Tennis_Monk
Hall of Fame
I just asked my stringer to use RPM blast and he told me that RPM blast is the new name for Pro Hurricane and they play the same.
true?
true?
Is RPM Blast really Pro Hurricane?
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TennisandMusic
Guest
Don't think so.
Tennis_Monk
Hall of Fame
Good thing is that I usually carry my own strings and ask him to just string 'em. So i have the RPM blast with me and he just had to string it.
I wouldnt call him a friend but we both have good rapport and once in a while he throws a few freebie's on me . So i dont think he needs to sell Pro hurricane to me.
or may be i misunderstood him. he might be saying RPM blast and Pro-Hurricane play similar.
I wouldnt call him a friend but we both have good rapport and once in a while he throws a few freebie's on me . So i dont think he needs to sell Pro hurricane to me.
or may be i misunderstood him. he might be saying RPM blast and Pro-Hurricane play similar.
chrisplchs
Professional
RPM blast and Pro Hurricane Tour have the same shape as they are extruded from the same shaped mold. They are just made up of different materials
Tennis_Crazed
Semi-Pro
I have been told from several people that RPM Blast is the same as Pro Hurricane, just in black. Nothing more than a marketing ploy...that has been quite effective to say the least.
The babolat rep even told one of the coaches who runs the pro shop.
The babolat rep even told one of the coaches who runs the pro shop.
surfsb
Rookie
I haven't played RPM yet but used a similar square poly with the Technifibre Black Code and they play noticeably different than Pro-Hurricane.
Maybe he got Pro-Hurricane confused with the Revenge because they are similar.
MuscleWeave
Semi-Pro
Is RPM the same material as PH, but with a gear shape?
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decades
Guest
my guess is they are the same string. I think there are a lot of "same" strings out there that we don't even realize.
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TennisandMusic
Guest
Hmm, are you positive? They aren't the same according to a lot of people. Seems like different information going around.
Plus, why would Roddick "go back" to PHT? I know dyes can make a difference in how a string plays, but it just seems too different.
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
From stringing it, playing with it, and talking to several bab reps, it is basically the same string.
From what I understand, Bab was going to release the PHT in black, but then decided to rename it RPM Blast to make money. It definitely plays different, but it is essentially the same string. I actually prefer the PHT (yellow), which I happen to not like.
From what I understand, Bab was going to release the PHT in black, but then decided to rename it RPM Blast to make money. It definitely plays different, but it is essentially the same string. I actually prefer the PHT (yellow), which I happen to not like.
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TennisandMusic
Guest
Haha..."I happen to like it less, than a string I do not like." I'd call that a ringing endorsement.
Kinda funny that our string preferences seem to pretty much be 180 from each other.
At least we both like Yoda.
Kinda funny that our string preferences seem to pretty much be 180 from each other.
At least we both like Yoda.
Wes_Loves_Dunlop
Professional
As far as i know, PHT does not have a coating of silicon am I right?
RPM blast does
RPM blast does
Lsmkenpo
Hall of Fame
No,PHT is marketed as having a coating of silicone also.
TW biggest competitors description of PHT from their site.
Polyester material with an Innovative Structure: Octagonal shape providing more spin than other polyester strings. * 10% More Power * 5% More Durable * Same Spin * Better Tension Maintenance Pro Hurricane Tour holds tension better* than Big Banger Alu Power and Pro Hurricane. PH Tour Benefit: Easier to string * Very enojoyable during the stringing operation thanks to its flexibility compared to standard polyester strings. * Very comfortable during the stringing operation, it does not burn the fingers like standard polyester strings. * Very easy to string thanks to the silicone coating which enhances sliding. The Pro Hurricane Tour Story * Highly innovative structure in the Polyester market (octogonal shape) * Increased Power and Spin versus PH and superior Power and Durability vs Alu Power * Best Tension Maintenance in polyester market * Easiest polyester to string in the market
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grimmbomb21
Professional
More so because I have a set of RPM sitting on my stringing machine. Kinda lets the air out of the balloon, doesn't it?:lol:
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TennisandMusic
Guest
Grimmbomb, check out the reviews, it's worth stringing up.
MTennisMan
New User
If it really is the same, then why did some non babolat sponsored pros switch to the "new black babolat string"
Steezmuffin
Rookie
they feel nothing alike when stringing and play nothing alike.
