Lindsay unretiring again

sureshs

Bionic Poster
have baby retire comeback have baby retire comeback


http://sports.yahoo.com/tennis/news?slug=ap-davenportreturns

Lindsay Davenport to play doubles in California

CARLSBAD, California (AP)—Lindsay Davenport is coming out of retirement to play doubles at a WTA Tour event near San Diego.

Tournament officials said Friday that Davenport has accepted a wild card to play with fellow American Liezel Huber at the Mercury Insurance Open from July 31-Aug. 8 at La Costa Resort and Spa in Carlsbad, California.

Davenport hasn’t played in a tournament since the 2008 U.S. Open, when she reached the third round in singles and doubles. She was ranked No. 1 in the world in 2001, 2004 and 2005, and is a three-time major champion.

Davenport and Huber played together at the 2008 Beijing Olympics, reaching the quarterfinals in doubles.

Davenport won singles titles at La Costa in 1998 and 2004, and also twice won the doubles.
 

halalula1234

Professional
Great news!!! davenport one of the vintage players thats coming back!!! i like her flaty shots. but she wont be able to win a slam in singles again due to her age and movement. doubles maybe she can win ?
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
I miss Lindsay, wish she would give singles one more run, especially considering the lack of depth in the WTA.
 

Fee

Legend
She's doing this for a few reasons -
1 - these events are in California, close to home for her.
2 - she's doing TV for those events so she'll be there anyway.
3 - it's doubles, not singles, and she'll be playing a few WTT matches as well before that. and
4 - why not help these tournaments sell a few tickets if she still has that power.
 

Centered

Hall of Fame
Even if she did she wouldnt do well. Her final slam she got destroyed by Bartoli and she is only older now.
Henin was beaten by Bartoli, too, and yet made the final of the AO after coming back.

Davenport can still be dangerous on grass, as long as she's not injured. It's unfortunate that there is practically no grass season anymore. Otherwise, she could skip the hard court events to keep her foot in good shape and focus on grass tournaments. Not having a real grass season is a big problem for older players, especially WTA players.
 

thalivest

Banned
Henin was beaten by Bartoli, too, and yet made the final of the AO after coming back.

Davenport can still be dangerous on grass, as long as she's not injured. It's unfortunate that there is practically no grass season anymore. Otherwise, she could skip the hard court events to keep her foot in good shape and focus on grass tournaments. Not having a real grass season is a big problem for older players, especially WTA players.

Henin's loss to Bartoli was a huge choke and the fluke of the decade, and it was in a semifinal indicating the career tournament Bartoli was having. Davenport's 3rd round loss to Bartoli was a straight sets beatdown which included a breadstick (Bartoli would be easily beaten herself next round), and was just the expected result for her diminished abilities at that point in time.

You cant seriously compare Davenport to Henin at this point. Henin's comeback hasnt even gone well for her yet, yet Davenport is 6 years older.
 

Centered

Hall of Fame
Henin's loss to Bartoli was a huge choke and the fluke of the decade, and it was in a semifinal indicating the career tournament Bartoli was having. Davenport's 3rd round loss to Bartoli was a straight sets beatdown which included a breadstick (Bartoli would be easily beaten herself next round), and was just the expected result for her diminished abilities at that point in time.

You cant seriously compare Davenport to Henin at this point. Henin's comeback hasnt even gone well for her yet, yet Davenport is 6 years older.
If Davenport is injured, then her age is going to be a serious matter on grass. Otherwise, she's taller and more powerful than Henin and better suited to grass courts -- despite her age.

Remember that Navratilova won at Wimbledon at 33 and got to a final at 37. Novotna was 30 or around that when she won. Age isn't as big of a factor in women's tennis as it is in men's -- especially on grass. Kimiko Date at 39 years old was beating the teenage Wozniacki at the last Wimbledon until she got injured. Is it likely that Davenport will make another slam final? No. Was it likely that Schiavone would make a slam final? No.

Can I compare Davenport and Henin? Certainly. And, saying Henin's comeback hasn't gone well is questionable. I think making the AO final is a big achievement myself. And, contrary to what people say about WTA depth, I'd say there's more of it right now than there is usually.
 
