Interesting Article "Why I Don’t Like to See Nadal At #1"

[BreakPoint]

too bad we dont use wood racquets and nadal is number 1, cry a river and deal with it

So then you admit that Nadal is #1 partly because of his modern racquet and strings and that he'd be a lesser player without them? OK, I see.

 

[Pirao]

Umm...hello? I guess English in not your best language? "Both ways" means some people may think Gasquet is not that important while others may think Nadal is not that important. "It goes both ways."

Yes I understood it perfectly, thanks for your concern .

 

[BreakPoint]

you wouldn't happen to dislike Nadal's game play because he beats you're favorite player regularly and makes him look a bit ordinary in the process would you?.:shock:

Um...people who don't like Nadal's game don't like his game regardless of who he's playing against. In fact, it's always the same. People have been disliking Nadal's game ever since when he first came on the tour and was ranked #50 and Federer was ranked #1. It's the way he plays, not who he beats.

 

[BreakPoint]

Yes I understood it perfectly, thanks for your concern .

Well, obviously you didn't because you thought I said Gasquet is more important than Nadal.

 

[TBobLP]

...still waiting for the ATP to make that wooden racket announcement...

 

[Pirao]

Well, obviously you didn't because you thought I said Gasquet is more important than Nadal.

Really, could you point the post where I said it? I said you implied it in your post, which you did, your true colours can be seen from miles away :lol:.

 

[BreakPoint]

Does BP have a man purse and wear pants backwards?

You sound jealous. Would you like to have a man purse, too?

 

[BreakPoint]

Really, could you point the post where I said it? I said you implied it in your post, which you did, your true colours can be seen from miles away :lol:.

I implied no such thing. It was a gross failure in your reading comprehension. Either that or you have quite an imagination. :-?

 

[Pirao]

I implied no such thing. It was a gross failure in your reading comprehension. Either that or you have quite an imagination. :-?

Yes, yes, that you also bash Nadal in nearly every post is also a thing of my imagination, along with most other good posters imagination. We have quite a collective imagination, don't you think?

 

[Deleted member 3771]

That's hilarious.

It was a gradual decline in BP's sanity:

2004: "The kid got a lucky break and caught the All Mighty on one of his rare off-days. Props on timing and cherish that win because it won't happen again."

2005: "Hmmm, so the little *******o is pretty good on clay. Allright, allright, but the All Mighty will soon figure you out."

2006: "What did I tell ya?! The All Mighty prevails on the dirt! Sure it wasn't a win at the big one, but it's a start. And he stills rules supreme on everything else. But just out of curiousity, what kind of racquet is that?"

2007: "Okay, fudge it, he can have clay. But your spinny banana racquet ain't ever gonna do **** on grass and hard. No siree bob.

2008-09: "MOTHER#@#$##BABOLAT)#$%I$POLY$#(#$BANNED#$%^WOODEN RACQUETS)#@$GOBBLEGOBBLE GOBBLE!%^$###!

 

[Deleted member 3771]

what people, you and your pet hampster?

Um...people who don't like Nadal's game don't like his game regardless of who he's playing against. In fact, it's always the same. People have been disliking Nadal's game ever since when he first came on the tour and was ranked #50 and Federer was ranked #1. It's the way he plays, not who he beats.

 

[The-Champ]

Cover? Get real. You can't come up with a logical argument of how steroids are any different than equipment in enhancing performance so you resort to blaming Federer's ranking? Who cares about his ranking? Pretty weak. :-?

Why aren't steroids the natural evolution of performance enhancement?

BTW, there's nothing "natural" about graphite fiber/hypercarbon/karophite/kevlar/cortex. etc. racquets nor poly strings. Wood and gut are "natural".

Your's is a brilliant idea. Let's legalize steroids so that every 10-year old out there can enhance their games, and have healthy long lives. There is no difference between rackets and steroids, you are so right.

 

[veroniquem]

Your's is a brilliant idea. Let's legalize steroids so that every 10-year old out there can enhance their games, and have healthy long lives. There is no difference between rackets and steroids, you are so right.

There is no difference between steroids and racquets? :shock:
This thread has degenerated a lot, BP is getting worse and worse... Well what can one expect with a thread title like this one?

