Is Isner the most influential player in the history of tennis?
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van_Loederen
Professional
the AO didn't change rules because of Isner.
it was long overdue and Wimbledon gave them just the last justification.
(because of the traditionalists it wasn't so easy to make the change earlier.)
it was long overdue and Wimbledon gave them just the last justification.
(because of the traditionalists it wasn't so easy to make the change earlier.)
van_Loederen
Professional
i also wonder how people who are supposedly fans of the sport and watch the matches closely, can yearn for an extension after 5 sets in round 4.
going by how little most posters here understand of the sport, i'm afraid the answer to it is:
they simply don't. they tune in when a 5th set is on offer, but then they of course want it to go on and on.
they watch the sport like a soccer match, drinking beer and waking up only when the ball comes close to the goals.
going by how little most posters here understand of the sport, i'm afraid the answer to it is:
they simply don't. they tune in when a 5th set is on offer, but then they of course want it to go on and on.
they watch the sport like a soccer match, drinking beer and waking up only when the ball comes close to the goals.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Isner was definitely the catalyst. He even boasts about it!
http://www.espn.co.uk/tennis/story/_/id/25041173/wimbledon-tiebreak-rule-change-sensible
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-t...es-wimbledons-new-tiebreak-rule-idUKKCN1MV0FR
van_Loederen
Professional
dominikk1985
Legend
I like the rule. Yeah a 30-32 Set is fun but it basically means you have no chance in the next round. Isner became famous for the match but he also was totally gassed the next round and lost like in a little over an hour.
Phoenix1983
G.O.A.T.
Isner is a disgrace.
Mind you, he was only directly responsible for the change at Wimbledon. The USO has gone to a 5th set TB for years, and the AO would’ve changed without him anyway.
Mind you, he was only directly responsible for the change at Wimbledon. The USO has gone to a 5th set TB for years, and the AO would’ve changed without him anyway.
WestboroChe
Hall of Fame
I totally disagree. The problem is those 30-32 sets. Or more specifically the time these matches take now are ridiculous. I can't watch a 5 hour match and most sports now have created mechanisms to force the end of matches quicker. The notable exception is the dinosaur, baseball. Tennis should be doing everything they can to make these matches quicker and more TV friendly. Tiebreaks meet both criteria.
C
Chadalina
Guest
Serves are like sucker punches when it gets to big johns level, maybe thats why he respects his coach so much?
Red Rick
Bionic Poster
You display a tremendous lack of understanding for the sport considering how condescending you are.
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
#BeSner
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Mainad
Bionic Poster
The AO simply followed suit after Wimbledon caved in (albeit with its own variation).
Mr.Lob
G.O.A.T.
Wimbledon should have gone to a fifth set tiebreaker when Isner beat Mahut i70-68. But nothing was going to happen with a early round match with 2 players not fan favorites. The Anderson/Fed match 13-11 this year could have gone much higher if Fed was serving better. Anderson was serving lights out in that fifth set. Isner/Anderson was the straw that broke the camel's back. I would have liked to have seen the fifth set tiebreaker in all rounds except the finals. Nothing to !one there.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Quoi?
van_Loederen
Professional
of which sport? soccer?
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Would it?
Isner is a part of the reason, but I believe that the change of slowing down surfaces, changing the softness of balls, some slight racquet tech and new strings are really the biggest difference. If Wimbledon's grass was the same as back in the 70's or 80's no one would be at the baseline rallying. It would be quick 1-2 points, now some Points are 26 shots or more on grass. The Aussie open used to be rebound ace and break everyone's ankles and think the last longest match was Roddick vs El Aynaoui 21-19 in the 5th. In today's game the Aus Open is now considered a fast court.
van_Loederen
Professional
what suit exactly? Isner never even made the QF at the AO.
and if they were thinking of other players too, then we cannot blame Isner. he just created the precedent.
and usually Slams do not follow suit. their organizers know tennis better than the clowns who poast away on this board. and introducing tiebreaks has long been in the discussion.
the single main reason it wasn't done yet is: tradition.
yeah, they followed suit at breaking with that tradition.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Of course they follow suit. For instance once one Slam got a roof they all eventually fell into line. The US Open had trailblazed 5th set tiebreaks many years ago until Isner finally forced Wimbledon of all places to capitulate and follow suit. The AO soon fell into line once that happened and I'm now counting time until RG finally completes the line-up which it will do eventually.
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
Wimbledon screwed up this year by having the server battle semi go first, and then after having that match become a 6h physical battle, deciding to start the second semi with the plan to break it into 2 days if it went long. It was this avoidable disparity in fairness (not the lack of a tiebreak) that caused the lopsided final. Had they allowed the second semi to play out on one day, it might have also evolved into a physically taxing affair, in turn yielding a more competitive final.
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Deleted member 307496
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Oddly enough he reminds of the Sixth Sense kid.
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
Simple solution. Stop coming.
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
On topic now.
I don't like the rule for GS finals. Other than that I'm ok with it. Too bad Isner is at the center of it all, but he really is the reason for it more than anyone else.
I don't like the rule for GS finals. Other than that I'm ok with it. Too bad Isner is at the center of it all, but he really is the reason for it more than anyone else.
van_Loederen
Professional
^the notion that a 33 years old player could be the main reason for such changes is as dumb as it gets.
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
Who else is playing matches as long as his? You sound like a real fun guy to have a drink with
van_Loederen
Professional
yeah, that's the simplistic (to put it mildly) reasoning of the clueless.
but the AO organizers are not that.
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
I bet you have a frying pan serve and a Wal-Mart racketyeah, that's the simplistic (to put it mildly) reasoning of the clueless.
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
TennisProdigy
Professional
My wife got permanently blocked after she tweeted at him, “big serve bore.”
She never had tweeted anything negative about any pro player ever before...
This is further proof he is the most influential player of all time.
She never had tweeted anything negative about any pro player ever before...
This is further proof he is the most influential player of all time.
Phoenix1983
G.O.A.T.
On topic, Jack Kramer is the most influential man in the history of tennis (albeit, his influence wasn't really as a player, but as an administrator who ushered in professionalism).
r2473
G.O.A.T.
TimHenmanATG
Hall of Fame
John Isner is an irritating and conceited prat.
But let's move on.
But let's move on.
