It's now on the Yonex Website! VCORE Pro EMERALD

Power Player

Bionic Poster
Wow, that’s crazy. Maybe you had one that was way off spec? I’m gonna give the v7 16/19 a whirl since my ideal SW is ~325. Hopefully I get one that is close to the published specs. If not, I’ll just keep playing with my vcp97 310 and eventually try the vcp97 HD.

You will be fine if you are used to the Blades. It plays in general like all the other blades in terms of weight and balance. Honestly, the v7 swings just like my old BLX 2011s. I am sure there are subtle differences but nothing that will throw you off.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
I don't know about the Blade v7, but it has worked just fine for me with the 2015 Blade 18x20 and my Pro Stock Blade... won't be getting the v7 immediately, so time will tell.

What is the SW of your other racquets, as the Blade v7 is around 334 if on spec...? Or as others have mentioned, you got one that was really out of spec.

Well in his defense, the light Vcores have a really low SW and are super whippy. To me after a few months of play with it, under 320 is simply way too light but if someone thinks that is fine, there is no way they could handle the Blade. It’s weighted for modern baselining and the Vcore is weighted for more traditional all court play. Really just boils down to your preference and style of play.

The new 18x20 is very classic and its awesome Yonex has made this offering. You will need to bring your A game though, it reminds me a lot of my old Dunlop 200s.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Well in his defense, the light Vcores have a really low SW and are super whippy. To me after a few months of play with it, under 320 is simply way too light but if someone thinks that is fine, there is no way they could handle the Blade. It’s weighted for modern baselining and the Vcore is weighted for more traditional all court play. Really just boils down to your preference and style of play.

The new 18x20 is very classic and its awesome Yonex has made this offering. You will need to bring your A game though, it reminds me a lot of my old Dunlop 200s.

Thanks for that. For me, as long as the feel is what I'm looking for and I have good directional control, all the other stuff can be tweaked to personal taste. I love old Dunlop 200s. I had many in the past and currently have the Aero 4D 200 Tour and the Biomimetic 200 Lite (modified).
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
Thanks for that. For me, as long as the feel is what I'm looking for and I have good directional control, all the other stuff can be tweaked to personal taste. I love old Dunlop 200s. I had many in the past and currently have the Aero 4D 200 Tour and the Biomimetic 200 Lite (modified).

4d 200 tour was a beast! I used the AG 4D 200 and loved that racquet a lot, one of my favorite P/Js ever, but very low powered and control focused. I suspect the new Yonex will be quite similar, which really is quite awesome for a player who loves a soft feel and heavy slice.
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
Are the frames made in CHINA ?
If so, the tariff on goods made in the PRC that are imported into the USA may be the reason .
But I thought China was supposed to cover that not us (consumers) because I do not recall my salary bump of 25% any time over the last 25 years of yearly reviews...??
 

Kozzy

Hall of Fame
I couldn't resist, even though I love my Ultra Tours, so my 97 HD is on its way! I guess that's when you really know you are a racquet addict - when you have no issues with your current frame, but still by another racquet anyway... Looking forward to comparing them.
 

PBODY99

Legend
But I thought China was supposed to cover that not us (consumers) because I do not recall my salary bump of 25% any time over the last 25 years of yearly reviews...??
A protective tariff is designed to decrease the demand for imports vs locally made products.
Importers pay, and pass the cost along the chain of supply.
Of course companies raise prices routinely, trying to hit the sweet spot between price & demand.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
I couldn't resist, even though I love my Ultra Tours, so my 97 HD is on its way! I guess that's when you really know you are a racquet addict - when you have no issues with your current frame, but still by another racquet anyway... Looking forward to comparing them.

I might have been guilty of doing something like that... on multiple occasions. :unsure: :oops::whistle:;)
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
A protective tariff is designed to decrease the demand for imports vs locally made products.
Importers pay, and pass the cost along the chain of supply.
Of course companies raise prices routinely, trying to hit the sweet spot between price & demand.
Ok, so if your theory (and orangutans theory) is correct then:
- import cost goes up and price hike is passed to consumer
- domestic production is more expensive (that was the reason for shifting it to Far East or other regions) hence price increase passes to the consumer.

ALL cases lead that American consumer will be paying significantly (much more than salaries can keep up) higher for the products therefore get the worst end of it.

