in 2020 RG , there 's any chance that rafael nadal dosen 't win ?

[skypadq]

20 RG is where , rafa nadal could won 20 slams

that being tied with federer , both 20 slams

healty nadal in RG is unbeatable

everybody knows

I can only see the Dominic thiem or Novak Djokovic unless there's a second soderling

i don 't think thiem can win agianst nadal at RG

because simply he 's a one hand back hander

history in RG , there 's no one hand backhander beat nadal at RG

roger federer can 't stopped nadal at RG



i think djokvoic had a 1% chance

if nadal is such had a bad day for final , djokovic had a good day for final

stood a chance

but anyway nadal is gonna win



so in 2020 RG , there 's any chance that rafael nadal dosen 't win ?

 

[Otacon]

Rafa won't win.

 

[Sport]

Rafa won't win.

Nadal won't win RG because I don't want Rafa to win RG.

 

[Otacon]

Nadal won't win RG because I don't want Rafa to win RG.

No seriously, I think Thiem is ready.

 

[Sport]

No seriously, I think Thiem is ready.

I also think Thiem has a solid chance to beat Rafa at RG, but to say "Nadal won't win" is more a wish than a logico-methodological prediction based on previous experience.

 

[Fridge]

I can only see the Dominic thiem or Novak Djokovic unless there's a second soderling
i don 't think thiem can win agianst nadal at RG

So yes or no on theim cuz you gave two answers but are only allowed one

 

[RS]

Lowest chance of him winning from 2005 to 2020 apart from 2015-16 imo. Still a slight to medium favourite.

 

[toth]

Lowest chance of him winning from 2005 to 2020 apart from 2015-16 imo. Still a slight to medium favourite.

I hope Thiem has a chance.
Nadal is getting older too.

 

[xFedal]

Is thiem vs Rafa French Open Semi Final possible? .... No .1 seed Nole vs Federer in french Open Semi and Nadal no.2 vs NO.4 Thiem in semis?

 

[James P]

Mark it down. Rafa is not winning the 2020 French Open.

 

[Sport]

Is thiem vs Rafa French Open Semi Final possible? .... No .1 seed Nole vs Federer in french Open Semi and Nadal no.2 vs NO.4 Thiem in semis?

Yes, it is perfectly possible. Most likely, Federer won't be #3 by the time RG arrives, as Thiem is very likely to reach the #3 before RG starts. But anyway, if I am not mistaken, the #2 seeded can face either the #3 or the #4.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Draw will determine a lot. If he has to go through Thiem and Djokovic in succession then maybe. Even then he’s still the favourite but it’s more open then.

 

[xFedal]

Yes, it is perfectly possible. Most likely, Federer won't be #3 by the time RG arrives, as Thiem is very likely to reach the #3 before RG starts. But anyway, if I am not mistaken, the #2 seeded can face either the #3 or the #4.

Thiem is defending Indian wells and he won't win it again...

 

[xFedal]

Draw will determine a lot. If he has to go through Thiem and Djokovic in succession then maybe. Even then he’s still the favourite but it’s more open then.

Hopefully Nadal draws thiem in semi and Novak Draws Fed in Semi.... lets reverse what happened last year.

 

[MeatTornado]

Thiem is defending Indian wells and he won't win it again...

He also has a ton of points on the table to grab. He lost his next match in Miami iirc. And I don't think he made a single final during the Masters clay season.

Fed meanwhile is defending W-F-W at Dubai-IW-Miami and all his Mad/Rome QF points will drop.

 

[UnforcedTerror]

He's 99% winning RG once again . Thiem had to rely on tiebreaks luck to beat Dull on HC so yeah no chance for him to do any damage on PC sadly.

Djokovic is the only one who can beat Dull there but he'll probably lose to RBA or some mug before the final.

 

[Sport]

Thiem is defending Indian wells and he won't win it again...

Thiem can win it again, why not? And Federer is defending the Miami title, which he is unlikely to defend given his advanced age. Federer also defends the Indian Wells final and the Dubai title, which is yet to be seen whether he will defend it.

Even more important, last year Federer participated in Madrid and Rome and this year he will skip both tournaments.

Fact is, Thiem is only 85 points behind Federer. Most likely, Federer will arrive to RG being #4, but of course everything can happen and he may retain the #3.

 

[Sport]

He's 99% winning RG once again . Thiem had to rely on tiebreaks luck to beat Dull on HC so yeah no chance for him to do any damage on PC sadly.

Djokovic is the only one who can beat Dull there but he'll probably lose to RBA or some mug before the final.

Thiem has more chances IMO. Thiem has the age advantage over Rafa (he is 7 years younger), Djokovic has no age advantage or any advantage for that matter against Rafa on clay.

 

[UnforcedTerror]

Hopefully Nadal draws thiem in semi and Novak Draws Fed in Semi.... lets reverse what happened last year.

Hey yo, that's me. Nice to meet yo.

That would be a perfect SF actually. let's hope my friend.

