Is men's tennis about to enter a weak era?

NADALbULLS

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I heard a commentator say there are no teenagers in the top 100 of the ATP. That would indicate no prodigies. Their can be late-bloomers but most top players make some noise by the time they are 19.
 
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Deleted member 21996

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in a sense you dont see Beckers and Changs anymore...

or Nadals for that matter! so it might have a valid point!
 

Bendex

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I heard a commentator say there are no teenagers in the top 100 of the ATP. That would indicate no prodigies. Their can be late-bloomers but most top players make some noise by the time they are 19.

Yes, There doesn't seem to be anything special at all in the Juniors at the moment. The best teenager is Bernard Tommic, who literally can't top spin the ball.
 

OKUSA

Hall of Fame
All of Nadal's slams not at RG have asterisks by them if he doesn't beat Federer in the final
 

nereis

Semi-Pro
It just means that yesterday's super-juniors are getting better and staying in the top 100. The game ups its level every half decade or so, so expect the next batch of wunderkinds in three years.
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
Cool, then Nadal can cruise along and rack up slams at will, aWeSoMe.

Come on. You want Nadal to win but also want him to be challenge too. Ten years ago Sampras was on a decline and the field look pretty weak. During the transition period, Agassi and mostly Hewitt took over the tour. They both have been criticizes for having soft draws at the slams, and the main reason is it was the time between post Pete and Pre-Federer. If you want Nadal to be in the similar situation, it doesn't look good for him.
 

ollinger

G.O.A.T.
No asterisks. I don't know of any champions who always had to beat the same guy in a final, be it Laver, Sampras, Nadal or whomever. Give the guy his due.
 
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Cool, then Nadal can cruise along and rack up slams at will, aWeSoMe.

here i was thinking that this was actually a honest thread... find out it's about sucking on Nadal's "teats" once more...

even more amazing is the number of Nadal fans that will come here and agree with this guy and say it's a great thread!

it was... it was...
 

Anaconda

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Isn't this a weak era already? Other than Federer and Nadal, no one is capable of winning slams. Djokovic is wallowing in darkness, Murray has 0 slams, JMDP is injured, Soderling never shows up in slam finals etc. This era was always weak.
 
I actually think tennis is going to get even more competitive. Yes, Nadal will probably continue to dominate the clay court swing, and Federer will continue to be a daunting opponent for just about anybody, but I think they are going to find themselves facing stiff competition for the rest of their tennis careers. It's just the nature of sports for the king(s) to be ousted at some point.
 

Sartorius

Hall of Fame
"THERAFA" returns.

I think it would be better if you would come up with a "NadalwonUSO10" sort of nickname though, this time it could have worked.
 

rocket

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I heard a commentator say there are no teenagers in the top 100 of the ATP. That would indicate no prodigies. Their can be late-bloomers but most top players make some noise by the time they are 19.

it's already in a weak era. the top 5 suck the big one, Nadal being the only exception. no consistency whatsoever, most choke in big matches. looks like once Fed's gone, we'll enter a time of dull tennis, without any creativity.
 

World Beater

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bad logic.

it would be a weak era if some 17 yr old noobie started winning slams left and right.

But nadal and federer still dominating all the tournaments even with other players trying to challenge.

This is an immensely tough era for anyone not named federer/nadal.
 
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rnrockz1

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All I have to say is "New Balls, Please" is going to make a return very soon.
 

Cyan

Hall of Fame
Come on. Ten years ago Sampras was on a decline and the field look pretty weak. During the transition period, Agassi and mostly Hewitt took over the tour.


Pretty much. Replace Sampras with Federer, Agassi with Nadal and Hewitt with Murray.
 
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meg0529

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In response to the question, I really hope not! I've only started religiously following this year! I'd like not to spend the rest of my days on youtube watching old matches. lol
 

bolo

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I heard a commentator say there are no teenagers in the top 100 of the ATP. That would indicate no prodigies. Their can be late-bloomers but most top players make some noise by the time they are 19.

