Just ban clay
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17>12. End of story.
Mick
Legend
yemenmocha
Professional
+1
Came to write nearly identical comments.
If we had true variety of court speeds with hardcourts being fast as they used to be (and indoor carpet) then the entire field would be different. If the field is different, then the clay court matches would be different.
Jay_The_Nomad
Professional
Nah. They just need to ban nadal from playing any tennis. The guy owns everyone on every surface on a regular basis.
Clay is for people who suck because they can ONLY hit from the baseline.
Tennis Fanatic 070
Banned
Don't mind him, even some 'TT guru's' troll like there's no tomorrow.
Feather
Legend
This is a ridiculous thread. Clay is legitimate as any other surface. Clay is needed for variety and I say this as a guy who prefers hard courts and grass over clay court tennis.
It should have been like this
AO medium fast HC like Reebound Ace
RG slow clay
Wimbledon lightning fast grass of 90s
US open fast hard courts like in the 90s
WTF Carpet
It should have been like this
AO medium fast HC like Reebound Ace
RG slow clay
Wimbledon lightning fast grass of 90s
US open fast hard courts like in the 90s
WTF Carpet
NoZak Djokovic
Rookie
You're a fed fan aren't you
They don't play the same. Nadal hasn't won non clay title for almost 3 years before Indian wells and he always dominated clay.
And clay is fun. The only thing boring about clay is that Nadal dominates too much, so it's not as exciting to watch maybe, because you know the result in advance. But Djokovic match was exciting. Without time wasting it was an epic match.
But good idea would be to speed up some surfaces, for variety and also for shorter points, preserving player bodies.
Bud
Bionic Poster
The same guy has a new court design coming soon to the tour. The top coat is sandpaper with shrapnel and glass ground in for extra roughness. It's called the bodybuster™
HC is the worst invention ever for professional players.
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
Remember, in Federer fringe-land, only Nadal is a problem, and as you point out, no one was talking about banning grass when Federer won his Wimbledon titles. Naaahh, it is only a problem the moment Nadal was celebrated for his record FO victory which moves him one major closer to the false god Federer, and Nadal's apparent dominant level of play. Oh, NOW its time to ban clay.
Yes, you are correct: the burning asshurt of the TT Federer fringe is off the charts.
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firepanda
Professional
Maybe, but it requires more skill and intelligence than serving and ball-bashing.
Absolutely WRONG!!! If S&V was easy everybody would be doing it. It's not easy, so everyone is camping on the baseline.
Noone is happy with anything. People complained back in the days when there was much more surface variety. Now people complain that there is no variety. I don't really care tbh. Most of these players are a product of the way the surfaces are now.
I just like a good tennis match. Quality is quality depsite playing surfaces.
I just like a good tennis match. Quality is quality depsite playing surfaces.
This is true. People complain about S&V's boringness.. when the match is all-serve.
But take that away and they complain about no creativity, no winners, matches going too long.
The bottom line is that there is NOTHING anyone can possibly do to the sport to make 100% of their fans like it. NOTHING!
So with that in mind all they can do is make it so that they make the most money off it. And surface homogenization has achieved that.
And while Federer fans and 90's tennis fans may hate it.. I'm pretty sure that it has both helped federer... and helped tennis popularity overall (in the SHORT TERM).
In the long term it's hard to foster new tennis fans because no one wants to watch a 5 hour match? What other sport requires its fans to sit there that long? Not to mention how bad it is for TV.
mellowyellow
Legend
I think back then the problem people had was tennis was not covered as extensively as it is now. Back then I rarely saw the French and AusO through the week, The USO and Winmby were the prime and the most televised. They were coincidentally the fastest surfaces and alot of sv and 3 stroke rallies happened. Now you get to see all the tennis, and it is blatantly obvious that most tournies play too similar, now their is a big cry for more grass, less clay (season) and faster hard court along with indoor carpet. It used ti be nice to get o see the clay mixed into the season, now that type of tennis is all you see. Their are currently no true sv players.
Bender
G.O.A.T.
I thought people don't S&V because of the surfaces
Mustard
Bionic Poster
Even in the 1990s, players like Sampras and Becker would stay back on hardcourts. It's amusing how some people seem to think that the 1990s was nothing but a serve and volley craze. The biggest reason for the decline of serve and volley is the superior racquet and string technology that makes it not only easier to get the ball back, but to get the ball back deeper into the court, and with authority.
Murrayfan31
Hall of Fame
Even as a Nadal hater I find this thread ridiculous.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
N
Nathaniel_Near
Guest
Roofs are almost as important as the coin toss.
Bender
G.O.A.T.
Yep, no matter what happens Nadal's going to do the same thing :lol:
Bender
G.O.A.T.
You have to serve from the baseline, no?How about banning the baseline ? Have the court end at the service line. Then there will be only S&V
ser_renely
Rookie
I am not saying I am using wood and gut.
I am talking about racquets and strings from 15-20 years ago.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
I knew there was some hitch in my theory
intrepidish
Hall of Fame
I think it would be easier to simply ban the OP and leave clay
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