 

[BounceHitBounceHit]

Nadal is a MASTER at forcing errors. He has perfected this style of play. Kudos to Nadal! He has earned and deserves his #1 ranking. BUT, I don't think we've heard the last from Federer. Maybe not even the last at Roland Garros. And CERTAINLY not the last at Wimbledon. Should be an interesting summer.

 

[Serve_Ace]

Can we all calm down

 

[BreakPoint]

Your's is a brilliant idea. Let's legalize steroids so that every 10-year old out there can enhance their games, and have healthy long lives. There is no difference between rackets and steroids, you are so right.

I have a better idea. Let's not ban super light and stiff racquets like Babolats and poly strings so that 10-year olds will eventually ruin their arms and cut short their tennis playing lives.

Besides, how many 10-year olds will ever be able to become a professional athlete, let alone become super rich in life like Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez, or Manny Ramirez? Sure beats working at the local Wal-Mart, right?

Both steriods and modern racquets and strings enhance your performance that was not there naturally and both will eventually be detrimental to your health. If you ban one, I don't see why you wouldn't ban the other.

 

[Mick]

BP, have you ever played with the babolat apdc ? It's a very nice racquet

 

[BreakPoint]

BP, have you ever played with the babolat apdc ? It's a very nice racquet

Yes, I have. Too light and too stiff for my tastes and it hurt my elbow.

 

[Blade0324]

Yes, I have. Too light and too stiff for my tastes and it hurt my elbow.

That's because you have the elbow of a 10 year old girl. Sissy!

 

[TBobLP]

just want to say that I love my APD and full poly set-up!

 

[Deleted member 3771]

It doesn't enhance your favorite players performance enough

I have a better idea. Let's not ban super light and stiff racquets like Babolats and poly strings so that 10-year olds will eventually ruin their arms and cut short their tennis playing lives.

Besides, how many 10-year olds will ever be able to become a professional athlete, let alone become super rich in life like Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez, or Manny Ramirez? Sure beats working at the local Wal-Mart, right?

Both steriods and modern racquets and strings enhance your performance that was not there naturally and both will eventually be detrimental to your health. If you ban one, I don't see why you wouldn't ban the other.

 

[obsessedtennisfandisorder]

Well, the OP is opinion...so that's that.

Whether BP is trying to get at nadal or not, an interesting point was raised.

Are there any limits on racquet technology now?

ITF: http://tennisclub.gsfc.nasa.gov/ITFrules.pdf


talk tennisexample racquet)

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/archive/index.php/t-90246.html

 

[Sentinel]

It was a gradual decline in BP's sanity:

2004: "The kid got a lucky break and caught the All Mighty on one of his rare off-days. Props on timing and cherish that win because it won't happen again."

2005: "Hmmm, so the little *******o is pretty good on clay. Allright, allright, but the All Mighty will soon figure you out."

2006: "What did I tell ya?! The All Mighty prevails on the dirt! Sure it wasn't a win at the big one, but it's a start. And he stills rules supreme on everything else. But just out of curiousity, what kind of racquet is that?"

2007: "Okay, fudge it, he can have clay. But your spinny banana racquet ain't ever gonna do **** on grass and hard. No siree bob.

2008-09: "MOTHER#@#$##BABOLAT)#$%I$POLY$#(#$BANNED#$%^WOODEN RACQUETS)#@$GOBBLEGOBBLE GOBBLE!%^$###!

rotf !

exquisite , but you forgot the 129,349,999 posts regarding mononucleosis !!!!!

 

[BreakPoint]

That's because you have the elbow of a 10 year old girl. Sissy!

Thanks for making my point that these racquets and strings should be banned to keep 10-year olds away from them, just like with steroids, since they both destroy bodies.

 

[BreakPoint]

just want to say that I love my APD and full poly set-up!

Until your arm falls off, that is. :shock:

 

[The-Champ]

Thanks for making my point that these racquets and strings should be banned to keep 10-year olds away from them, just like with steroids, since they both destroy bodies.

Weren't ancient rackets heavier though, and therefore would cause more injuries to a 10-year old arm?

 

[LurkingGod]

Both steriods and modern racquets and strings enhance your performance that was not there naturally and both will eventually be detrimental to your health. If you ban one, I don't see why you wouldn't ban the other.