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
agreed. Stringing them, and playing with them are very different. Kind of like Prince Synthetic Duraflex (white vs black),,,,,,,,, stringing them, and playing with them are totally different, even though they are the same string.
chrisplchs
Professional
Having strung both PHT and 432-C, they are different. PHT is slicker coating while the 432-C doesn't give me that slick feeling. Also PHT seems more easily bendable then 432-C.
I have yet to string a retail RPM blast so I am not sure.
Maybe I'm just crazy
I have yet to string a retail RPM blast so I am not sure.
Maybe I'm just crazy
grimmbomb21
Professional
I will. I think you have to take most of the advise and opinions on this forum with a grain of salt anyway. Otherwise we would all be playing with the kps 88 strung with some poly at 30 lbs. :lol:
I have been using alu power @ 60 lbs. though. Should I be okay with rpm at the same tension?
austinjbrunner
Rookie
Yep. I have RPM at 60 and it works perfectly.
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TennisandMusic
Guest
Yeah I'm sure you're ok. I agree on the grain of salt thing. Not because anyone is not trustworthy or wrong, but because we all perceive things quite differently.
The Magician Santoro
New User
I heard something similar to this but have no idea if it just a rumor.
grimmbomb21
Professional
I was just talking to my local stringer about this today. He was saying that he has had many customers come in saying that a particular string has given them a serious case of tennis elbow. Someone else will come in and say that after switching to the very same string, their tennis elbow has miraculously disappeared. Go figure.
On a side note, nice serve! (youtube)
Has anyone played with both the B432-C (playtest string) and the production RPM Blast?
Did you notice any differences?
I looked at a package of RPM in a local tennis shop the other day and the RPM looked a lighter shade of gray than the 432-C. Didn't check out the RPM's texture or flex..
austinjbrunner
Rookie
Really? This goes back to the perception thing, but I thought the 432-C was lighter. The 432-C broke when I was stringing it (my fault) so I had half a set. RPM broke in the crosses while stringing (my fault again). Therefore I had RPM mains and 432-C crosses and I think the crosses looked slightly greyer. Other than that though, I could tell no distinct differences between the two in texture or flex, I personally believe they are one in the same.
My Babolat rep at the pro shop told me that RPM Blast was basically Pro Hurricane Tour Black.
Might have been placebo, but one of the stringers and I playtested the strings and felt that the RPM Blast was a touch softer and more playable. We asked the rep and he said it was probably due to the dying process of the strings.
Might have been placebo, but one of the stringers and I playtested the strings and felt that the RPM Blast was a touch softer and more playable. We asked the rep and he said it was probably due to the dying process of the strings.
Okay what's the point of this thread? Anyone that's actually played with a set of RPM Blast and PHT will tell you they feel completely different.
As someone stated it might be due to the different dying process, BUT did you ever think since it looks different, feels different, and plays different you could open up your narrow mind and consider it a different string?
I have tried 5 sets of RPM Blast along with PHT and Rough before the actual release of the string, courtesy of a friendly rep. I can tell you from trying 10 racquets of RPM Blast ( Hybrids ) that they are in NO WAY close to PHT in terms of feel, performance, and everything else.
#1 PHT is stiff... VERY stiff but RPM is very rubbery.
#2 RPM gets better response then PHT
Let's say that PHT was dyed black and Babolat called it RPM Blast, what's the big deal? Us idiots ( including myself ) have been purchasing Cars made in this fashion for the past 30 years. Hmmm.... Toyota and Lexus ? Nissan and Infiniti ? Honda and Acura ? They are the same thing minus couple aesthetic differences. We still decide to purchase 1 brand over the other because of preference. Drop this topic already this is like the 5th topic, use the search function if you want to see the past comments regarding the two.
As someone stated it might be due to the different dying process, BUT did you ever think since it looks different, feels different, and plays different you could open up your narrow mind and consider it a different string?
I have tried 5 sets of RPM Blast along with PHT and Rough before the actual release of the string, courtesy of a friendly rep. I can tell you from trying 10 racquets of RPM Blast ( Hybrids ) that they are in NO WAY close to PHT in terms of feel, performance, and everything else.
#1 PHT is stiff... VERY stiff but RPM is very rubbery.
#2 RPM gets better response then PHT
Let's say that PHT was dyed black and Babolat called it RPM Blast, what's the big deal? Us idiots ( including myself ) have been purchasing Cars made in this fashion for the past 30 years. Hmmm.... Toyota and Lexus ? Nissan and Infiniti ? Honda and Acura ? They are the same thing minus couple aesthetic differences. We still decide to purchase 1 brand over the other because of preference. Drop this topic already this is like the 5th topic, use the search function if you want to see the past comments regarding the two.
