How many times will Federer beat Nadal in 2009?
- Thread starter fps
- Start date
bobbynorwich
New User
The worst outcome would be if they don't ever meet again in 2009. 
anointedone
Banned
They will play 7 more times this year and Federer will win 2 of the 7. One of Federer's wins will be at the TMC. I am not sure where the other will be, but I am hoping it isnt Wimbledon or the U.S Open, but I suppose it could be. Nadal's wins I predict will include Rome final, Madrid final, and the French Open final.
christinamaniac7
Semi-Pro
Zero , Nil , None , 0 , O ,anyway
aceroberts13
Professional
I don't think that Fed will beat Nadal in '09. The FO is out for Fed and I think Nadal can and will gut out a win against Fed if they happen to meet at Wimbledon. Between those two tournaments I don't see them meeting anywhere else where Fed's chances will as good as those to defeat Nadal.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
if fed can get it together mentally, I'm hoping at the wimbledon and Us open if they meet. If he's going to continue to play the way he did during the Aus open finals, unfortunately he might never beat nadal again.
Leublu tennis
Legend
Isn't that the truth. I am not sure Nadal will be in the finals at the USO. And Federer may not make it either.
saram
Legend
Verdasco will take out Roger at Wimbledon--so they won't meet there, either :twisted:
muzza123
Banned
An interviewer asked Nadal if he would let Roger take revenge on the playstation. Nadal replied "not yet! i need more practice".
Playing it low key yet again, given how much Nadal loves playing the playstation...
tennis-hero
Banned
FO :roll:
Wimbledon
US OPEN
TMC
4 times pleeeze
Wimbledon
US OPEN
TMC
4 times pleeeze
federerdomination
Semi-Pro
Depends how many times they play and on what surface(s).
If they played on hard/grass, I would give Federer at least half the wins. Clay is another story...
If they played on hard/grass, I would give Federer at least half the wins. Clay is another story...
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
I think he'll beat him at least once, but we're assuming they will play a lot. In non-Slam tourneys, where it's only best of 3 and the stakes aren't as high, I don't see them both getting to the final of every tourney where they are both playing. Sure, it will happen sometimes, but there is still a lot of other great competition out there who can win in best of 3 sets.
YouCantBeSerious
Banned
Fed will beat Rafa at the USO final. That's it. I also predict Rafa won't cry.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
omg, you're still harping about the crying thing! He did it, its done, get over it. I'm hoping fed beats rafa at wimbledon as well as USO if both get there.
Klippy
Semi-Pro
The worst outcome would be if they don't ever meet again in 2009.
that would seriously be the best outcome. I'm getting sick of the same ol' Feds versus Nadal matches
YouCantBeSerious
Banned
Just lightening things up. I love your signature, by the way.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
haha thanks. I'm sorry to jump on you like that, but with 5000 posts on the matter, it was starting to get to me.
YouCantBeSerious
Banned
To be fair, I have been quite vocal about my disagreement with Fed's tears. I was really disappointed with him, but hopefully he will learn to toughen up a bit for the next time.
FuriousYellow
Professional
I'm hoping they will meet in the Finals of RG and Wimbledon, but especially at the USO.
If Federer wins, then maybe he can salvage some confidence that he can still compete with Nadal.
If Nadal wins, he'll have won all four majors against Federer and his domination will be complete.
If Federer wins, then maybe he can salvage some confidence that he can still compete with Nadal.
If Nadal wins, he'll have won all four majors against Federer and his domination will be complete.
Federer is always confident, it's clear reading his interviews. His problem is that Nadal is now the better player and also a bad matchup for him. Both things are hard for Federer. It's about time you accept reality.
thejoe
Hall of Fame
As soon as he gets on court, the belief goes. You honestly think that Rafa bringing his A-Game would have changed the results at TMC 07 or Wimbledon '06? When he starts to get tentative, he loses. Hate to break it to you, but outside of clay:
Fed top form > Nadal top form
He has more options. Simple.
