Nadal takes underhanded swipe at Federer/Murray

[joekapa]

http://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis...t/news-story/29686c45d1c44bf7bc5e5507310579b0

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Nadal took a veiled swipe at great rival Roger Federer and local favourite Andy Murray while lashing organisers for what he sees as preferential treatment.

Asked if he would be back next year to attempt to win a third Wimbledon crowd, Nadal replied: “I never said I not going to come back. Yeah, I want to come back because I want to play more times in the Centre Court.”

“I like playing more on Centre Court,” he added in the Spanish part of his press conference, per sport360.com. “Someone has to play on Centre, and it’s almost always the same players here. This is the reality. Here, there are many of us who have won a lot in our careers, who have a lot of important history behind us.

“A tournament that wants to be as traditional and as special as Wimbledon has to distribute the number of matches scheduled on Centre Court and that not always the same people play there, and when there are doubts, the others are sent to other courts.”"

Nadal telling it like it is.

 

[Centre Court]

I think judging his form at Wimbledon the past few years, i think it's good they put him on court 1. Obviously watching Nadal is box office and he sells tickets no matter where he plays, but Murray is the world number 1 and defending champ and Federer well....no explanations needed there, so it's obvious they should play on centre, however, i wouldn't mind seeing Federer or Murray on court 1 if Wimbledon decided that option

 

[Newcomer]

He should stop making excuses. There cannot be ANY excuse for that 2/16 BP conversion.

 

[joekapa]

I think judging his form at Wimbledon the past few years, i think it's good they put him on court 1. Obviously watching Nadal is box office and he sells tickets no matter where he plays, but Murray is the world number 1 and defending champ and Federer well....no explanations needed there, so it's obvious they should play on centre, however, i wouldn't mind seeing Federer or Murray on court 1 if Wimbledon decided that option

No. There are explanations needed buddy. Nadal, along with Djokovic, have been the most successful players, in terms of slams and titles, these past 8 years or so.

Hell, even Sampras was relegated to court 1, in the twilight of his career.

 

[Centre Court]

No. There are explanations needed buddy. Nadal, along with Djokovic, have been the most successful players, in terms of slams and titles, these past 8 years or so.

Hell, even Sampras was relegated to court 1, in the twilight of his career.

I understand that and like I said I'd have no problems with fed on court 1, but when it comes to who is the most popular at Wimbledon and who has the more pleasing game to watch then federer is a no brainer, did nadal play all his French open matches on the main court?

 

[VaporDude95]

Nadal telling it like it is.

????

Nadal's results since 2011 have been 2R 1R 4R 2R DNP 4R. He's lucky to be put on centre court at all. Even Kubot made a QF ffs

 

[Purplemonster]

I think judging his form at Wimbledon the past few years, i think it's good they put him on court 1. Obviously watching Nadal is box office and he sells tickets no matter where he plays, but Murray is the world number 1 and defending champ and Federer well....no explanations needed there, so it's obvious they should play on centre, however, i wouldn't mind seeing Federer or Murray on court 1 if Wimbledon decided that option

Pretty sure more people would prefer to watch Nadal play as opposed to Murray, you said it yourself he is box office. Murray is great to watch if you suffer from insomnia or you enjoy being robbed of your hard earned cash.

 

[Centre Court]

Pretty sure more people would prefer to watch Nadal play as opposed to Murray, you said it yourself he is box office. Murray is great to watch if you suffer from insomnia or you enjoy being robbed of your hard earned cash.

I agree but when he's defending champ and technically representing Britain at a British major then the crowd support that, even if is he is shockingly bad to watch

 

[K-H]

People are taking this in the wrong context. He's not taking a dig at federer or Murray to begin with. It's the Wimbledon organisers he's taking a dig at. And he's not making an excuse for the loss, he's saying this so that there is change next year if he goes to Wimbledon again.

 

[LETitBE]

People are taking this in the wrong context. He's not taking a dig at federer or Murray to begin with. It's the Wimbledon organisers he's taking a dig at. And he's not making an excuse for the loss, he's saying this so that there is change next year if he goes to Wimbledon again.

Muller will be playing on centre court in his quarter final,he EARNED the privilige due to beating the whiner

 

[Krish872007]

Very misleading thread title.

 

[K-H]

Muller will be playing on centre court in his quarter final,he EARNED the privilige due to beating the whiner

What has that got to do with my post.

 

[LETitBE]

What has that got to do with my post.

why would they change things for next year because of whingeing loser?

 

[Feather]

The OP is a butthurt Roger Federer hater who is using this to voice his hatred. The title is misleadingt. Rafa hasn't said anything about Roger/Andy. So he is just fishing in troubled waters

 

[Terenigma]

We literally have a 3 page thread about this already:

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...rential-treatment.593977/page-3#post-11391147

Also the title of that thread is more appropriate than it is this one, this one is just plain wrong.

