Its so nice to have Justine back!
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marpiw
Semi-Pro
Unfortunately her comeback is ilegal because she has the legal status of RETIRED...and she will have many problems in the future because of that status trying to justify to the revenue office in her country the potential fabulous incomes she may have...abnormal quantities of money for a RETIRED person...Poor Justine,I dont want to be in her skin...Perhaps she will end up playing tennis in the jail's court...
Objective Danny
Hall of Fame
The WTA need more players with the style, grace and game of Justine Henin. She, unlike the sisters from Compton, Ca., is a credit to the sport.
marpiw
Semi-Pro
Hope that in her next picture she wont appear with the strips outfit of the jail....The WTA need more players with the style, grace and game of Justine Henin. She, unlike the sisters from Compton, Ca., is a credit to the sport.
Clijsters and Henin give the WTA a more professional appearance. They both are in great shape and their skill level is admirable.
Henin still has some catching up to do. So, I see Clijsters winning this one.
Andy G
Semi-Pro
I agree with you 100%. Forget Serena, Henin is better player. Serena gets so much attention because she is part of the whole Williams Sisters blah blah blah that everyone has to talk about. Henin is the better player not only all around talent but surface for surface as well. Serena only has as many slams as she does, because of Henin retirement. GO HENIN
I think Henin is better too and that could be the reason Serena doesn’t like her. I can never forget Serena accused Henin as a cheater back in 2003 FO. She gets too much attention and that’s why she’s spoiled. I don’t think she never change her mind by giving Henin credit for beating her. Luckily, Serena didn’t threaten to beat up Henin in the locker room. In 2009 FO, Serena also accused Martinez Sanchez as a cheater, and physically threaten Sanchez by saying "I’m going to get you in the locker room". It was a scary moment, and good thing was Serena won the match. Had Serena lost that match, who knows what would have happened.
Did she flat out say that, or someone quoted her?
Changmaster
Rookie
Justine did cheat against Serena during that match, here's a clip here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb8w5_i6wms
Justine put her hand up while Serena was serving (the video clearly show it), so Serena rightly asked for another 1st serve. But Justine didn't admit to putting her hand up and unfortunately the umpire wasn't looking at her at the time.
Unfortunately the video isn't very high quality, maybe there's a better one out there.
Objective Danny
Hall of Fame
This thread is about the majesty of Justine Henin, not the overweight, profane Schoolyard Bully who, by right, should be on a 12 month suspension.
Objective Danny
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P_Agony
Banned
It is great to have her back, and I hope either she or Dementieva wins this tourney.
Objective Danny
Hall of Fame
Justine Henin, along with her country woman, will return respectably to the sport. We'll have a Grand Slam champion we can all be proud of.
Bloodshed
Professional
Not to mention how flakey she gets when she's close of winning a GS.
Don't get me wrong, I like Dementieva but unfortunately she's a follower of the russian mafia (let's throw as many UE, DF and shriek while were at it. And no matter how well they play, they always find a time to ultimately choke a match).
Bloodshed
Professional
Unfortunately outside of Clijsters and Henin, the next Belgium players are nothing but brainless bashers (how can Wickmayer won her match despite throwing 87 UE is beyond my comprehension :-? . And Flipkens is a headcase that's playing the wrong sport. Maybe water polo would be a better sport for her.)
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
ITA. It's a sheer pleasure to watch her play. Noone else has her talent in WTA.
egn
Hall of Fame
1. Yes it is nice to have Justine back.
2. Don't trash Venus cause you all hate Serena, Venus is not at all like her sister. While Serena was trashing the fellow players and being a loud mouth Venus was busting her ass defending the very tour she played for. The tour Henin and Clijsters jumped ship on and Serena could do nothing but insult. Venus is probably more talented than all 3 of them and just had handful of bum luck.
3. Henin did cheat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cDonQt1zn8.. watch at 8:50 Serena even can see it notice the slowing in the serve swing and the way she is standing after her serve. Continue watching to 9:10-9:20 when they zoom in on her with her hand up. Think that doesn't make a difference it could have very well put her up 40-0..harder for Henin to break much easier for Henin to close that match. There goes a seond French Open..but that being said it doesn't matter that much as it balances out with the MIA of Henin.
4. Kim is far from "great shape". She is definitely a bit overweight..
5. Why are all you Justine fans still crying over the fact that Serena has more slams? What happens if Justine wins none in the next 3 years and Serena grabs 4 or 5 more..what is the excuse then? Who is more talented. Justine has amazing shots but to say Serena is talentless well that is absurd. Serena has one of the best serves and return of serves in the game. Not to mention a great touch at the net. She is an ego, arrogant, jerk but she is far from a talentless brute..thats Dinara Safina hence the 0 slam by her. Dinara Safina is just a big strong hitter with no talent. Serena on the other hand actually plays quite good tennis.
6. Why did I even post in this thread? Its BELGIUMANIA.
7. I am very happy Justine is back because we might get good tennis circa 2000-2006 when there were multiple high level players
2. Don't trash Venus cause you all hate Serena, Venus is not at all like her sister. While Serena was trashing the fellow players and being a loud mouth Venus was busting her ass defending the very tour she played for. The tour Henin and Clijsters jumped ship on and Serena could do nothing but insult. Venus is probably more talented than all 3 of them and just had handful of bum luck.
3. Henin did cheat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cDonQt1zn8.. watch at 8:50 Serena even can see it notice the slowing in the serve swing and the way she is standing after her serve. Continue watching to 9:10-9:20 when they zoom in on her with her hand up. Think that doesn't make a difference it could have very well put her up 40-0..harder for Henin to break much easier for Henin to close that match. There goes a seond French Open..but that being said it doesn't matter that much as it balances out with the MIA of Henin.