Navratilova is the ultimate anomaly when talking about players having success at an older age - people throw it out there as if we don't remember the fact that Navra was a fitness freak and probably one of the fittest players in WTA history. That's why she was able to play into her late 30s and 40s even.

Davenport on the other hand was never known for her fitness. After 2 kids, it's hard to see her pulling a Clijsters and winning a major in singles. These players went out near their highest levels, while Davenport left when she was ranked in the mid 20s if that and no longer a serious slam threat. It's hard to think that now she'll magically return to singles and be any sort of a factor, even at Wimbledon. Good luck in doubles though.
 

thalivest

Banned
If Davenport is injured, then her age is going to be a serious matter on grass. Otherwise, she's taller and more powerful than Henin and better suited to grass courts -- despite her age.

Remember that Navratilova won at Wimbledon at 33 and got to a final at 37. Novotna was 30 or around that when she won. Age isn't as big of a factor in women's tennis as it is in men's -- especially on grass. Kimiko Date at 39 years old was beating the teenage Wozniacki at the last Wimbledon until she got injured. Is it likely that Davenport will make another slam final? No. Was it likely that Schiavone would make a slam final? No.

Can I compare Davenport and Henin? Certainly. And, saying Henin's comeback hasn't gone well is questionable. I think making the AO final is a big achievement myself. And, contrary to what people say about WTA depth, I'd say there's more of it right now than there is usually.

Navratilova is not a good reference point. First of all Navratilova was the latest blooming great player in tennis history by far. At the age of 25 she had won only 2 slam singles titles. She was an athletic and fitness freak like JBF said. There is virtually no chance of anyone ever coming close to MN's late age success, let alone Davenport after 2 retirements now.

No you cant compare Davenport to Henin if you are doing it as using Henin as any barometer of what Davenport could do. Henin is 27 years old, Davenport is 33. A world of difference. Henin also has been a better player than Davenport for many years now, even when Davenport was still near the top before her first retirement. Henin hasnt lost to Davenport since 2001 now, and beat her something like 8 times in a row when Davenport was still in her 20s.

And no Henin's comeback hasnt gone well. She failed to win the French, and has won only 1 tournament overall. Those 2 things alone are already enough to say her comeback has gone poorly for her. And the WTA is not strong now, if it was why would you even be entertaining the idea of 33 year old Davenport coming back with any success at all.


Lastly even if we are talking about only Wimbledon the most ultra late blooming player in history- Navratilova, was still losing to 15 year old Capriati at Wimbledon at age 34 (the age Davenport will be by next years Wimbledon), and Linda Harvey Wild on grass at age 35. And Davenport is no Navratilova.
 
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Fedace

Banned
Somebody tell her she is too fat to make a comeback. all that commentating doesn't burn enough fat.
 
lol she wrote on her twitter:

@LDavenport76
Excited to play some dubs this summer at 2 tourneys..Stanford and La Costa. But I'm not coming back! Just playing those 2 in CA for fun!!
 

Centered

Hall of Fame
The bottom line is that if she can avoid further injury and gets into decent shape she can do well in tournaments.

Aside from physical ailments, there is nothing stopping her from working hard on her fitness.

Navratilova was a "late bloomer" because she developed her extreme fitness/practice regimen late in her career.
 
The bottom line is that if she can avoid further injury and gets into decent shape she can do well in tournaments.

Aside from physical ailments, there is nothing stopping her from working hard on her fitness.

Navratilova was a "late bloomer" because she developed her extreme fitness/practice regimen late in her career.

You obviously understimate the toll having not one, but 2 kids takes on the body.

And Davenport's never been about fitness, to suggest that suddenly going to turn into a fitness godess and set the WTA on fire is wishful thinking to say the least.
 

Tennis Fan

Rookie
Oh brother, her again too?! Who's next, Hingis? Davenport must know that she can probably never win a major again. If she returns, it's only for the pure enjoyment of playing again.
 

Camilio Pascual

Hall of Fame
...people throw it out there as if we don't remember the fact that Navra was a fitness freak and probably one of the fittest players in WTA history.
I also remember how even before that she was conspicuously overweight and did not have good endurance. She put in the hard work and reaped the rewards.
 

Moose Malloy

G.O.A.T.
I had no idea she was entered here. and she's doing commentary as well.

WIMBLEDON, England (AP)—Returning to Wimbledon gave Lindsay Davenport a slight case of stage fright.