 

[MasturB]

Muller will be playing on centre court in his quarter final,he EARNED the privilige due to beating the whiner

There's no guarantee Muller will be playing on Centr.

Nole-Berd
Fed-Milos
Mugg-Querrey
Muller-Cilic

I'd be shocked if Mugg-Sam isn't on Court 1. But I think it's likely on Centre because Well Mugg.

Fed-Milos might go to court 1. But Fed will likely get Centre. Nole-Berd is a toss up. 7 years ago it gets Centre now not so sure.

 

[ScentOfDefeat]

To me it is more bizarre that Monfils-Edmund (which is more or less equivalent to Santoro-Bates in the 90's) was on centre court and Halep-Azarenka or Kerber-Muguruza were relegated to secondary courts, but these organisational problems are bound to happen in a tournament where 1) they need to ensure British players get as much coverage as possible, 2) it always rains (at least one day per year) and 3) the middle Sunday has to remain sacrosanct. And it is not surprising to me that, out of the "big three" left in contention, Djokovic would be the one to suffer the consequences more so than the other two darlings.

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

http://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis...t/news-story/29686c45d1c44bf7bc5e5507310579b0

"
Nadal took a veiled swipe at great rival Roger Federer and local favourite Andy Murray while lashing organisers for what he sees as preferential treatment.

Asked if he would be back next year to attempt to win a third Wimbledon crowd, Nadal replied: “I never said I not going to come back. Yeah, I want to come back because I want to play more times in the Centre Court.”

“I like playing more on Centre Court,” he added in the Spanish part of his press conference, per sport360.com. “Someone has to play on Centre, and it’s almost always the same players here. This is the reality. Here, there are many of us who have won a lot in our careers, who have a lot of important history behind us.

“A tournament that wants to be as traditional and as special as Wimbledon has to distribute the number of matches scheduled on Centre Court and that not always the same people play there, and when there are doubts, the others are sent to other courts.”"

Nadal telling it like it is.

He has a lot of cred from before and has the guts to say it. Bet Novak doesnt dear to say anything, which is very much understandable. Im glad Rafa said something about it.

 

[Krish872007]

He has a lot of cred from before and has the guts to say it. Bet Novak doesnt dear to say anything, which is very much understandable. Im glad Rafa said something about it.

He's not taking a swipe at anyone other than the organisers, just to be clear. It is the organisers who are at fault and they are being called out as they should be - though Rafa was directly asked about it so he answered. I suspect Novak would say something similar if asked.

 

[Purplemonster]

I agree but when he's defending champ and technically representing Britain at a British major then the crowd support that, even if is he is shockingly bad to watch

Fair point.

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

He's not taking a swipe at anyone other than the organisers, just to be clear. It is the organisers who are at fault and they are being called out as they should be - though Rafa was directly asked about it so he answered. I suspect Novak would say something similar if asked.

I hope Novak will. Its a disgrace how Novak was treated yesterday. Not only should Novak say something, if Fed and Andy had some class, they should do it too.

 

[Krish872007]

I hope Novak will. Its a disgrace how Novak was treated yesterday. Not only should Novak say something, if Fed and Andy had some class, they should do it too.

Definitely agree with the first part, but I'm not surprised as they've been treating Djokovic like this for a while.
But disagree with the second. They should both be left out of it - nothing to do with class, you answer the questions you are asked. This is not the first time we've seen bad scheduling and it won't be the last, and the organisers will be under immense pressure to adjust regardless.

 

[deBroglie]

http://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis...t/news-story/29686c45d1c44bf7bc5e5507310579b0

"
Nadal took a veiled swipe at great rival Roger Federer and local favourite Andy Murray while lashing organisers for what he sees as preferential treatment.

Asked if he would be back next year to attempt to win a third Wimbledon crowd, Nadal replied: “I never said I not going to come back. Yeah, I want to come back because I want to play more times in the Centre Court.”

“I like playing more on Centre Court,” he added in the Spanish part of his press conference, per sport360.com. “Someone has to play on Centre, and it’s almost always the same players here. This is the reality. Here, there are many of us who have won a lot in our careers, who have a lot of important history behind us.

“A tournament that wants to be as traditional and as special as Wimbledon has to distribute the number of matches scheduled on Centre Court and that not always the same people play there, and when there are doubts, the others are sent to other courts.”"

Nadal telling it like it is.

I agree, they should have put some of the matches on Court 1. Federer - Dolgopolov and Federer - Lajovic were good candidates for Court 1 matches. Murray - Brown could have been on Court 1 too. However, the organizers know that every match Federer plays could be his last - they wouldn't risk putting him on Court 1.