 

[MeatTornado]

Thiem has more chances IMO. Thiem has the age advantage over Rafa (he is 7 years younger), Djokovic has no age advantage or any advantage for that matter against Rafa on clay.

Novak is 353 days younger than Nadal.

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[UnforcedTerror]

Thiem has more chances IMO. Thiem has the age advantage over Rafa (he is 7 years younger), Djokovic has no age advantage or any advantage for that matter against Rafa on clay.

Not really. Thiem is hopeless against RAFA there. I mean he barely beat him at AO so good luck with that at RG.

Djokovic is a different beast compared to Thiem, Djokovic's got the mind and heart of a champion, and the Bull himself knows it. He would choose to play Thiem over Djokovic every single time, even on clay.

 

[Sport]

Not really. Thiem is hopeless against RAFA there. I mean he barely beat him at AO so good luck with that at RG.

Djokovic is a different beast compared to Thiem, Djokovic's got the mind and heart of a champion, and the Bull himself knows it. He would choose to play Thiem over Djokovic every single time, even on clay.

I don't think so.

P. S.: Thiem is a natural clay court player, and clay is his best surface by far. If he was able to do defeat Nadal at the AO and almost beat Djokovic, it is scary to think what he can bring at RG.

 

[UnforcedTerror]

I don't think so.

P. S.: Thiem is a natural clay court player, and clay is his best surface by far. If he was able to do defeat Nadal at the AO and almost beat Djokovic, it is scary to think what he can bring at RG.

Lol man I already mentioned that Djokovic will probably lose to RBA or some mug before the final, yet you post a match between Djokovic/Thiem? Of course Thiem can beat Djokovic. That doesn't mean in any way that he has better chance than Djokovic to beat Bull on PC. It's like saying Fed had better chance than Djokovic to beat RAFA in RG2011 final just because Fed beat Djokovic in the SF!

 

[Sport]

Lol man I already mentioned that Djokovic will probably lose to RBA or some mug before the final, yet you post a match between Djokovic/Thiem? Of course Thiem can beat Djokovic. That doesn't mean in any way that he has better chance than Djokovic to beat Bull on PC. It's like saying Fed had better chance than Djokovic to beat RAFA in RG2011 final just because Fed beat Djokovic in the SF!

Very bad analogy. Federer at RG 2011 was older than Nadal, while Thiem at RG is 7 years younger than Rafa. Thiem has a crucial advantage over Djokovic: youth. The times of Djokovic being Nadal's main rival at RG are over.

 

[UnforcedTerror]

Very bad analogy. Federer at RG 2011 was older than Nadal, while Thiem at RG is 7 years younger than Rafa. Thiem has a crucial advantage over Djokovic: youth. The times of Djokovic being Nadal's main rival at RG are over.

Oh GOD, I'm done with you. It's "youth" that all what matters, right??

Well then Bull should start kicking the old man's butt instead of getting humiliated on court time after time. I mean why not? He has the crucial advantage of YOUTH. Lol.

 

[skypadq]

no way thiem could beat nadal at RG
one hand backhander can 't beat nadal at RG
thiem can 't handle nadal 's high top spin forehand

 

[The Guru]

Very bad analogy. Federer at RG 2011 was older than Nadal, while Thiem at RG is 7 years younger than Rafa. Thiem has a crucial advantage over Djokovic: youth. The times of Djokovic being Nadal's main rival at RG are over.

I think it's way to early to say that. Novak performed well in the clay masters (better than Thiem) and lost a 5 set match to Thiem under very weird conditions in last years semi. Djokovic also matches up better with Rafa than Thiem does. Novak also has a big mental edge whereas Thiem has a big mental disadvantage. We'll see when RG rolls around but I wouldn't be surprised if Novak plays Rafa closer than Thiem does on PC if it's Thiem in the SF and Novak in the final.

 

[SonnyT]

Of course there's a chance, because he won't!

 

[Sport]

I think it's way to early to say that. Novak performed well in the clay masters (better than Thiem) and lost a 5 set match to Thiem under very weird conditions in last years semi. Djokovic also matches up better with Rafa than Thiem does. Novak also has a big mental edge whereas Thiem has a big mental disadvantage. We'll see when RG rolls around but I wouldn't be surprised if Novak plays Rafa closer than Thiem does on PC if it's Thiem in the SF and Novak in the final.

Not on clay anymore. Since 2017, Thiem has defeated Nadal 3 times on clay, Djokovic 0.

Thiem has also gone deeper than Novak at RG since 2017. Thiem is nowadays a stronger RG player than Djokovic until proven otherwise.

 

[Sport]

no way thiem could beat nadal at RG
one hand backhander can 't beat nadal at RG
thiem can 't handle nadal 's high top spin forehand

In fact, he can. Thiem has the best one-handed backhand I ever saw. He combines perfectly the slice with flat backhand winners. If all players had a one-handed backhand as good as Thiem's one, having a two-handed backhand would not be an advantage against high topspin.