4. Kim is far from "great shape". She is definitely a bit overweight..
5. Why are all you Justine fans still crying over the fact that Serena has more slams? What happens if Justine wins none in the next 3 years and Serena grabs 4 or 5 more..what is the excuse then? Who is more talented. Justine has amazing shots but to say Serena is talentless well that is absurd. Serena has one of the best serves and return of serves in the game. Not to mention a great touch at the net. She is an ego, arrogant, jerk but she is far from a talentless brute..thats Dinara Safina hence the 0 slam by her. Dinara Safina is just a big strong hitter with no talent. Serena on the other hand actually plays quite good tennis.
6. Why did I even post in this thread? Its BELGIUMANIA.
7. I am very happy Justine is back because we might get good tennis circa 2000-2006 when there were multiple high level players
Correct. I'm glad Justine is back and echo previous comments about her level of skill, style, and fantastic backhand.
sillymonkey
Hall of Fame
So glad she's back [Kim too].
ATXtennisaddict
Hall of Fame
I actually have someone I can genuinely root for on the women's side again.
Shangri La
Hall of Fame
Who else in top 20 has a 1hbh?
athiker
Hall of Fame
I'm a fan of her game, but watching that makes me a bit sick to my stomach. Why pull a move like that?
I just started following tennis again in the last few years, so catching up on what's been going on over the last decade or so. I've mostly seen her play in YouTube vids and some Tennis Channel replays & instruction segments. Thanks for the link. I had heard about an incident, but had never seen it.
The question I would ask is this: if Serena Williams (or anyone else on tour) had raised their hand the way Henin did in this scenario, would they have confessed it as Williams wanted Henin to after the fact? There are a few who might, but I'd wager most wouldn't. Is that good? Nope. But is it realistic, given the stakes involved? Probably. But Serena is always going to make a big deal about this kind of thing, since she has that perpetual chip on her shoulder thanks to her silly father. If the official didn't see it, it didn't happen - I'd imagine that would be the stance most players would take.
I have heard about this alot but this is the first time I have ever seen it. From what I can see the discussion was between Serena and the Umpire... it was a quick discussion and then Serena served. I don't even know if Justine could hear what was going on or knew. Serena got the serve in and the match continued.
If it was me... I doubt it would tweak on me either... Serena got another ball from a ball person and served... if she held two balls and only had the one in hand.. I would pick up on it... but they way this unfolded I am not sure I would have realized she was on a second serve.
If I was Justine I would think Serena would have gone up to the umpire and addressed it more seriously... including me in the discussion. Who is stupid enough not to address an issue as obvious as this? And then go ballistic about a foot fault call that you cannot confirm.
Yeah, just watch the clip. It looks like they never asked Justine anything; the umpire just said he didn't see her put her hand up. And, of course, Serena had "helped" with an out call just one point before, which is why the crowd were jeering and Justine had her hand up...
egn
Hall of Fame
That is the exact problem with the situation. Same thing with the Gonzo incident against Blake where the ball hit off the frame of his racket and he claimed it never touched it. We'll never know but the point is the ones who do it still did it. So even if you say oh the other might have the ones who did still do it. And If I recall there was another incident with Henin at the Aus Open not sure though might just be going nuts here.
egn
Hall of Fame
Yea but the ball was a good 3 to 4 inches out so its not like Serena turned an in ball out.
Don't think you get it... I am not sure Justine knew what was happening... if Serena's serve had been out... and she went to recieve on the other side you could state she knew. The way things unfolded how do you know Justine knew it was a first or second serve?
Serena should have taken a more active role addressing the issue... do not put it on Justine. Watch the video... no one asked Justine... it was a quick discussion between Serena and the Umpire and then she served... it all happened very quickly. If I was Serena I would have been up at the chair discussing it much further.
egn
Hall of Fame
I agree Serena definitely should have been more active, but then again by this point in the match I don't think Serena wanted to be there anymore as you could hear by the crowd. He turned and looked at Henin you can see at 9:11 he does that, and Henin simply just stands there. It is a good point though Henin might not know what serve it is, but I would find that hard to believe. As Serena asked if it is was first serve? The chair said he did not see her hand up so it is pretty clear that Serena was called the fault. However with all the crowd noise who knows what Henin thought was going on.
That is my point... and I doubt Justine would hear what the umpire was saying... he was facing away from Justine. She might have heard Serena say "first serve"... but for Serena not to debate the point would have led me to think she was serving her first serve.
I think Serena was out of line accusing Justine of anything now that I have seen the video evidence. I have always thought of Serena as a bad loser and this just supports my impressions of her.
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Baazigar
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you forgot "black"
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Baazigar
Guest
henin is a cheat and i hate her.
C++ Primer
Rookie
welcome back,JuJu
mrDamien
Hall of Fame
Why said so? She cheating your money? Her tennis is a gift to WTA. Aren't you agree with me as compare with others women on tour where mostly all brainless and one dimensional games.
Objective Danny
Hall of Fame
She made a lovely bride. Any real man would be proud to have her on his arm. Too bad her former hubby wasn't man enough to uphold his end of the deal.
egn
Hall of Fame
She made a lovely bride. Any real man would be proud to have her on his arm. Too bad her former hubby wasn't man enough to uphold his end of the deal.
Uhh okay someone is just a tad bit crazy on the Henin train..where is cuddles these two should go at it.
Even if Justine cheated Serena, it couldn't have happened to a more deserving player.
Serena is a fat racist arrogant buffalo, she called Justine a 'white bit*h', has no class or sportsmanship and likes to hog the limelight. She would've lost anyway. Can we please let it go.
Serena is a fat racist arrogant buffalo, she called Justine a 'white bit*h', has no class or sportsmanship and likes to hog the limelight. She would've lost anyway. Can we please let it go.
Objective Danny
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