I hope Novak will. Its a disgrace how Novak was treated yesterday. Not only should Novak say something, if Fed and Andy had some class, they should do it too.

I imagine Federer and Murray will get asked about this sometime; they had both finished their matches well before it became aware that Nadal was going to play a marathon match, and that Novak would not get to start.

 

[The Green Mile]

I hope Novak will. Its a disgrace how Novak was treated yesterday. Not only should Novak say something, if Fed and Andy had some class, they should do it too.

Andy Murray, who has played all of his Wimbledon matches this year and last on Centre Court, said on Monday: “I don't think anyone's suggesting [the scheduling] is fair. I'm not suggesting that it is. We need to find a way of allowing for an equal split of the men's and women's matches across the tournament rather than just looking at one day."

He was asked about it, don't know if Fed was. Not sure if it's talking about Novak specifically, but probably the whole Wimbledon schedule. Honestly, you can't expect players to bring stuff up without the others bringing it up first.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tennis/2017/07/11/tennis-debate-must-wimbledon-change-sexist-scheduling/

 

[Jaitock1991]

Talk about taking things out of context...

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Definitely agree with the first part, but I'm not surprised as they've been treating Djokovic like this for a while.
But disagree with the second. They should both be left out of it - nothing to do with class, you answer the questions you are asked. This is not the first time we've seen bad scheduling and it won't be the last, and the organisers will be under immense pressure to adjust regardless.

So if Fed and Andy get the question?
I think it would be great class if they spoke up about it. It would be truly refreshing.

 

[Krish872007]

Andy Murray, who has played all of his Wimbledon matches this year and last on Centre Court, said on Monday: “I don't think anyone's suggesting [the scheduling] is fair. I'm not suggesting that it is. We need to find a way of allowing for an equal split of the men's and women's matches across the tournament rather than just looking at one day."

He was asked about it, don't know if Fed was. Not sure if it's talking about Novak, but probably the whole Wimbledon schedule.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tennis/2017/07/11/tennis-debate-must-wimbledon-change-sexist-scheduling/

That's good. Fed wasn't asked about it - he just said that he was very happy to be on Centre, it could easily have been one of the other top players (Rafa, Novak or one of the women) , and he was looking forward to playing exciting tennis to live up to expectations.

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

I agree, they should have put some of the matches on Court 1. Federer - Dolgopolov and Federer - Lajovic were good candidates for Court 1 matches. Murray - Brown could have been on Court 1 too. However, the organizers know that every match Federer plays could be his last - they wouldn't risk putting him on Court 1.


t.

Wimbledon CC will end up having geriatrics only on CC. Players play longer than ever. Its not good for the sport or for Wimbledon itself.

 

[Pagoo]

Funny, because I heard countless times from a Nadal fangirl that court one was better for Nadal. So I guess Murray and Federer lack class because Nadal lost on court 1? Too funny.

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Funny, because I heard countless times from a Nadal fangirl that court one was better for Nadal. So I guess Murray and Federer lack class because Nadal lost on court 1? Too funny.

It was better for him, for his game. But Rafa himself wanted to play CC.

 

[TheAssassin]

If there is a rule that everyone should play outside the Center Court at least once a year, it should be followed. I can understand last year since Nadal was absent and Djokovic lost early but now that all the Big 4 made it to the second week it doesn't seem fair to me that Rafa and Novak have to play on Court 1 twice while Fed and Andy don't play there at all. I don't particularly care about which of the two courts the big names play on but the scheduling can be done better. All the yesterday's events mean one of the top seeds will potentially play 3 BO5 matches in 4 days. Luckily it could be evened out to an extent thanks to his relatively soft draw.

 

[Gazelle]

Pretty sure more people would prefer to watch Nadal play as opposed to Murray, you said it yourself he is box office. Murray is great to watch if you suffer from insomnia or you enjoy being robbed of your hard earned cash.

NVM

 

[Sentinel]

He should stop making excuses. There cannot be ANY excuse for that 2/16 BP conversion.

If they had played on CC, Muller would have also been more inspired and may have finished the job in three, instead of taking the scenic route.

 

[Sentinel]

Funny, because I heard countless times from a Nadal fangirl that court one was better for Nadal. So I guess Murray and Federer lack class because Nadal lost on court 1? Too funny.

Yup, she was saying that C1 is better because it has some wind, and the CC is damp, C1 is dry so the ball will bounce higher and benefit Bull.



Some people are fun.