 

[CYGS]

Does grammar matter to anybody any more? Or we should ban posting while drunk?

 

[zagor]

Very bad analogy. Federer at RG 2011 was older than Nadal, while Thiem at RG is 7 years younger than Rafa. Thiem has a crucial advantage over Djokovic: youth. The times of Djokovic being Nadal's main rival at RG are over.

Thiem has indeed been a clear #2 on clay for the past several seasons, especially at FO where he's extremely consistent. He also improved overall as a player and finally got a slam win over Nadal just this AO.

That said, Novak is still a much better big match player. If Nadal has an off day at the FO Novak will take advantage while Thiem will most likely get tight.

In short I'd take Thiem over Novak against the field at the FO but when it comes to actually beating Nadal, I'd say it's a close call between them.

 

[zagor]

no way thiem could beat nadal at RG
one hand backhander can 't beat nadal at RG
thiem can 't handle nadal 's high top spin forehand

Even two-handers have trouble with Nadal's spin at the FO, Novak included.

Thiem can handle Nadal's rally ball on clay better than most players on tour.

 

[zagor]

Lowest chance of him winning from 2005 to 2020 apart from 2015-16 imo. Still a slight to medium favourite.

Medium is under-selling him IMO, even at this stage of his career. Rafa's still a clear favourite for the title, just not a shoe in to win like he was in the past.

Even if he had to beat Thiem and Novak back-to-back to win the French, I'd still bet on him.

 

[The Guru]

Not on clay anymore. Since 2017, Thiem has defeated Nadal 3 times on clay, Djokovic 0.

Thiem has also gone deeper than Novak at RG since 2017. Thiem is nowadays a stronger RG player than Djokovic until proven otherwise.

You're confusing matchup with level. Thiem's level on clay was way higher in 17 and 18 so he was able to beat Nadal whereas Djokovic was crap so his matchup advantage didn't matter. Also saying Thiem has won more is skewed because he's played him many more times. Djokovic has only been himself for one clay season the last 3 years: 2019. In 2019 who was better on clay Djokovic or Thiem? You may disagree but I would say Djokovic. I think you're naive if you think Djokovic will drop off the map and the clay season will be the Thiem and Nadal show. Again we'll see but my guess is we see a Djokovic Nadal final regardless of who draws Thiem and it will be a close win for Nadal.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Not sure, lol.

I want Novak to play well and not lose to a chump, that's all. Thiem/Stan is okay, hopefully he doesn't lose to Zverev.

 

[Sudacafan]

Raffa is winning the RG GS contest. This is what I think.

 

[junior74]

The annual French moon ball festival will once again be won by Rafa.

Thiem is too weak when it matters.

 

[weakera]

With every passing year at this point there is a better chance he doesn't win. And as much as I want to believe the roof/balls wont matter, they might matter.

 

[junior74]

With every passing tear at this point there is a better chance he doesn't win.

doesn't seem to help

 

[guitarra]

Rafa’s still heavy favourite but it’s too early to say he’ll win or he won’t. For me the chances are c.a.:
1) Rafa - 50%
2) Dominic - 20%
3) Novak - 20%
4) rest of the field - 10%

 

[Hitman]

Rafa’s still heavy favourite but it’s too early to say he’ll win or he won’t. For me the chances are c.a.:
1) Rafa - 50%
2) Dominic - 20%
3) Novak - 20%
4) rest of the field - 10%

10% for the rest of the field? For me that is a little generous, I would probably give 5% myself.

 

[guitarra]

10% for the rest of the field? For me that is a little generous, I would probably give 5% myself.

You think so? Well it’s still 125 players featuring such as: Medvedev, Tsitsipas, Wawrinka, Federer and others... I actually think the bookies might give around 10% to „the field”.

 

[ChrisRF]

In short I'd take Thiem over Novak against the field at the FO but when it comes to actually beating Nadal, I'd say it's a close call between them.

I would take Djokovic over Thiem in both beating the field and potentially beating Nadal.

However, in a direct encounter between Djokovic and Thiem it’s 50/50, if not even a slight advantage for Thiem again.

 

[ewiewp]

20 RG is where , rafa nadal could won 20 slams

that being tied with federer , both 20 slams

healty nadal in RG is unbeatable

everybody knows

I can only see the Dominic thiem or Novak Djokovic unless there's a second soderling

i don 't think thiem can win agianst nadal at RG

because simply he 's a one hand back hander

history in RG , there 's no one hand backhander beat nadal at RG

roger federer can 't stopped nadal at RG



i think djokvoic had a 1% chance

if nadal is such had a bad day for final , djokovic had a good day for final

stood a chance

but anyway nadal is gonna win



so in 2020 RG , there 's any chance that rafael nadal dosen 't win ?

If I were Rafa, I would be sick and tired of winning at RG by now, no ?
I mean if I lose to Novak or Thiem, then maybe my motivation might be boosted again a bit, no?