K90 users with a double handed backhand

[smart_player]

With the handle being noticably shorter compared to other rackets on the market, I was wondering whether is enough space for two hands at once on the handle (does it make this stroke feel impeded / unatural in any way).

Feedback from people who are playing with / have tested the K90 and play with a double handed backhand would be greatly appreciated.

 

[J011yroger]

Yea, was wierd at first comming from the N90, and I thought I was going to have to have custom handles molded. But I got used to it. Just wrap my grip all the way up to the throat.

J

 

[fortunecookiesjc]

I didnt have a problem. It was nice to use on a 2h backhand.

 

[supermario343]

I dont have a problem with it either....just gotta get used to it and ull be fine

 

[MordredSJT]

I actually tend to prefer the shorter pallet. The index finger of my left hand falls just above the grip tape. It gives me a good reference frame for the grip and I feel it helps me to keep my top hand loose.

 

[Deleted member 25923]

I think that the MG Extreme pro is a little strange for 2 handers.

 

[HeadPrestige]

I think that the MG Extreme pro is a little strange for 2 handers.

... uhm.... okay?

 

[AmeliasDad]

Yea, was wierd at first comming from the N90, and I thought I was going to have to have custom handles molded. But I got used to it. Just wrap my grip all the way up to the throat.

J

Jolly- didn't you post some pics of your K90s once before - I'd love to see them again.

 

[J011yroger]

Yea they are around on here somewhere. Just ordered 6 more.

J

 

[m1stuhxsp4rk5]

^^^
not gonna wait for the sampras racket jolly?

 

[J011yroger]

Why would I? I play just fine with the K no need to go changing things. I don't see any reason for me to switch until 2010 or so which is about when I will wear out the 24 or so K90s I will have in circulation.

J

 

[m1stuhxsp4rk5]

true but what if the sampras racket is better in some way? which i find is pretty hard to do since the k90 is such and awesome racket

 

[J011yroger]

Then good for the sampras racquet, I am not looking for the absolute best racquet for my game, just something I can play well with so that I can get to work on making myself a better player.

I wouldn't have switched to the K if I had a fresh supply of Ncodes.

J

 

[1337Kira]

Doesn't Nishikori use the K90?
And there's other pros who use a 2-hander with the k90

 

[TennisNewbie85]

^^^he uses the 95, same as Fish i believe...

 

[[d]ragon]

bjorn borg lol

 

[iplaybetter]

I think that the MG Extreme pro is a little strange for 2 handers.

and really nice for ones

 

[tom_asdelonge182]

I was thinking, wouldn't the k90 suck for 2hbh? like it would be hard to generate the hea speed with the 2h form?

 

[martymule]

I can't play with Wilson racquets for that exact reason, their grips are way too short for my two handed strokes. That's why I play with Yonex - their grips are long and have plenty of room for two hands.

 

[tom_asdelonge182]

I can't play with Wilson racquets for that exact reason, their grips are way too short for my two handed strokes. That's why I play with Yonex - their grips are long and have plenty of room for two hands.

have you tried the x versions of the wilson racquets?

 

[klementine]

old thread, I know. Just want to see if anyone out there has more feedback on this issue. Goin fishin'.

 

[supermario343]

just takes getting used to i guess...just bc of the weight and smaller head size...u gotta work it more

 

[ledor]

I changed out the leather grip for the Kgrip + Pro Overgrip and extended it closer to the throat. My 2hbh is a much better shot. My previous racquets are a Pure Drive, Aeropro, Prince Diablo. I was looking for a racquet with more stability to help cure my shanks. It also took 12 weeks of work with a coach and a ball machine to hone my 2hbh. So it's all about customization first til you say you can't play with the K90.

 

[dunno]

Ewww, 2hbh?






jk, but my mind just doesn't want to go there.

 

[justacityboy]

some of wilson's older frames (n code, pro staff) have much longer grips, anybody know why the k factor is so much shorter?

 

[aphex]

Why would I? I play just fine with the K no need to go changing things. I don't see any reason for me to switch until 2010 or so which is about when I will wear out the 24 or so K90s I will have in circulation.

J

out of sincere curiosity, how do you wear out 24 rackets in a couple of years??

