the mirror fix the issues. ( no words allowed)

Repeat without hitting until you get the feel.

And when you try to hit, just focus on the ball seams. Your body will get used to the new movement and execute on its own.

No need to tell yourself to do anything, it takes some time and you some say you probably need some good sleep to consolidate ( I am researching into it right now) ...




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I like the silent really...
But in this case not the speech disturbs me, but the to many thing i schould focus in the same time.
 

Slash007

Rookie
I like the silent really...
But in this case not the speech disturbs me, but the to many thing i schould focus in the same time.

I was reading inner game of tennis yesterday and I was mimicking their instruction method.

Conventional wisdom say to change one thing at a time. But my personal experience is that it is dangerous as you tend to focus to much and tighten up, but if it is a movement you are really not used to ( like oftentimes pronation on serve) there is not much way around it. Just go slow at first to avoid hurting yourself. It is ok to miss every ball on the first day just to get the feeling and some strengthening and one at a time.

Having said that forehand is a somewhat natural stroke and “a relax and let it go “approach is usually very efficient as long as you have feedback to iron out the kinks. Honestly verbal feedback ins’t great for me personally, I overthink to much.




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toth

Hall of Fame
I was reading inner game of tennis yesterday and I was mimicking their instruction method.

Conventional wisdom say to change one thing at a time. But my personal experience is that it is dangerous as you tend to focus to much and tighten up, but if it is a movement you are really not used to ( like oftentimes pronation on serve) there is not much way around it. Just go slow at first to avoid hurting yourself. It is ok to miss every ball on the first day just to get the feeling and some strengthening and one at a time.

Having said that forehand is a somewhat natural stroke and “a relax and let it go “approach is usually very efficient as long as you have feedback to iron out the kinks. Honestly verbal feedback ins’t great for me personally, I overthink to much.




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Again you guess one of my point: i would to improve my forehand...
 
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