Nadal is GOAT volleyer according to Sinner

[Yugram]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1378652061533794309

Is he wrong?

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Best on the tour.

 

[weakera]

Well, he ain't the GOAT for nothing

 

[Deleted member 771911]

McEnroe says so, too.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Nadal has the good volleys.

 

[MeatTornado]

Where does it say he's picking from all time?

 

[SinneGOAT]

Is he wrong?

His approach and getting his opponents out of position is goat, however when those aren’t good his volleys are not GOAT material. Pretty good, but not as good as Fed. Not in the top 20 of all time even.

 

[Deleted member 781040]

Wrong. Volley GOAT is clearly Baghdatis

 

[The Blond Blur]

Nadal is GOAT volleyer according to Sinner

The next ATG has spoken @Lleytonstation

 

[Hitman]

Sinner understands the good tennis.

Seriously though, Nadal has some great hands at the net.

 

[Jonesy]

Nadal just know when to go up the net, not like a headless chicken that gets passed eveytime.

 

[Rosstour]

Nadal is good at net, with great hands...but he doesn't hit the best volleys.

Outside of overheads and drop volleys, his repertoire at net is limited.

 

[Slowtwitcher]

Nadal is a very good volleyer. Not as good as Federer but miles ahead of Djoke.

 

[Raiden]

He gave best forehand and best backhand to Fed and Djoker so Sin had to give best something else to Nadal

The remaining hard strokes were either serve or volley — he chose the latter

 

[Graf1stClass]

I don't understand the interest in this person.

 

[Lleytonstation]

Nadal is GOAT volleyer according to Sinner

The next ATG has spoken @Lleytonstation

The power one dimensional guy shouldn't even talk about volleys since he doesn't know what they are.

 

[Lleytonstation]

I don't understand the interest in this person.

Desperation and propaganda.

 

[Jason Swerve]

Desperation and propaganda.

Mainly the desperation part.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Since Sinner comes to the net just to shake hands, who gives af about what he thinks about volleys? If he had any interest in that aspect of tennis he would volley more than 3 times a year.

 

[SonnyT]

I disagree with the mental strength. Djokovic is #2 on 5-set win %, to Borg. Nadal has been sliding the list for years. In '17-18, he lost 4 straight 5-set matches!

Djokovic is top 3 in TB win %, along with Isner and Federer, 2 great servers. Nadal is down the list!

Just look at 5-set matches among B3: Djokovic-Nadal 2-1; Djokovic-Federer 4-0; Federer-Nadal 2-2

Nadal has had the case of the nerves in many recent matches, that he should've won: '17 ag AO Federer; '20 AO ag Thiem; '21 AO ag Tsisipas

 

[Sudacafan]

Wrong. Volley GOAT is clearly Baghdatis

Remember what I said about trolling yesterday?

 

[Sudacafan]

Nadal is good at net, with great hands...but he doesn't hit the best volleys.

Outside of overheads and drop volleys, his repertoire at net is limited.

Drop volleys already have a master, sorry.

 

[Sudacafan]

I don't understand the interest in this person.

Currently, he is the only ATP player younger than 20 that can win four or five matches in a row.

 

[ForehandCross]

Even Guys like Llodra, Mahut were miles miles better than either Fedal but never get their due. It's funny to see Mischa Zverev make 100s of volleys in a match and then never be in discussion of best volleyer on tour.

 

[Deleted member 781040]

Remember what I said about trolling yesterday?

Baghdatis is a beast. Don't underestimate Marcos the Maestro

 

[JustMy2Cents]

Since Sinner comes to the net just to shake hands, who gives af about what he thinks about volleys? If he had any interest in that aspect of tennis he would volley more than 3 times a year.

McEnroe probably knows a thing or 2 about volleys one would guess and he repeatedly says Rafa is the best volleyer!

 

[Backspin1183]

Sinner is a Nadal fan. Many of the NextGen players are his fans.

While Nadal has very good volleys, there are others on tour who often volley more and at times better than him.

 

[D.Nalby12]

Even Fed ain't GOAT volleyer. There were many better than him. And idea of Clay grinder who comes on net once in 15 matches - being best volleyer is laughable.

 

[daphne]

If Nadl were a good volleyer he would have won the Miami title. Without it he is out of the GOAT race.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Well, he ain't the GOAT for nothing

 

[ForehandRF]

I disagree with the mental strength. Djokovic is #2 on 5-set win %, to Borg. Nadal has been sliding the list for years. In '17-18, he lost 4 straight 5-set matches!

Djokovic is top 3 in TB win %, along with Isner and Federer, 2 great servers. Nadal is down the list!

Just look at 5-set matches among B3: Djokovic-Nadal 2-1; Djokovic-Federer 4-0; Federer-Nadal 2-2

Nadal has had the case of the nerves in many recent matches, that he should've won: '17 ag AO Federer; '20 AO ag Thiem; '21 AO ag Tsisipas

Federer - Nadal record is 3-3 in 5 set matches.
Djokovic narrowly escaped in 3 out of 4 5 setters against Federer.

