Nadal seems to be a bit sarcastic about his loss - WATCH (bad loser??)

[goforgold99]

Look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glF5dwAqAWI

when Nadal gives his speech at 02:25 he says: First of all I want to congratulate Roger. Very good tournament and.... good luck in the French

this comes across really sarcastictal for me.

also in the press conference: http://dtb-tennis.rent-a-cluster.net/rm/r-nadal_20-05-07.rm

Nadal doesn't seem to be a good loser. He say's more that one time indirectly that he lost because "he wasn't 100%". Also at the end he seems to be justifying himself and even had to shut himself up. He wanted to continue saying sth. and then suddenly stopped.. :roll:

I don't know but this seems to me that the loss really gets to him..

 

[jelle v]

I actually found his speech to be very sportsmanlike..

If I remember correctly he also said something like "if I had to lose from someone it had to be him".

 

[Pro Staff Pete]

That's what he says indeed. No sarcasm imo.

 

[Nadal_Freak]

Yeah Nadal hates losing as he admits to in the Press Conference. He respects Federer a lot though.

 

[DueSouth]

Lol im sure the 'good luck at the french' was a little sarcastic,but most of what he says comes across as just him being a good sportsman...i know him and federer both have a huge amount of respect for eachother.

 

[avmoghe]

Unbelievable....I find it saddening the words of a person can be twisted and such a way. There was nothing sarcastic about Nadal's speech. He was an extremely gracious loser.

I think he even something to the effect of 'if there's a man that was going to stop the streak of wins, it had to be Federer'.

Both Federer and Nadal have tremendous respect for each other. Wishing some other player good luck at a tournament indeed hid a conflict of interest (just like every time some other player wishes someone good luck).... but there was absolutely no sarcasm.

 

[drakulie]

You need to remember his primary language is not English, so his cadence may come across that way. But he was not being sarcastic. He is a very classy guy.

 

[War Safin!]

Even if he'd said "First of all I want to congratulate Roger. Very good tournament and.... I'll get my own back on you in the French!!"...
What's wrong with that?

 

[simi]

You need to remember his primary language is not English, so his cadence may come across that way. But he was not being sarcastic. He is a very classy guy.

Kid's sure come far in the past two years. Remember, not so long ago, he could barely speak English. Now, he is giving post-match interviews, after a German tournament, in English. I expected a Spanish interview. Fed, sure, German is one of his native languages. But Rafa?

His comment about 'good luck in the French' was just friendly, competitive banter. Sort of like, "you got me this time...we'll see about next time". Nothing sinister about it. Just friendly competition between the two. They're good buds and have the utmost respect for each other.

 

[darkblue]

no sarcasm here...

it's interesting that there are nadal-haters who take any chance he/she can get to take a swipe at nadal

 

[oscar_2424]

another useless thread...

 

[tennisguy2121]

very useless thread indeed. i was watching it waiting for him to be a jerk, and after i watched it i was thinking wow he was really polite and respectful. But hey, whatever floats your boat i guess.

 

[Rabbit]

I thought he did an excellent job, especially when he said something to the effect of "if I had to lose, this is the man to lose to..."

 

[goforgold99]

Maybe I was beeing sarcastic also, I don't know..

 

[ATXtennisaddict]

404 sarcasm not found

Nadal is an awesome dude.

 

[pmata814]

No sarcasm at all. He has trouble translating into English and maybe that's why you percieve his comments as such but he does say: "If I was going to lose my streak...who better than him because HE IS THE MAN." he actually said this I'm not making it up. If that's not admitting that the other guy is better then I don't know what more you want.

 

[mileslong]

You need to remember his primary language is not English, so his cadence may come across that way. But he was not being sarcastic. He is a very classy guy.

people need to remember that english is neither ones primary language. and certain inflection and sentence structure can sound perhaps a bit different then they intend. i dont think nadal said anything wrong and i agree that they are both good sportsman. its like when federer says that the results from my side of the court were outstanding today, thats not bragging or being arrogant as many of you say, he is simply saying in slang english that i played great today.

 

[35ft6]

Federer does respect Nadal, I believe that, but he HATES being in this position and he DOES, I think, throw in some digs at him in between his graciousness.