Wow.. I've never realised using modern racquets and strings could be life-threatening comparable to using steriods. Maybe you should spread your eye-opening knowledge around by writing an article or starting a petition. Time to stop evil racquets from doing any more harm to innocent mankind.

 

[veroniquem]

Wow.. I've never realised using modern racquets and strings could be life-threatening comparable to using steriods. Maybe you should spread your eye-opening knowledge around by writing an article or starting a petition. Time to stop evil racquets from doing any more harm to innocent mankind.

I think Fed should use an evil racquet just to win 1 RG and then he could go back to his relatively harmless one...

 

[LurkingGod]

I think Fed should use an evil racquet just to win 1 RG and then he could go back to his relatively harmless one...

Maybe that evil racquet would make him a lefty and hit with evil top spin. It might even give him some evil bicepts..:twisted:

 

[BreakPoint]

Weren't ancient rackets heavier though, and therefore would cause more injuries to a 10-year old arm?

Newsflash - Heavier racquets are BETTER for the arm and always have been. It's the light racquets that destroy elbows. That's why most people who get tennis elbow from using light and stiff racquets switch to heavier and more flexy racquets (just like wood racquets were both heavy and flexy) to alleviate their tennis elbow.

Besides, juniors could also choose to use junior sized wood racquets.

 

[BreakPoint]

Wow.. I've never realised using modern racquets and strings could be life-threatening comparable to using steriods. Maybe you should spread your eye-opening knowledge around by writing an article or starting a petition. Time to stop evil racquets from doing any more harm to innocent mankind.

Seriously, if steroids were really life-threatening to everyone who takes them, do you seriously think so many people would be taking them?

Isn't the performance enhancing aspect of steroids the main reason why they're banned from pro sports? Or else, why do they refer to it as "cheating"? Is committing suicide "cheating"?

 

[The-Champ]

Newsflash - Heavier racquets are BETTER for the arm and always have been. It's the light racquets that destroy elbows. That's why most people who get tennis elbow from using light and stiff racquets switch to heavier and more flexy racquets (just like wood racquets were both heavy and flexy) to alleviate their tennis elbow.

Besides, juniors could also choose to use junior sized wood racquets.

So basically, the heavier the racket is, the better it is for the arm?

 

[BreakPoint]

So basically, the heavier the racket is, the better it is for the arm?

Within reason. I mean a 5 pound racquet wouldn't be good because you won't be able to swing it. But in general, heavier is better than lighter when it comes to arm safety because heavier racquets absorb more shock and vibration and they get their power more from the weight of the racquet rather than from the stiffness. You can swing a heavier racquet slower and still impart the same momentum to the ball as swinging a lighter racquet faster, thus, a heavier racquet is doing more of the work for you and putting less stress on our elbow.

 

[ignigena]

Not if their millionaires. Most only do it for economic reasons as it's cheaper for 10 people to live in the same house.

ten people in a spanish house?, do you think thats usual in Spain?

You really have NO idea of what you are talking about boy.

Spain has had the lower birth rate of europe for lot of years, and the families are really small. Spanish houses, historically, are made of reliable materials and, because of that, they are expensive. With the increasing low interest rates of the last 15 years, there has been developed a culture of go out the house of your family very very late in your life. Thats not something anyone would like but because in Spain nearly no one rent houses, people go out of the houses of their parents at, right now, an average of 31 years!.

This is not the case of Nadal, Nadal is a man that wants to keep their feet to the ground, so he does what their all life friends do, and you should be aware that what you so easily call moomy's boy, is what has allowed him to keep working and improving, while top stars of the field just crumble in their own self-satisfaction. I think that you have to be much more brabe and be able to work much more to do what Nadals do. If you dont find inside yourself the RESPECT that he deserves for that, I suggest you at least dont say offensive things.

 

[ignigena]

Um...being a millionaire and still can't bear to live away from your mother? How embarrassing is that? "Momma's Boy" much?

How many millionaires choose to still live in their mother's house? Would you?

the only embarrasing thing here is your lack of arguments and your willing to diminish the value of hard work and humility, in a family of true fighters.

