My thoughts on the Nole Slam

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lucky13

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16950 points is another impressive record that nole has and for which he did not have enough credit, if at all!!!
 
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big ted

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lucky13 said:
16950 points is another impressive record that nole has and for which he did not have enough credit, if at all!!!
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you’re right but its his own fault for being so unlikable. if roger or rafa did it the atp would prob put together a congratulatory video from all the other players lol
 
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pj80

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Nole Slam said:
The Grand Slam is obviously the greater achievement. I think that the better question would be how much greater the CYGS should be than the NCYGS. I have never seen the special achievement being more ignored than the Nole Slam is on this forum. Some reasons for that could be...

1. Novak Djokovic is simply not Roger Federer
2. Weak era

The weak era, Murray lol. I don't think that Djokovic should be punished this much for winning 4 Slams in a row facing weaker competition. His level of play was still pretty high anyway. And besides, this man won 3 Slams in a row 3 times. Therefore, winning Slams in a row is not something that he could only achieve with pure luck.

Anyway, I think that the Nole Slam shall be more appreciated in 50 years. The objective tennis observers shall not forget that the Serb managed to win the 4 in a row since the great Rod Laver.

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weaker then whose competition? Federer's? LOL....
 
beard

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big ted said:
it really isnt an opinion, rafa lost to djoko at monte carlo, fognini at barcelona, murray at madrid, warwinka at italy, and djoko at FO.. all on clay that year..
not sure why your talking about this anyway.. djokos FO win over rafa wasnt even part of his nole slam so whats the difference?
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In your logic Fed never won RG, because he didn't beat Rafa... ;)
 
beard

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junior74 said:
You're allowed to believe that. I personally think many versions of Federer would have beaten Rafa in 2015.

Nole's Nole slam is a great effort. It still feels a little strange Stan was the man who stood in his way for the CYGS.
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Stan is fantastic player when he's on fire... On par with peak big 3... He, together with Murray is downed here by Fed fans as part of weak eras story... Shame...
 
mike danny

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Federer wasn't. 2015 Federer wasn't beating Nadal at RG. No version of Federer can defeat 2015 Nadal at RG. Nadal's game is suited to destroy the one-handed backhand from the Swiss. Federer could have defeated 2015 Nadal in Rome or Madrid; that is, smaller courts where Nadal can't defend as well as in the bigger Phillippe Chatrier. In the PC, Nadal has more time to reach defensive balls and becomes unbeatable for the Swiss.
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Pure comedy gold. Keep it up (y)
 
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Chronos

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4 in row is a 4 in a row. I don't see any difference between CYGS and NCYGS. In the end you are the holder of 4 majors simultaneously.
I agree that since 2015 we have the way weaker field but nonetheless if it was Federer or Nadal who achieved 4 in a row in 2015-16, it would have been mentioned way more then it is now.
 
NoleIsBoat

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Federer had his chance in 2004 and 2009/2010 but he lost slams to Kuerten and Del potro type players, while Djokovic defeated better players than those in Murray and Federer.
 
DSH

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Fantastic accomplishment but let's say a tennis player obtain immediate immortality when he wins the Grand Slam, something that as we all know, Rod Laver has only achieved in the Open Era.
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DSH said:
Fantastic achievement but let's say a tennis player achieves immediate immortality when he wins the Grand Slam, something that as we all know, Rod Laver has only achieved in the Open Era.
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So Laver is a vampire while Djokovic is a vampire/human hybrid.
 
BeatlesFan

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CYGS said:
He did beat Rafa at RG right before his streak. The same can't be said about Fed.
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In a similar vein, Federer won the FO when Rafa was in the draw and Roger proceeded to defeat the man who beat Nadal in the final. When Djokovic won the FO, Nadal wasn't even in the draw. Not that any of that matters, it's used to show how insane all these anti-Fed haters arguments are.

The Nole slam is indeed an underrated achievement, but the CYGS is the gold standard and the much bigger deal, obviously. Only one man has done it in the past 51 years and no male player has come remotely close to replicating it since then, By "close" I mean getting to the semis or finals of the USO after having won the first three legs of the grand slam. I think the player who came "closest" (heavy quotations) was Wilander after having won both the AO and FO, but then lost in the QF's of Wimbledon. In 2016, Novak lost to Querrey in the third round being two legs up on the grand slam.
 
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lucky13

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DSH said:
Fantastic accomplishment but let's say a tennis player obtain immediate immortality when he wins the Grand Slam, something that as we all know, Rod Laver has only achieved in the Open Era.
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Exactly, while 4 in a row on 3 different surfaces have been achieved so many times, unlike Lavers thing!

BeatlesFan said:
The Nole slam is indeed an underrated achievement, but the CYGS is the gold standard and the much bigger deal, obviously. Only one man has done it in the past 51 years and no male player has come remotely close to replicating it since then, By "close" I mean getting to the semis or finals of the USO after having won the first three legs of the grand slam. I think the player who came "closest" (heavy quotations) was Wilander after having won both the AO and FO, but then lost in the QF's of Wimbledon. In 2016, Novak lost to Querrey in the third round being two legs up on the grand slam.
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I think there would be many more who have come close to this after Laver if they continued to have 3 slams on grass and one on clay. Especially if some players was lucky that one of them had been played in their home country with a 48 players draw without many of the best players.
 
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DSH

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lucky13 said:
Nole won on 3 different surfaces with 128 players on ich slam, Laver did not!
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If Djokovic had done it in the same year, I would put it above "Rocket"; unfortunately for him and his fans, we saw that he couldn't make it when he failed miserably at Wimbledon 2016 by losing in the third round to Sam Querrey.
The only Grand Slam in the Open Era remains Rod Laver's.
Check out this to soak up a bit of history:
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lucky13 said:
Exactly, while 4 in a row on 3 different surfaces have been achieved so many times, unlike Lavers thing!
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...and not a single fast surface among them.

However, it is a great accomplishment, regardless.

It‘s not a grand slam, but it’s something. There needs to be a better name for winning all 4 majors, not in a calendar year. NCYGS is clunky, and it’s not a grand slam. Nole Slam is better, but it’s better when the accomplishment isn’t named after the person.
 
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