The three-time Grand Slam champion overcame her butterflies and teamed with Bob Bryan to win in the first round of mixed doubles Friday, beating Aisam-ul-Haq Qureshi and Alla Kudryavtseva 7-6 (3), 6-3.

The tournament is Davenport’s first since the 2008 U.S. Open, when she reached the third round in singles and doubles.

“I’m a little nervous and stressed out,” she said with a laugh. “I was getting sick to my stomach before we went out there, like, ‘What are we doing?’ But I miss having a purpose at home on some days, so it was fun getting up to practice for this.”

Davenport, 34, is the mother of two. She won the singles title at Wimbledon in 1999.

“It’s a comeback, but it’s not like a full-on comeback,” she said. “It’s doubles.”

“Double dipping,” Bryan said.

Davenport plans to play women’s doubles in two tournaments this summer in her native California, but has no tour events on her schedule beyond that. She said she definitely won’t play at the U.S. Open.

Bryan and Davenport are unseeded at Wimbledon and low-key about their chances.

“We have low expectations,” Bryan said. “No pressure.”

But he gave Davenport a rave review for her first-round performance.

“She played great,” he said. “You can’t take away the ball striking, and that is what has always impressed me about Lindsay—the way the ball comes off her racket, and the sound. It was a pleasure to be on the court with her.”
 

davey25

Banned
If Hingis and Davenport want to play doubles again that is fine, but neither should delude themselves they can ever be competitive in singles again. Hingis has been past her prime for a long time now, and Davenport is just too old considering the amount of time she has been mostly retired. The results for either in singles would be even worse than their last comebacks, which were not so hot in the first place.
 

Tyrus

Professional
Davenport made some good shots and a few too many errors. She should be thankful to have Bob Bryan as a doubles partner, he carried her well and even some body language showed him a bit angry with her at times.

Made my mom feel good to see, but Bob Bryan won today's match single-handedly.
 

Moose Malloy

G.O.A.T.
^well, in mixed the man is supposed to be the stronger player you know. I saw some of his matches with Martina at the '06 USO & he was basically doing everything.
 

davey25

Banned
I can see Hingis having success in singles again. Davenport not so much because of movement.

What do you define as "success"? Hingis in her last go around in singles played 7 slams. She made the quarters of 3, losing to a retiring and relatively unmotivated Clijsters in all 3, and the other 4 she lost 3rd round or sooner including to a 16 year old Vaidisova, Granville, Rezai, and Sugiyama. She went a combined 1-10 vs Sharapova, Henin, Clijsters, and Mauresmo, even while the Williams were in their funk and minimal factors. She also had built a losing streak to Patty Schnyder. That was 4 years ago. Good luck to her now.

If I had to choose between the two I would even say the 34 year old Davenport would have more chance to be dangerous and do some very minimal damage than a 30 year old Hingis (presuming a return to singles for either wouldnt be until the very start of next year at the earliest). Davenport can atleast probably still overpower alot of people.
 

Fee

Legend
If Hingis and Davenport want to play doubles again that is fine, but neither should delude themselves they can ever be competitive in singles again. Hingis has been past her prime for a long time now, and Davenport is just too old considering the amount of time she has been mostly retired. The results for either in singles would be even worse than their last comebacks, which were not so hot in the first place.

If you read Lindsay's twitter comments and any other public comments she has made you'd see that she is under no delusions. She is only interested in playing doubles, and only if she can help the tournaments in some by being there. She accepted the Wimbledon wildcard because she knew she was already going to be there working for the BBC.
 

Polaris

Hall of Fame
If you read Lindsay's twitter comments and any other public comments she has made you'd see that she is under no delusions. She is only interested in playing doubles, and only if she can help the tournaments in some by being there. She accepted the Wimbledon wildcard because she knew she was already going to be there working for the BBC.

The thing is, Fee, that davey25 thinks only in terms of Slams, not in terms of tennis. Hence, Patty Schnyder is not a talented player but a "still slamless Schnyder" in his book. Murray is not a thinking tennis player but a "slamless clown Murray" in his world. He only likes people who are hot at a particular time. Hence, justineheninhoogenbandfan coincided with the rise of Justine Henin, but with her retirement and return, that ID has given way to the long retired davey25. federerfanatic coincided with the prime of Roger Federer, but in his twilight, there is little use for that ID.