Like how he puts Nadal's streak into context, saying that perhaps his streaks on multiple surfaces is harder to achieve, but Nadal's clay court streak is impressive. Stuff like that.

Part of it is I think Federer is pretty candid. Most of what he says, if not all, even when arrogant, is true. I think his truthfulness is jarring to Americans used to canned responses from inarticulate athletes. You know "leave it on the field" and "give it 110 percent." Blegh. Andy Roddick is a good interview though.

 

[Mark Vessels]

I actually found his speech to be very sportsmanlike..

If I remember correctly he also said something like "if I had to lose from someone it had to be him".

I thought he said if he had to lose anywhere it had to be here. :grin:

 

[OrangeOne]

Federer does respect Nadal, I believe that, but he HATES being in this position and he DOES, I think, throw in some digs at him in between his graciousness.

Like how he puts Nadal's streak into context, saying that perhaps his streaks on multiple surfaces is harder to achieve, but Nadal's clay court streak is impressive. Stuff like that.

Part of it is I think Federer is pretty candid. Most of what he says, if not all, even when arrogant, is true. I think his truthfulness is jarring to Americans used to canned responses from inarticulate athletes. You know "leave it on the field" and "give it 110 percent." Blegh. Andy Roddick is a good interview though.

I am impressed that Federer is able to move beyond the annoying stuff Rafa does when complimenting him! I like Nadal's tennis ability, and his competitiveness, but I hate the gamesmanship. I know this has been talked about ad infinitum, but the deliberate and rude gamesmanship - that would pee me off to be honest.

"I'm honored to have broken Nadal's streak, he's such a great player on clay, 81 wins is amazing.... now if only he could get to the coin toss on time and stop taking the annoying toilet break just before we walk out"

 

[@wright]

Nadal realized that next year he will be hanging out in the quad with a backpack and asking out cheerleaders.

 

[Phil]

Look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glF5dwAqAWI

when Nadal gives his speech at 02:25 he says: First of all I want to congratulate Roger. Very good tournament and.... good luck in the French

this comes across really sarcastictal for me.

also in the press conference: http://dtb-tennis.rent-a-cluster.net/rm/r-nadal_20-05-07.rm

Nadal doesn't seem to be a good loser. He say's more that one time indirectly that he lost because "he wasn't 100%". Also at the end he seems to be justifying himself and even had to shut himself up. He wanted to continue saying sth. and then suddenly stopped.. :roll:

I don't know but this seems to me that the loss really gets to him..

A good loser is...a loser.

 

[armand]

Wow Nadal's English has improved a lot since last I heard him[maybe last summer]. He used to just want to get questions done with very quickly but his latest one at Germany he was elaborating and going on. Good on him.

 

[Mahboob Khan]

Here is a guy who was unbeatable on clay. This time around Federer beat him in three sets. Quite frankly I did not find any sarcasm and/or arrogance in Nadal's speech. He was very polite and gracious in defeat. I am sure this will spur him up for the FO which is best of five sets since Nadal is a marathon runner, five sets matches suit him more. As for Federer is concerned, he has afterall found a way to beat Nadal. His previous losses were because he was overly concentrating on Nadal's BH and I believe that Nadal is more dangerous from his BH corner than FH (ad corner). This time, Federer was brave enough to pull him wide on to his FH (ad) side, and then hit a wide ball to his BH (deuce side) and vice versa. Maybe he has read my article, "The Tactical Universe" at www.tennisplayer.net under Strategy.

 

[Morrissey]

no sarcasm here...

it's interesting that there are nadal-haters who take any chance he/she can get to take a swipe at nadal

It´s good you see that now. I´ve been saying this for years already. The haters will look to take a swipe at Nadal even in press conferences that didn´t show any sour behavior, just took his loss like a man and congratulated Fed. But still, some haters will always stay the same. I say this about fans of both Nadal and Fed. But to be honest I´d rather have a guy who obviously gets on very well with Rafa in Fed to end his streak than some jerk like Hewitt.