 

[BreakPoint]

the only embarrasing thing here is your lack of arguments and your willing to diminish the value of hard work and humility, in a family of true fighters.

Which is why Dutch_Guy shouldn't have made fun of people who still live in their mother's houses in defending Nadal by accusing the writer of the article of doing so. He had no idea that Nadal also still lives in his mother's house. He thought he was slamming the writer when in fact he was slamming Nadal at the same time for doing the same thing. How embarrassing.

 

[ignigena]

Which is why Dutch_Guy shouldn't have made fun of people who still live in their mother's houses in defending Nadal by accusing the writer of the article of doing so. He had no idea that Nadal also still lives in his mother's house. He thought he was slamming the writer when in fact he was slamming Nadal at the same time for doing the same thing. How embarrassing.

So you agree that is something incredible lame to do, and you decide that you are going to do it with the profesional tennis player who deserves the admiration of that fan, and many others, and even suggesting that is even worse because he have money and that changes it all.

You certainly looks very mature and unbiased, boy.

And make me a favor, Take your ignorant comments about cultures and countries you simply know nothing about out of the ecuation. Shame on you.

 

[Dutch-Guy]

Which is why Dutch_Guy shouldn't have made fun of people who still live in their mother's houses in defending Nadal by accusing the writer of the article of doing so. He had no idea that Nadal also still lives in his mother's house. He thought he was slamming the writer when in fact he was slamming Nadal at the same time for doing the same thing. How embarrassing.

I thought i made it clear to you the last time but apperently you didn't get it.So here we go again:Nadal lives in his mom's house coz he's a family oriented guy,not coz he has to,unlike the author of that bullsh!t.Come Break Point,Nadal being a multi millionaire can live wherever he wants to.

 

[Pirao]

Which is why Dutch_Guy shouldn't have made fun of people who still live in their mother's houses in defending Nadal by accusing the writer of the article of doing so. He had no idea that Nadal also still lives in his mother's house. He thought he was slamming the writer when in fact he was slamming Nadal at the same time for doing the same thing. How embarrassing.

You then ridiculed it too, so don't try to act like you're innocent. You're still a troll who diverts attention when you get owned.

 

[Dutch-Guy]

You then ridiculed it too, so don't try to act like you're innocent. You're still a troll who diverts attention when you get owned.

Don't even bother.Break Point is a broken record.His main mission here is to hijack and derail Nadal's threads.

 

[Ronny]

Until your arm falls off, that is. :shock:

my arm doesnt hurt a bit from using pds or apds. not everyone has elbow pain

 

[Ronny]

It was a gradual decline in BP's sanity:

2004: "The kid got a lucky break and caught the All Mighty on one of his rare off-days. Props on timing and cherish that win because it won't happen again."

2005: "Hmmm, so the little *******o is pretty good on clay. Allright, allright, but the All Mighty will soon figure you out."

2006: "What did I tell ya?! The All Mighty prevails on the dirt! Sure it wasn't a win at the big one, but it's a start. And he stills rules supreme on everything else. But just out of curiousity, what kind of racquet is that?"

2007: "Okay, fudge it, he can have clay. But your spinny banana racquet ain't ever gonna do **** on grass and hard. No siree bob.

2008-09: "MOTHER#@#$##BABOLAT)#$%I$POLY$#(#$BANNED#$%^WOODEN RACQUETS)#@$GOBBLEGOBBLE GOBBLE!%^$###!

post of the thread lol

 

[Flawless]

That isn't even an article, it's just some blog. The whole blog is just a piece of cheap garbage.
The guy who runs it is completely limited. The funniest part is he has now deleted those comments that proved him wrong and is letting only those that agree with him. :lol::lol::lol:

He lacks a certain knowledge of tennis fundamentals, such as the difference between clay court and hard court.

In the end, any fool can find some numbers to prove their imaginary points, like that joke with counting "neutralising" shots wtf :lol:

 

[Flawless]

I don't agree with the assessment of Nadal routine forehands being "just a neutralizing shot."

Those balls seem awfully heavy and the other guy sweats his ass off to return them with enough depth and placement, you see how Nadal is inexorably pushing his opponent to his left side until he can run around a short ball and hit an inside-out forehand. Is a bit like a sumo fighter slowly pushing his opponent out of the ring: not as flashy as a roundhouse kick, but aggressive all the same.