Looks like it. The cohort below nadal's looks pretty bland right now. We are stuck with nadal, murray, djokovic, jmdp, monifls......for a while. :)
 

TheTruth

G.O.A.T.
Come on. You want Nadal to win but also want him to be challenge too. Ten years ago Sampras was on a decline and the field look pretty weak. During the transition period, Agassi and mostly Hewitt took over the tour. They both have been criticizes for having soft draws at the slams, and the main reason is it was the time between post Pete and Pre-Federer. If you want Nadal to be in the similar situation, it doesn't look good for him.

The cast hasn't changed.

It can't be a weak era for Nadal playing the same players that Fed played.

If it's a weak era for Nadal with the same cast, then people would also have to admit it has been a weak era for Fed.

However, the difference would be that these players were in their youth and finding their games during Fed's reign, and would be maturing in Nadal's era. Big difference.
 

Sartorius

Hall of Fame
The cast hasn't changed.

It can't be a weak era for Nadal playing the same players that Fed played.

If it's a weak era for Nadal with the same cast, then people would also have to admit it has been a weak era for Fed.

However, the difference would be that these players were in their youth and finding their games during Fed's reign, and would be maturing in Nadal's era. Big difference.

Federer's generation: Roddick, Hewitt, Safin, Ferrero, Baghdatis, Gonzalez, Nalbandian, Davydenko, Ferrer, etc..

Nadal's generation: Del Potro, Djokovic, Murray, Soderling, Monfils, Querrey, Cilic, Gulbis, Tsonga, Isner, etc..

By the end of Federer's career he'll likely to have played both generations in their respective primes.
 
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TheTruth

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Federer's generation: Roddick, Hewitt, Safin, Ferrero, Baghdatis, Gonzalez, Nalbandian, Davydenko, Ferrer, etc..

Nadal's generation: Del Potro, Djokovic, Murray, Soderling, Monfils, Querrey, Cilic, Gulbis, Tsonga, Isner, etc..

By the end of Federer's career he'll likely to have played both generations in their respective primes.

Ah, very true.

Fed and Nadal are both playing in each other's generation.
 

clayman2000

Hall of Fame
The cast hasn't changed.

It can't be a weak era for Nadal playing the same players that Fed played.

If it's a weak era for Nadal with the same cast, then people would also have to admit it has been a weak era for Fed.

However, the difference would be that these players were in their youth and finding their games during Fed's reign, and would be maturing in Nadal's era. Big difference.

Thats kinda unfair to say, since most of the guys who are at the top of their games now (Djoker, Murray, Del Po, Robin) werent elite players during Federers prime years (04 - 06).

Really the only holdovers from Federers "era" are Roddick and Hewitt. And really, Hewitt hasnt been a real competitor since 06. So that leaves Roddick
 

TheTruth

G.O.A.T.
Thats kinda unfair to say, since most of the guys who are at the top of their games now (Djoker, Murray, Del Po, Robin) werent elite players during Federers prime years (04 - 06).

Really the only holdovers from Federers "era" are Roddick and Hewitt. And really, Hewitt hasnt been a real competitor since 06. So that leaves Roddick

I disagree.

For the period of 04-06. That's 4 to 6 years ago.

Since Nadal and Djoker, et al. are between 21-24, if you subtract 4-6 years of their current age they were between 15-17 years old.

The only difference is that Nadal stepped it up at 17-18, which is why he is even linked to Fed.

Roddick, Ferrero, and Hewitt are Fed's peers, but Hewitt, Nalbandian, Ferrerro, and Haas were injured and off the tour for large chunks of time. So, who was there to challenge with all these teenagers finding their game?

In reality, Nadal's peers are not Roddick, Hewitt or Fed as they are all five to six years older than him.

This is pretty much like Pete at the end of his career having to battle Safin and Hewitt, the only difference is they didn't catch him until the tail end of his career.
 
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