Get used to it. Long after Laver, Borg and Sampras are forgotten, the story of Roger's tears will be retold to a new generation of tennis players. As an example of "how not to comport oneself."
gj011
Banned
Problem with your logic is that your "top form Federer" from 2006 does not exist any more in 2009 and that Nadal's "A-game" (whatever that means) is different in 2009 than in 2006.
zagor
Bionic Poster
Agree with this,Fed is certainly not as good as he was in 2004-2006(even in the second half of 2007 his movement already started to slightly decline)while Nadal has improved as a player in 2007-2009 period.
P_Agony
Banned
Federer is always confident when he plays Nadal? Huh? Even before the first point is played it's clear to everyone that he doesn't want to be on court, and does not believe he can win. The frist game in the AO final? Remember that? Fed was making stupid errors and was very nervous. Nadal being a bad matchup for him is just a bonus. Until Federer finds a way to deal with this pressure and enjoy the game, he should have no reason to lose for Nadal in every match they meet.
breadstick
Rookie
Well that depends on how many times they play...
I think it's gonna be about 50/50.
Rafa isn't unbeatable and Federer is still playing great tennis...it's just that so is Nadal.
I think it's gonna be about 50/50.
Rafa isn't unbeatable and Federer is still playing great tennis...it's just that so is Nadal.
john whilesmith
Rookie
I don't see Fed beating Nadal again in a major final. Nadal is just so focused and Fed appears either clueless on how to play against him or just too stubborn to change how he plays against him. I'm sure it preys on Fed's mind as well whenever he sees Nadal across the net from him. Fed's short crosscourt backhand slice return of serve may work against other players but certainly does not against Rafa. He needs to be more aggressive on his returns to try to get the upper hand early in the rally.
My 10 cents
My 10 cents
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
Like others have said, it really depends on how much they meet. I don't think they will have as many matches as in the past. There are more players who are potential stumbling blocks to a Fed-Nadal final. That said, we should some Fed-Nadal matchups and I think Fed will win one or two.
But, it the match is in a Slam, it will be interesting to see just how far inside Fed's head Nadal is.
But, it the match is in a Slam, it will be interesting to see just how far inside Fed's head Nadal is.
tahiti
Professional
I have no idea, anything can happen.
One thing though about Fed crying. One shouldn't forget that Fed's coach who died in a car crash in SA in 2005 was Australian & so losing in Oz with the legends and memories is hard. Rafa also cried when he lost Wimbie 2 years ago.... they've involved in the game, we should be happy for that.
One thing though about Fed crying. One shouldn't forget that Fed's coach who died in a car crash in SA in 2005 was Australian & so losing in Oz with the legends and memories is hard. Rafa also cried when he lost Wimbie 2 years ago.... they've involved in the game, we should be happy for that.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Not true. You're not factoring in that Rafa keeps progressing. Rafa HAS BECOME a better player than Fed. He hasn't always been but he is now.
GameSampras
Banned
If If Nadal can stay healthy for the entire season, I wouldnt be surprised if Federer doesnt beat Nadal once. Nadal just played the longest recorded match is AO history and still manages to beat Roger. A surface that Roger should have beaten Nadal on if you go by history. I dont think Roger can beat Nads anywheres. Maybe at the USO. But I still even wonder that myself. When Fed plays Nadal, his confidence goes out the window.
Of course, part of me doesnt think Nadal will last the whole year at 100 percent. Last year was an olympic year though and Nadal Im sure was pretty worn out by USO time, Masters time and didnt even play the YEC. Nadal always seems to dip towards the end of the year. That could be the time Fed does beat Nadal. Well his best chance I think
Of course, part of me doesnt think Nadal will last the whole year at 100 percent. Last year was an olympic year though and Nadal Im sure was pretty worn out by USO time, Masters time and didnt even play the YEC. Nadal always seems to dip towards the end of the year. That could be the time Fed does beat Nadal. Well his best chance I think
Last edited:
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
In slam finals, the USO is Federer's best chance and even there I'm not sure I would put money on him if he had to play Nadal but definitely his best shot.