 

[TennisATP]

Nadal is not complaining about Federer and Murray as it's not their fault or decision. He is complaining about Wimbledon for not being fair or giving equal treatments to certain top players. Putting Federer/Murray every time on centre court and Nadal twice or more on court 1 is unfair. The French Open for example doesn't always put Nadal on centre court and often Federer/Murray on court 1 just because of their past results. They are fair by averaging things up for everyone, unlike Wimbledon.

 

[cknobman]

LOL this is just petty on Nadals part.

A little bit of thought and logic will tell you why Federer/Murray got the center court nod over Nadal/Djokovic.

Murray - hmm, real head scratcher right????? No hes British (well Scottish) along with the first #1 and grand slam champion that island has had in decades.

Federer - 7 time titlist at Wimbledon, loved so much by the people there he might as well be British. When he played Murray in the 2012 final even the crowd wouldnt cheer against him.

And then you have:

Nadal - 2 time champ, but has been beaten by players ranked #100 or worse the last 4 years.

Djokovic - no matter how hard he tries most of the world just wont love this guy. He is the proverbial "villain" of champions.

 

[clayqueen]

Wimbledon even considered putting Nadal or Djokovic on Ct 2 to make way for the women on Ct 1, but CC is reserved for Murray and Fed without question:

“We looked very hard for today at whether Novak or Rafa could go to No. 2 Court, and in the end, we just couldn’t justify it,” Lewis said. “We know the demand for those players when they are playing. We know the demand for tickets, for hospitality, for debentures. There are so many metrics, and it’s not just slightly that way. It’s very strong, and that’s not a criticism of women’s tennis. It’s a reflection of the state we’re in with the golden era of men’s tennis.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/...-game-suffers-an-indignity.html?smid=tw-share

Even if Murray is the defending champion and World #1 and Fed is a 7 times champion, Fed is currently World #5, there is no reason why they shouldn't play at least one match on Ct 1. McEnroe, Sampras, Venus, Serena and other defending champions played on the old Ct 2 which was much smaller than the new one. Why was Konta on Ct 1 and the WTA #1 player was on Ct 2?

 

[Maestroesque]

Very misleading thread title.

What do you expect from this OP?

 

[robbo1970]

I haven't read every post, but has it got to the stage yet where the court has been blamed for Nadal's loss?

 

[deBroglie]

What do you expect from this OP?

I don't think it's his fault - that was the original title of the article.

 

[Dolgopolov85]

No. There are explanations needed buddy. Nadal, along with Djokovic, have been the most successful players, in terms of slams and titles, these past 8 years or so.

Hell, even Sampras was relegated to court 1, in the twilight of his career.

At Wimbledon, no, they are not as successful as Fed. You can argue about Murray, of course, but he's the home favourite so it's a no brainer. Besides, Nadal's Wimbledon record in the last few years has been pretty bad. But aside from that, consider that Kerber was complaining about being put on court no.2. You can laugh Kerber who, but it's an issue because the only way Nadal could have also been accommodated on Centre Court was by moving either the Venus or the Konta match to Court 1. With the women already complaining, having only one women's singles match on Centre Court would have been a PR disaster for sure.

 

[ChaelAZ]

Again he is correct, but it's really moot.

 

[rommil]

Not news at all, Nadal has a habit of making underhanded swipes, mostly before he serves.

 

[xFullCourtTenniSx]

????

Nadal's results since 2011 have been 2R 1R 4R 2R DNP 4R. He's lucky to be put on centre court at all. Even Kubot made a QF ffs

If you replace DNP with 1R, which it's sort of similar to (both being immediate denial of ability to claim the title), then Nadal's performances have been a repeating sequence. Perhaps next year he'll fall in the 2nd round then the year after he retires?

 

[Deleted member 733170]

Imagine what Nadal would say if he wasn't so humble.

 

[Maestroesque]

I don't think it's his fault - that was the original title of the article.

My bad.

 

[Tennisanity]

LOL, so Nadalterds believe court assignment had something to do with Nadal's loss? Would any of this be mentioned had he won the match???????

 

[clayqueen]

For a world renowned tournament that they expect the whole world to take an interest in, it shouldn't matter about home favourites. Some players have been and gone without ever being seen or even mentioned in passing that's why Federer is on the lips of many casual tennis fans, because the British don't get to see and get to know the other players that they might like.

 

[clayqueen]

Imagine what Nadal would say if he wasn't so humble.

Imagine.

 

[Dolgopolov85]

For a world renowned tournament that they expect the whole world to take an interest in, it shouldn't matter about home favourites. Some players have been and gone without ever being seen or even mentioned in passing that's why Federer is on the lips of many casual tennis fans, because the British don't get to see and get to know the other players that they might like.

But we are not talking about some players who have come and gone. We are talking about Andy Murray who has already been knighted. Is this really so hard to understand or do you adamantly want to be pressed about this? If the latter, then I will simply not pursue this point further.