 

[J011yroger]

out of sincere curiosity, how do you wear out 24 rackets in a couple of years??

I play a lot, and restring a lot, and hit a pretty big ball. Stringing tightly, with poly, also contributes because the strings don't absorb as much of the impact, and it goes straight to the frame.

I had 17 N90s and pretty much used them up (broke or wore out) in I guess a bit over 2 years.

Switched to the K on 1/1/08 and have broken 3 or 4 so far (not through breaking in anger just wore out and broke).

I have a little book and I keep track of how many times I string each frame so that they wear evenly.

I have 16 in rotation now, and 3 brand new backup ones. I will probably get 6 more in June or so and have that 9 done so I will probably make it past my orig estimation of 1/1/2010. If that 9 will let me get another year out of the frames, then I will be set.

But I have found that I average about a racquet a month over the course of a year. So if I play with 3 racquets in a rotation, they wear out in 3 months, if I play with 12 in a rotation they last a year.

J

 

[aphex]

But I have found that I average about a racquet a month over the course of a year. So if I play with 3 racquets in a rotation, they wear out in 3 months, if I play with 12 in a rotation they last a year.

J

WOW!! I average 1 racquet/lifetime

 

[J011yroger]

Ya but remember in the summer months it is not unheard of for me to go through 5-6 ALU stringjobs in a week.

J

 

[aphex]

Ya but remember in the summer months it is not unheard of for me to go through 5-6 ALU stringjobs in a week.

J

are you by any chance ernests gulbis?

 

[J011yroger]

are you by any chance ernests gulbis?

Nope, I am much better looking, but not nearly as talented lol.

J

 

[aphex]

lol__________

 

[a-naik.1]

i use a 2hbh..its not that bad, but it does take time to get used to...i think this stick is actually better for my backhand style...I have a similar style, on the bh, like ferrer where he releases his left hand right after impact, except i release on impact.

 

[quest01]

The K90 is not designed for players who use a 2 handed backhand. That's the main reason why I had to sell my K90's is due to a weaker backhand compared to other racquets with a larger head size. Most players who use a 2 handed backhand tend to use mid plus racquets for obvious reasons.

 

[NickC]

The K90 is not designed for players who use a 2 handed backhand. That's the main reason why I had to sell my K90's is due to a weaker backhand compared to other racquets with a larger head size. Most players who use a 2 handed backhand tend to use mid plus racquets for obvious reasons.

Oh? How would you know this? Just because it's flagship user doesn't hit a two-hander doesn't mean sh*t. A ton of players with two-handed backhands use frames built off the PT600, 630, and 660 molds, and almost anyone using a PJ of the latest Prestige (besides Simon) is using a mid, which is a 89sq headsize.

 

[supermario343]

Nope, I am much better looking, but not nearly as talented lol.

J

hahahah too funny... ill take ur 3 brand new k90s off ur hands though, thanks!

 

[J011yroger]

hahahah too funny... ill take ur 3 brand new k90s off ur hands though, thanks!

5/8ths grip, yours for the low low price of...

J

 

[J011yroger]

Oh? How would you know this? Just because it's flagship user doesn't hit a two-hander doesn't mean sh*t. A ton of players with two-handed backhands use frames built off the PT600, 630, and 660 molds, and almost anyone using a PJ of the latest Prestige (besides Simon) is using a mid, which is a 89sq headsize.

Hey!

You were there on the other end of my BH.

Did it seem like I had any problems?

lol

J

 

[NickC]

Hey!

You were there on the other end of my BH.

Did it seem like I had any problems?

lol

J

You almost killed a dude at net on a return, so, no, there were no problems. It looked a bit unorthodox, but it was powerful as hell, which makes up for it!

 

[J011yroger]

You almost killed a dude at net on a return, so, no, there were no problems. It looked a bit unorthodox, but it was powerful as hell, which makes up for it!

lol, most folks play 2 back when I serve or return. I didn't really start to feel warmed up until the put me on that other court with the 2nd group of good guys. Then I started to get loose.

And by the time we hit singles I was ready for action lol.