 

[clayqueen]

His approach and getting his opponents out of position is goat, however when those aren’t good his volleys are not GOAT material. Pretty good, but not as good as Fed. Not in the top 20 of all time even.

I think your imagination is getting the better of you.

 

[clayqueen]

Sinner understands the good tennis.

Seriously though, Nadal has some great hands at the net.

The best hands at the net. I think playing doubles has helped Rafa's volleying skills a lot. Right now he is the best. He knows exactly when to play a volley. Some people confuse this with S&V as in Micha Zverev but that's not what we are talking about.

 

[Hitman]

The best hands at the net. I think playing doubles has helped Rafa's volleying skills a lot. Right now he is the best. He knows exactly when to play a volley. Some people confuse this with S&V as in Micha Zverev but that's not what we are talking about.

I do think Nadal's handskills get underrated at times for sure. I mean he beat Thiem at RG 2018 at the net.

 

[Graf1stClass]

Currently, he is the only ATP player younger than 20 that can win four or five matches in a row.

That's... Nothing

 

[Third Serve]

I do think Nadal's handskills get underrated at times for sure. I mean he beat Thiem at RG 2018 at the net.

To be fair, he could have played any style and he'd still beat RG 2018 final Thiem.

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[vive le beau jeu !]

ok, that might explain some of his volleys yesterday...

 

[Hitman]

To be fair, he could have played any style and he'd still beat RG 2018 final Thiem.

Ken Rosewall approves this comment.

True, but he played that way because he was getting tired and could not compete from the baseline, so he carved him up at the net.

 

[BorgTheGOAT]

Nadal does not even have better volleys than Fed, let alone best of all time. This stupid statement from Sinner again shows that you should not take everything professional tennis player say as gospel. Unfortunately we have some folks here who think that every opinion of pros automatically trumps whatever we normal fans say, simply because they are pros.

 

[octobrina10]

ok, that might explain some of his volleys yesterday...

Did he volley? Your comrade (a Fed devotee) said above he comes to the net just to shake hands...

 

[Deleted member 770948]

2019 Wimbledon Final had 422 points.
Federer came to the net 65 times (won 51).

2019 US Open Final had 341 points.
Nadal came to the net 66 times (won 51).

 

[Bumbaliceps]

He didn't even talk about any goat stuff

 

[Novichok]

Jannik Sinner is uneducated and ignorant.

 

[Novichok]

2019 Wimbledon Final had 422 points.
Federer came to the net 65 times (won 51).

2019 US Open Final had 341 points.
Nadal came to the net 66 times (won 51).

Maybe because Djo-covid hits better passing shots and forces more errors than Mugdvedev.
If you want to make a comparison, remember that in W 2018 SF, Nadal came to the net 50 times in 386 points (won 37).

 

[Third Serve]

2019 Wimbledon Final had 422 points.
Federer came to the net 65 times (won 51).

2019 US Open Final had 341 points.
Nadal came to the net 66 times (won 51).

lol the number of times you keep peddling these stats...

 

[TennisFan3]

Incorrect. Federer is a better volleyer than Nadal. It's not even close.
Sinner already had Fed for the best forehand, so gotta have someone else, no?

 

[ibbi]

Guy literally wasn’t even born in the 20th century? He seems to have spent more time learning to play tennis than watching old matches on YouTube so what do you expect him to say? He wasn’t even born when Federer beat Sampras at Wimbledon! He knows nothing!

 

[Sysyphus]

In the current top 20 there is a grand total of ONE player who approaches the net less than Nadal in Tennis Abstract's database -- Diego Schwartzman. That list includes several players suffering a serious case of net allergy, including PCB, RBA, Rublev, Zverev, Medvedev.

While he undeniably has competent hands at the net, I find it impossible to name him the best volleyer of this era (let alone all time) when he is that selective.

 

[Jason Swerve]

Did he volley? Your comrade (a Fed devotee) said above he comes to the net just to shake hands...

Thanks, I forgot to like that post.

 

[Jason Swerve]

In the current top 20 there is a grand total of ONE player who approaches the net less than Nadal in Tennis Abstract's database -- Diego Schwartzman. That list includes several players suffering a serious case of net allergy, including PCB, RBA, Rublev, Zverev, Medvedev.

While he undeniably has competent hands at the net, I find it impossible to name him the best volleyer of this era (let alone all time) when he is that selective.

Ah, but you aren't giving the Medman enough credit. Look at his expert Wikipedia entry:

Medvedev is a defensive baseliner based on mirroring his opponent's play.[3] His playstyle incorporates strong returns with as few mistakes as possible and making games unpredictable.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniil_Medvedev#cite_note-5

He specializes in the shadow style of tennis. He only appears to be afraid of the net because his opponents are. If a modern Sampras were good enough to make it to his rounds, you'd see his sharp, unpredictable approaches and half volleys.