 

[Fedace]

All he is saying is that Rafa only lost cause he was not 100%,/Tired which is the god honest truth. and he is just saying, next time i play federer, i am going to bite fed's head off and beat him 6-0 6-0 6-0, which is again true, so what is wrong with that ?

 

[Phil]

Here is a guy who was unbeatable on clay. This time around Federer beat him in three sets. Quite frankly I did not find any sarcasm and/or arrogance in Nadal's speech. He was very polite and gracious in defeat. I am sure this will spur him up for the FO which is best of five sets since Nadal is a marathon runner, five sets matches suit him more. As for Federer is concerned, he has afterall found a way to beat Nadal. His previous losses were because he was overly concentrating on Nadal's BH and I believe that Nadal is more dangerous from his BH corner than FH (ad corner). This time, Federer was brave enough to pull him wide on to his FH (ad) side, and then hit a wide ball to his BH (deuce side) and vice versa. Maybe he has read my article, "The Tactical Universe" at www.tennisplayer.net under Strategy.

Mahboob - I understand that Federer DID read your article, "The Tactical Universe" as preparation for the finals against Nadal. In fact, in one of his post-match interviews, he actually mentions you by name and attributes his win primarily to the tactics outlined in your article and also, the 1/2 gallon of Tropicana Homestyle Orange Juice (with extra pulp) that he consumed just prior to the match.

Unfortunately, the interview is in German, so I can't provide a good translation for you just now.

 

[psamp14]

nadal is not a bad loser...in many articles its cited of him saying that he's happy for his streak of 81 wins and its success, but if he had to lose to anyone, it'd be to the #1 player in the world, one of the best of all time

nadal and federer have great respect for each other....its pathetic that a lot of their fans are the opposite

 

[gugarafa]

true true,Nadal was very gracious in his loss and though evrybody hates excuses i think his was valid ,he just wasnt at his best.Unlike a 'losing fed' he did not dwell too much on that aspect and instead admitted that he'd rather have fed ending his streak,where's the sarcasm?

 

[roysid]

Wishing good luck to your opponent is not a bad thing.

Nadal and Federer now respect each other a lot. Federer sulked a bit last year after losing Monte Carlo and French. I guess, that was natural reaction.

But now, things are fine. Otherwise Fed would have never played in Nadal's hometown.

 

[HyperHorse]

Im sure Rafa meant to be gracious in defeat...
But to me, him saying "Good luck for the French Open" as far as im concerned is saying
"See you in 2 weeks punk!!"
But that's just my perspective...

 

[DueSouth]

Wow Nadal's English has improved a lot since last I heard him[maybe last summer]. He used to just want to get questions done with very quickly but his latest one at Germany he was elaborating and going on. Good on him.

Yeh i know!When watching in hamburg i could see he was thinking really hard about what he was going to say....before all he would ever say is something along the lines of 'he is playing at a very good level'

 

[C_Urala]

Kill me, I don't understand what wrong is in being sarcastic...
... especially when the sarcasm is directed on a speaker himself.

 

[poplar]

Unbelievable....I find it saddening the words of a person can be twisted and such a way. There was nothing sarcastic about Nadal's speech. He was an extremely gracious loser.

I think he even something to the effect of 'if there's a man that was going to stop the streak of wins, it had to be Federer'.

Both Federer and Nadal have tremendous respect for each other. Wishing some other player good luck at a tournament indeed hid a conflict of interest (just like every time some other player wishes someone good luck).... but there was absolutely no sarcasm.

i guess you haven't seen how federer's words have been twisted around.

i find it very interesting that the support for fed or nadal has been so exlusive and their hardcore fans hate the guts out of each othe, (with some exceptions of coz) while fed and nadal are so friendly and respectual to each other.

 

[poplar]

It´s good you see that now. I´ve been saying this for years already. The haters will look to take a swipe at Nadal even in press conferences that didn´t show any sour behavior, just took his loss like a man and congratulated Fed. But still, some haters will always stay the same. I say this about fans of both Nadal and Fed. But to be honest I´d rather have a guy who obviously gets on very well with Rafa in Fed to end his streak than some jerk like Hewitt.

i always feel so confused about you. you seem to be a reasonable guy who happens to love nadal very much. so many times you got provoked by fed trolls then you become a nadal troll yourself the thing is, when federer got attacked, you cheer your fellow trolls on. so you lose a little crediblity sometimes. but when you are cool, you are really cool ;

 

[poplar]

I dont think there's any sarcasm in nadal's words. if he weren't the favorite of french, it would sound prefectly fine to you.

anyway, the maturity shown by nadal at age of 20 is just amazing.