J

 

[mg.dc]

I play a two-hander using the POG Mid, and I'm pretty sure it has an even shorter grip than the K90. Anyway, whenever I've hit with the K90, I thought it hit a very solid ball with the two-hander. I could drive it nicely. And like someone else said, it's kind of nice that it's a bit short; I like how my top finger wraps around the top part, near the tape, even a little on the frame.

 

[NickC]

lol, most folks play 2 back when I serve or return. I didn't really start to feel warmed up until the put me on that other court with the 2nd group of good guys. Then I started to get loose.

And by the time we hit singles I was ready for action lol.

J

You killed me in singles I went 1 for 3 in those tiebreaks the 4 of us played. Got absolutely killed by you, and lost to the other dude with the K90, but beat Dr. W (the dude with the APDC). Not a good record.

 

[J011yroger]

The dude with the APDC was a good player!

I was his partner in the good dubs match, and he was returning like a champion. He hit some great volleys too, so that was a good win for you.

Guy was a pleasure to play dubs with as a partner, I would be pretty happy you beat him.

J

 

[NickC]

The dude with the APDC was a good player!

I was his partner in the good dubs match, and he was returning like a champion. He hit some great volleys too, so that was a good win for you.

Guy was a pleasure to play dubs with as a partner, I would be pretty happy you beat him.

J

His son is even better :shock:. But all you had to do was move him around and don't let him hit a good shot. I was serving like a champion for when we played singles (including the one ace I threw by you!) and I guess that's what carried me through the match with him. The other dude that used a K90 was damn good too, his backhand was a bit weak for such a flat shot but his forehand was pretty damn good. He was a bit weak off the second serve, but would kill me if I didn't put all of his second serves away (which he did), but he was a great returner and a nice guy to boot. That was a fun hour or so of singles.

 

[J011yroger]

I play a two-hander using the POG Mid, and I'm pretty sure it has an even shorter grip than the K90. Anyway, whenever I've hit with the K90, I thought it hit a very solid ball with the two-hander. I could drive it nicely. And like someone else said, it's kind of nice that it's a bit short; I like how my top finger wraps around the top part, near the tape, even a little on the frame.

Almost identical.

Just a quick pic from the J-Rog secret stash.

J

 

[J011yroger]

His son is even better :shock:. But all you had to do was move him around and don't let him hit a good shot. I was serving like a champion for when we played singles (including the one ace I threw by you!) and I guess that's what carried me through the match with him. The other dude that used a K90 was damn good too, his backhand was a bit weak for such a flat shot but his forehand was pretty damn good. He was a bit weak off the second serve, but would kill me if I didn't put all of his second serves away (which he did), but he was a great returner and a nice guy to boot. That was a fun hour or so of singles.

I forgot you aced me!

Must have been in one of the tiebreakers.

J

 

[NickC]

I forgot you aced me!

Must have been in one of the tiebreakers.

J

Yeah it was during the first round of matches when you and I played and the two other guys were playing. Usually, my serve isn't as good as it was that night. I can usually hit it faster, but not as accurate as I was. My second serve (or complete lack thereof) was decent for once. Go figure!

 

[beckham]

Ya but remember in the summer months it is not unheard of for me to go through 5-6 ALU stringjobs in a week.

J

How do you afford all this J??
I know you have at least a partial with Wilson..and I have heard Luxilon is owned by Wilson...is this true??

-thanks

 

[J011yroger]

How do you afford all this J??
I know you have at least a partial with Wilson..and I have heard Luxilon is owned by Wilson...is this true??

-thanks

It gets expensive, even though I get stringing done cheaply. I plan to play a lot of tourneys this year, and quite frankly am unsure how I am going to be able to afford it. I try to cut back on unneccesary expenses, while still living a fairly comfortable life.

I may have to do some side work coaching or teaching part time to help pay for my tournament expenses.

Still, it is much cheaper than having a kid

J

 

[ledor]

The K90 is not designed for players who use a 2 handed backhand. That's the main reason why I had to sell my K90's is due to a weaker backhand compared to other racquets with a larger head size. Most players who use a 2 handed backhand tend to use mid plus racquets for obvious reasons.

MOST people will not like the K90 for 2hbh. there are a few exceptions, but they are rare. Just go to your local tournaments and look.