There is nothing “protective” about the tariffs other than protecting the Orange idiot ego and misunderstanding of basics of economy (or Algebra 1)
 

anfield

Semi-Pro
Tiafoe uses an 18x20 Yonex right?
Not really, he uses, on last look, a 16x20 Duel G 310, skipping the top string, so it can be painted to look like a 16x19 VCP, and get a bit of softer string bed. Same with Chung Hyeon, and myself, it's a boss set up.

But how loopy Tiafoe hits, maybe he could benefit from the 18x20 and a bit more of a driving ball.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
Not really, he uses, on last look, a 16x20 Duel G 310, skipping the top string, so it can be painted to look like a 16x19 VCP, and get a bit of softer string bed. Same with Chung Hyeon, and myself, it's a boss set up.

But how loopy Tiafoe hits, maybe he could benefit from the 18x20 and a bit more of a driving ball.

He used the Blade 18x20 before Yonex paid him.
 

Nick777

Semi-Pro
Not really, he uses, on last look, a 16x20 Duel G 310, skipping the top string, so it can be painted to look like a 16x19 VCP, and get a bit of softer string bed. Same with Chung Hyeon, and myself, it's a boss set up.

But how loopy Tiafoe hits, maybe he could benefit from the 18x20 and a bit more of a driving ball.
Can you please post a pic showing skipping the top string?
 

smalahove

Hall of Fame
Been sent 1 of each 97 310 320hd and the 100 300
So been hitting with them for the past week. Love the paintjob

Was a long time lover of pt57 and radical tours and when I switched contract to yonex used the 330.

The 320 definitely my go to now. I usually string at 54 but it felt funky, had this weird feel to it. Strung with pptp125 54.

Strung at 48 the second time and it feels so much more solid. These rackets absolutely do not need dampeners. They feel uber comfortable without and with one has a weird flex to it like the clash. I did feel like my 330 had more pop, but funny enough I feel like I hit with more spin on this. It feels pretty good stock but I'll most likely weight it on the handle to make it as quick as the 310.


310 and 300 feels quicker. The feel is just slightly different. I like the 310 quite a bit too but I miss using 18x20 too much :)



I've always used every single retail yonex. This one is my favorite and second the vcore 95/98

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How does the new VCore Pro 97 compare to the Duel G 97?
And how does the HD version compare to the VCore 95, esp when it comes to flex/feel, launch height and pace?

Thanks!
 

!<-_->!

Hall of Fame
330 review says it plays slightly more muted than the outgoing model, but is similar to the duel g. I thought the outgoing was more muted than the duel g. Really curious to actually try and see what the feel is like
 

anfield

Semi-Pro
I thought the outgoing was more muted than the duel g.
This all gets a bit confusing with the terminology. My interpretation, the VCP can feel amazing when hitting the sweet spot with the thinner 20mm beam, but anywhere outside and it's harsh, people complained and they brought in the vibration dampening mesh on the handle.

To me the VCPs are crisper than the Duel but I would not call the Duel 'muted,' I'd say, plusher/smoother. Muted is for frames that have been intentionally dampened, like new blade, and that went a bit too far, I'd actually call that spongy. Plush is for a frame that is naturally comfortable with some old school graphite feedback.

Duel G feels 'muted' to them because the beam is a bit thicker, who knew .5mm makes that much of a difference, but because the frame is more stable, solid, you are not getting as many harsh strikes. And then if you want an even more plusher experience, try the Tour G.
 
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Power Player

Bionic Poster
I dont think you hit with the blade long enough. The feedback is almost exactly like my pt280. In other words it is muted but the sweet spot has that crisp pop to it when you nail the ball. Its not spongy at all unless you tried the 16x19 - i never used that one.
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
I dont think you hit with the blade long enough. The feedback is almost exactly like my pt280. In other words it is muted but the sweet spot has that crisp pop to it when you nail the ball. Its not spongy at all unless you tried the 16x19 - i never used that one.
And new frames need some hours of hard hitting to break in as well.
 

SumYungGai

Semi-Pro
Would love some impressions on the 97HD and 310 when you guys have hit with them. I feel it's gonna be a while until I can get my hands on them.
 

anfield

Semi-Pro
I dont think you hit with the blade long enough.
Are you trying to tell me I should like the Blade or I don't know how to evaluate a racquet?