The fact that they are not whistling flat winners don't make them less offensive, you are equally struggling to put them back on court.

The so-called "article" is just an obvious fanboy rant. Fair enough if you don't find that kind of aggression aesthetically pleasing, but don't misconstrue it for what it is not.

This!

as I said, completely innacurate.

 

[NamRanger]

Weren't ancient rackets heavier though, and therefore would cause more injuries to a 10-year old arm?

They were more flexible. Babolat racquets have an RDC rating of 70 or above (most of them). Wood racquets had a RDC rating of somwhere in the 40 range, which meant it was VERY flexible.


More flex + Mass = arm friendly racquet.

 

[Blade0324]

Thanks for making my point that these racquets and strings should be banned to keep 10-year olds away from them, just like with steroids, since they both destroy bodies.

I won't argue with you about steroids, they are bad and should not be allowed in any sport.
However racquets and strings are a completely different story. The racquets and strings today don't destroy body's. Elbow, shoulder, wrist problems stem from flaws with technique not the racquet and strings. If something bothers your elbow perhaps you should have a look in the mirror and at your technique instead of blaming the equipment.
Tons and tons of people, including pros hit with all different modern racquets and strings with no problems at all.

 

[Blade0324]

Within reason. I mean a 5 pound racquet wouldn't be good because you won't be able to swing it. But in general, heavier is better than lighter when it comes to arm safety because heavier racquets absorb more shock and vibration and they get their power more from the weight of the racquet rather than from the stiffness. You can swing a heavier racquet slower and still impart the same momentum to the ball as swinging a lighter racquet faster, thus, a heavier racquet is doing more of the work for you and putting less stress on our elbow.

So based on your ideas here then heavier racquets should be banned because using one would be cheating since it's doing a lot of the work for you. :shock:

 

[Iced_jacob]

ten people in a spanish house?, do you think thats usual in Spain?

You really have NO idea of what you are talking about boy.

Spain has had the lower birth rate of europe for lot of years, and the families are really small. Spanish houses, historically, are made of reliable materials and, because of that, they are expensive. With the increasing low interest rates of the last 15 years, there has been developed a culture of go out the house of your family very very late in your life. Thats not something anyone would like but because in Spain nearly no one rent houses, people go out of the houses of their parents at, right now, an average of 31 years!.

This is not the case of Nadal, Nadal is a man that wants to keep their feet to the ground, so he does what their all life friends do, and you should be aware that what you so easily call moomy's boy, is what has allowed him to keep working and improving, while top stars of the field just crumble in their own self-satisfaction. I think that you have to be much more brabe and be able to work much more to do what Nadals do. If you dont find inside yourself the RESPECT that he deserves for that, I suggest you at least dont say offensive things.

That's the same in more Mediterranean countries...
I don't know what you do in the US but in the UK people leave home at 18! Which I consider to be a really bad thing as the relationship between parents and their children becomes more and more distant after they leave home.

You can't call a mummy's boy someone who wants to be close to the two people that dedicated their lives to help him fulfill his dream! He owes a lot to his parents and pays them the respect they deserve by being close to them during the short time period he is not travelling around the world...Life is more about living alone and partying and I really admire Nadal for being a humble guy, even after what he has achieved...

 

[deltox]

So basically, the heavier the racket is, the better it is for the arm?

the heavier racquets are harder on the shoulder joint or "rotator cuff" but as long as you dont overexert its better for you in total

the lighter racquets give off tons more vibrations wihich is harder on the elbow joint, thus causing "tennis elbow".

overall if you control your movements then heavier racquets are better for you to play tennis with.

hope that explains it.

 

[NamRanger]

I won't argue with you about steroids, they are bad and should not be allowed in any sport.
However racquets and strings are a completely different story. The racquets and strings today don't destroy body's. Elbow, shoulder, wrist problems stem from flaws with technique not the racquet and strings. If something bothers your elbow perhaps you should have a look in the mirror and at your technique instead of blaming the equipment.
Tons and tons of people, including pros hit with all different modern racquets and strings with no problems at all.

1) False statement.

2) False statement #2.