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1540tennis
Guest
The RPM Blast has a coating on it that allows it to move at impact and return to its original spot. Similar to Recoil, only good.
babolat was going to release PHT in Black, but decided to cancel all shipments of that and replace it w/ RPM Blast.
I feel like they do play differently, and the coating makes RPM much easier to string...
arche3
Banned
PHT plays very different than RPM blast. I had them both strung up at the same time and played different sets with them. I prefer RPM.
I also had the test string and while I didn't have a racket with PHT while I was testing the 432-C string my feeling is that the test string is in fact retail RPM blast as they play the same.
I can see similarities between PHT and RPM but they do play very different. Maybe it is the color? who knows.......
I also had the test string and while I didn't have a racket with PHT while I was testing the 432-C string my feeling is that the test string is in fact retail RPM blast as they play the same.
I can see similarities between PHT and RPM but they do play very different. Maybe it is the color? who knows.......
Steezmuffin
Rookie
Rpm blast is much easier to work with and weave than PHT.
Lsmkenpo
Hall of Fame
PHT has a silicone coating just like RPM Blast.
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
Many times when strings are painted/dyed different colors the feel changes.
In fact, even when you take it out of the package, it "uncoils" exactly the same as PHT. For those who have strung PHT, you know what I'm talking about,,,,,, it doesn't uncoil in circles, rather has a distinct way of stretching out all over the place with no ryhme of reason.
I've been following this debate, strictly out of curiosity. I have absolutely no desire or intention to use PHT or RPM. What I find fascinating is that NO ONE has posted anything compelling enough to convince me one way or the other as to whether these two strings are the same or different.
There are some persuasive anecdotal arguments for and against, but nothing constituting irrefutable proof. I suppose if I were interested in the string and tried it and liked it, I wouldn't really care one way or the other. That's what makes this thread so fascinating....the fact some people actually care.
Carry on boys...
There are some persuasive anecdotal arguments for and against, but nothing constituting irrefutable proof. I suppose if I were interested in the string and tried it and liked it, I wouldn't really care one way or the other. That's what makes this thread so fascinating....the fact some people actually care.
Carry on boys...
Lsmkenpo
Hall of Fame
Here is my speculation on why he didn't change earlier, when PHT came out Nadal
was #1 in the world and winning half the tournaments he played, changing something when you are playing well is not a good idea.
TennezSport
Hall of Fame
Blast<>PHT
While it is true that Blast is extruded from the same form as PHT, Blast is not the same co-poly chemical mixture as PHT. The differences are in the chemical percentages and the amount of the silicon in the coating. This makes Blast more elastic/softer than PHT in tensile stiffness and playability. The other problem that we noticed is that Blast does not hold tension as well and dies even faster than PHT does. However it did deliver more power and spin for the first 4-6hrs of play and then dies.
Cheers, TennezSport
While it is true that Blast is extruded from the same form as PHT, Blast is not the same co-poly chemical mixture as PHT. The differences are in the chemical percentages and the amount of the silicon in the coating. This makes Blast more elastic/softer than PHT in tensile stiffness and playability. The other problem that we noticed is that Blast does not hold tension as well and dies even faster than PHT does. However it did deliver more power and spin for the first 4-6hrs of play and then dies.
Cheers, TennezSport
Lsmkenpo
Hall of Fame
Perhaps comparing the 2 strings linear densities would shed some light on this mystery.
Someone who has the RaquetTune app, and
both of these strings in the same gauge could measure the linear densities using the process described here:
http://racquettune.com/singlestring.php
Experiment anyone?
Someone who has the RaquetTune app, and
both of these strings in the same gauge could measure the linear densities using the process described here:
http://racquettune.com/singlestring.php
Experiment anyone?
Are are the "chemical mixture", "chemical percentages and the amount of the silicon in the coating" and "composition"?
Facts not speculation . . . or are you pulling this out of you butt?
I have come to believe that because I have been following this thread closely and have heard many different speculations.
IMHO, I believe the ones who believe that these two strings are not the same, provided reasons in which I, personally, believe to be true
And one of the reasons was the different composition and chemical percentages, etc.
IMHO, I believe the ones who believe that these two strings are not the same, provided reasons in which I, personally, believe to be true
And one of the reasons was the different composition and chemical percentages, etc.
Lsmkenpo
Hall of Fame
Yeah, but the poster that mentioned that is just speculating he has no idea what the exact chemical composition or percentages are, unless he is a chemist who works for Babolat. Babolat is not going to divulge that information to anyone outside of their company.
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