Thus, the opportunity of seeing Lindsay play again is of no consequence to him. He likes men and women with Slam silverware, the others are relegated to being clowns :) .
 

Fee

Legend
The thing is, Fee, that davey25 thinks only in terms of Slams, not in terms of tennis. Hence, Patty Schnyder is not a talented player but a "still slamless Schnyder" in his book. Murray is not a thinking tennis player but a "slamless clown Murray" in his world. He only likes people who are hot at a particular time. Hence, justineheninhoogenbandfan coincided with the rise of Justine Henin, but with her retirement and return, that ID has given way to the long retired davey25. federerfanatic coincided with the prime of Roger Federer, but in his twilight, there is little use for that ID.

Thus, the opportunity of seeing Lindsay play again is of no consequence to him. He likes men and women with Slam silverware, the others are relegated to being clowns :) .

Oh crud, I didn't really look at the username when I posted that reply. I promised myself I would never respond to him and his 32 usernames. That guy must be really good using proxies and stuff to get around a ban, too bad his talents can't be used for good somehow.

Thanks for the heads up. :)
 

Moose Malloy

G.O.A.T.
CARLSBAD, California (AP)—Lindsay Davenport is coming out of retirement to play doubles at a WTA Tour event near San Diego.

Tournament officials said Friday that Davenport has accepted a wild card to play with fellow American Liezel Huber at the Mercury Insurance Open from July 31-Aug. 8 at La Costa Resort and Spa in Carlsbad, California

she won it:

In the doubles final, Lindsay Davenport and fellow American Liezel Huber beat Chan Yung-jan of Taiwan and Zheng Jie of China 7-5, 6-7 (8), 10-8.

It was Davenport’s first WTA victory since winning singles and doubles at Memphis in 2008.
 

jones101

Hall of Fame
She's doing this for a few reasons -
1 - these events are in California, close to home for her.
2 - she's doing TV for those events so she'll be there anyway.
3 - it's doubles, not singles, and she'll be playing a few WTT matches as well before that. and
4 - why not help these tournaments sell a few tickets if she still has that power.

Ageed, and she will enjoy the buzz of a competitive match again. Good luck to her, she should have good results in doubs. hope she playes the doubles GS's too.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
She played and won the doubles at Stanford with Liezel Huber. After the match, son Jagger came running into the court to give her a kiss
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
Lastly even if we are talking about only Wimbledon the most ultra late blooming player in history- Navratilova, was still losing to 15 year old Capriati at Wimbledon at age 34 (the age Davenport will be by next years Wimbledon), and Linda Harvey Wild on grass at age 35. And Davenport is no Navratilova.

Agreed. Whare can LD go on grass that will not (eventually) lead to a date with a few women with the ability to wipe the floor with her? I would go so far to bet even a strategy-challenged player like Wozniacki would school Davenport in the latter's current shape.
 

cork_screw

Hall of Fame
Give it a rest Lindsay, you couldn't move when you came back the second time, you didn't get younger during the time off.
 

Centered

Hall of Fame
If players want to compete on crutches, that's their prerogative. I'm tired of all the lounge chair critics telling people they're too old or too whatever to play if they choose to.

If Davenport, Hingis, or Date want to compete, that's their business. Date is showing that being 40 doesn't mean one can't have game. She just took Dementieva to three sets, 2 hours and 16 minutes.

If Hingis were to adopt a Navratilova-style extreme fitness and coaching regimen, maybe she could come back and do well? Who knows... Davenport's foot is always going to be a problem, which is why it's too bad there's no real grass season.
 

Wolland

Rookie
If players want to compete on crutches, that's their prerogative. I'm tired of all the lounge chair critics telling people they're too old or too whatever to play if they choose to.

If Davenport, Hingis, or Date want to compete, that's their business. Date is showing that being 40 doesn't mean one can't have game. She just took Dementieva to three sets, 2 hours and 16 minutes.

If Hingis were to adopt a Navratilova-style extreme fitness and coaching regimen, maybe she could come back and do well? Who knows... Davenport's foot is always going to be a problem, which is why it's too bad there's no real grass season.

I agree with you. I'm sick and tired of "he/she should retire" threads.
 
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