 

[latinking]

I don't think it was sarcasim. I remeber when Fed won, at the net he said to Nadal good match, Good Luck at The French Open. So I think it was Nadal just replying. Watch the end of the match. At the net thats what Fed says.

 

[Ten_is]

Accept to receive

You see whatever you choose to see which reflects your internal self.


I challenge you to question how you would handle yourself if you were in Nadal's shoes? I'm sure it would lean more to reflect the perception of your thread.

 

[R.Federer]

i thought nadal was very gracious in defeat he said if i hd to lsoe against anybody hes the man no? so i dont get this arrogant crap they are both humble imo and just stating the facts, people might perceive this as arrogant but it really isnt.

 

[Rabbit]

Federer does respect Nadal, I believe that, but he HATES being in this position and he DOES, I think, throw in some digs at him in between his graciousness.

Like how he puts Nadal's streak into context, saying that perhaps his streaks on multiple surfaces is harder to achieve, but Nadal's clay court streak is impressive. Stuff like that.

Part of it is I think Federer is pretty candid. Most of what he says, if not all, even when arrogant, is true. I think his truthfulness is jarring to Americans used to canned responses from inarticulate athletes. You know "leave it on the field" and "give it 110 percent." Blegh. Andy Roddick is a good interview though.

For any singles player at the top of their sport, it's got to be tough to be very generous toward the guys you compete against. Federer, for all his demure demeanor, has got to have one of the biggest competitive streaks and likely egos to match. You just can't be successful like he and Nads are without being arrogant in some respect, it goes with the job.

Sampras exuded it. For all his appearing to be humble, Agassi was the same way. Read Vince "I ain't afraid of ya" Spadea's book. His interactions with Agassi are very telling. Agassi has quite the ego.

Mahboob - I understand that Federer DID read your article, "The Tactical Universe" as preparation for the finals against Nadal. In fact, in one of his post-match interviews, he actually mentions you by name and attributes his win primarily to the tactics outlined in your article and also, the 1/2 gallon of Tropicana Homestyle Orange Juice (with extra pulp) that he consumed just prior to the match.

Unfortunately, the interview is in German, so I can't provide a good translation for you just now.

 

[avmoghe]

i guess you haven't seen how federer's words have been twisted around.

I've seen Federer's words twisted around as well. Those incidents are equally contemptible.

Personally, I am no fan of Nadal's, but I have to applaud his sportsmanship and defend him in this instance.

 

[jukka1970]

Why is it that when either Federer or Nadal loses a match, and speaks highly of the other person, that so many on this board think it's hidden sarcasm or unsportsmanlike?

I just don't get it, and this has been going on for at least a year. Personally, I think they both have tremendous respect for each other, and that their words are genuine. People really need to stop trying to read into everything so much in looking for this so called hidden truth. And honestly it's become just plain ridiculous.

Be happy that they not only respect each other, but that they both have a great sportsmanship, and just leave the whole thing alone.

Jukka

Look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glF5dwAqAWI

when Nadal gives his speech at 02:25 he says: First of all I want to congratulate Roger. Very good tournament and.... good luck in the French

this comes across really sarcastictal for me.

also in the press conference: http://dtb-tennis.rent-a-cluster.net/rm/r-nadal_20-05-07.rm

Nadal doesn't seem to be a good loser. He say's more that one time indirectly that he lost because "he wasn't 100%". Also at the end he seems to be justifying himself and even had to shut himself up. He wanted to continue saying sth. and then suddenly stopped.. :roll:

I don't know but this seems to me that the loss really gets to him..

 

[BlackSheep]

Sorry I can't see it.

 

[Punisha]

he doesnt speak english that well give him a break

 

[Hot Sauce]

I bet that's Rafa is thinking about now, getting revenge at the French. He's gotta be pumped.