I had the PS97s, which is even more HH, and it did not "feel" as HH as the v7 Blade. I don't think I got one out of spec, it's the same feeling I had with the CV. FOR ME, there is way too much weight at 12, and with the lower RA I feel it more. It's just not for me, new frame or broken in frame.

Part of the reason I changed my order from the new Emerald 310 to the HD is I heard there is not much difference between the VCP 310 -- which I feel is too flimsy. I took a punt on the HD because it's in my spec and it's something different, and hopefully it can do something better than the Duel G, but I doubt it, and will probably be in the classifieds soon.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
Are you trying to tell me I should like the Blade or I don't know how to evaluate a racquet?

I had the PS97s, which is even more HH, and it did not "feel" as HH as the v7 Blade. I don't think I got one out of spec, it's the same feeling I had with the CV. FOR ME, there is way too much weight at 12, and with the lower RA I feel it more. It's just not for me, new frame or broken in frame.

Part of the reason I changed my order from the new Emerald 310 to the HD is I heard there is not much difference between the VCP 310 -- which I feel is too flimsy. I took a punt on the HD because it's in my spec and it's something different, and hopefully it can do something better than the Duel G, but I doubt it, and will probably be in the classifieds soon.

I'm telling you if you barely hit with the frame as you basically claimed to, then yes, you didn't properly evaluate the racquet because your description of it's feel is really not accurate.

As to if you like it or not, I don't really care about that. It's your personal preference. But all Blades are head heavy at 12. That's the DNA of the racquet. Not sure what else you would expect there. They have literally had the same balance within 1 pt or so for over 10 years.
 

anfield

Semi-Pro
I'm telling you if you barely hit with the frame as you basically claimed to, then yes
It took all about ten seconds of hitting the Blade v7 to realize it was not the right stick for me. Just the same as if I walked into a Disney animated film when I wanted to see a Tarantino. I know what I like pretty quick.

But I do look forward the the HD, I do have to add five grams to the Duel G's hoop head to get it stable and with some plow. Hopefully all I need is a leather grip on the HD.
 

fortunecookiesjc

Professional
How does the new VCore Pro 97 compare to the Duel G 97?
And how does the HD version compare to the VCore 95, esp when it comes to flex/feel, launch height and pace?

Thanks!

Duel g 97 was more metallic imo
Vcp 97 was more muted softer
Vcp2019 is more solid. Flexes on quick swings

97HD in my opinion swings the fastest out of the vcp but Vcore 95 has more of a solid feel and swings even faster. Not as much flex. 0 issue with pace on either one. Hit mostly with pros and d1 players.
I never notice launch angle because I just adjust. But they both penetrate through the court well. Vc95 has less feel.

97hd is the most similar to my pt280.
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whorng

Rookie
Why would the 97HD swing faster than the 97 310?
It has the same balance, but higher weight and swingweight.
Power is slightly higher and larger sweet spot.
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If the Vcore HD swings and hits like the ultra tour, I am going to pass on it since I found the ultra tour lacking it power compared to the blade 2015 and v7 18x20 models.
 

fortunecookiesjc

Professional
If the Vcore HD swings and hits like the ultra tour, I am going to pass on it since I found the ultra tour lacking it power compared to the blade 2015 and v7 18x20 models.
I've personally never liked how any of the blades swung except maybe n and k blades.

The 97hd imo swings similar to UT but it comes off the racket a lot quicker. That being said string in lower tensions.


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fortunecookiesjc

Professional
97HD quicker, nice. I like the sound of that. I'm thinking it'll come down to the 97HD or VC95 for me.
Definitely a fun demo, honestly if you can handle the 95. It Is one fun racket to play with. Any of the vcore if you hit the sweetspot it sounds like a cannon. It's quite whippy.

I couldn't get over the 95 and decided on the 97.


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whorng

Rookie
Well crap.
I've only been focused on the 97 310, but...
Now I need to add the 97HD to my list of future racquets to try.
 

ProRadTour

Semi-Pro
Wow, just watched the review, it appears that Yonex are just continuing to make some great frames. Didn't think they could improve on the previous VCore Pro 97, sound like they have
 
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