No one talks about these folks

BTURNER

Legend
the American Tennis Association, the nation's oldest African-American sports organization"

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1365/is_n2_v25/ai_15752092/

"One of the first black players to draw national attention to the ATA was Ora Washington, who dominated the women's division with eight titles in the 1930s. Her unique style was marked by blazing speed, along with a little half-swing with the racquet held high up on the grip. Washington's acclaim was accompanied by the Roosevelt-era construction of hundreds of public courts for future urban recreational use.

Of the many unrealized tennis talents, uncoached African-Americans from the pre-World War II era, the best may have been Jimmy McDaniel. With an aggressive serve-and-volley game honed on the cement courts of Los Angeles, McDaniels's reputation and ATA dominance earned him a landmark 1940 crossover match at the Cosmopolitan Club in Harlem with 1938 Grand Slam winner Don Budge. Although McDaniels was overmatched that day 6-1, 6-2, the exhibition nonetheless foresaw a not-too-distant future when the color barrier in tennis would drop.

That barrier had initially been challenged in 1929 when two ATA standouts, Reginald Weir and Gerald Norman Jr., were denied entry to a United States Lawn Tennis Association (now the USTA) tournament. Eighteen more years of segregated competitive tennis ensured, followed by the historic appearance of ATA junior champ Oscar Johnson at USLTA's national indoor juniors in 1947. Johnson, too was stopped at the door, but when he threatened to take legal action, the USLTA capitulated."

1.What do you history buffs know about these unheralded champions before and comtemporary to Gibson male or female.

2. Any undiscovered Jackie Robinsons in those events?

3. Did Europe have a segregated tour or did they allow blacks in RG, the German, Otalian etc?

2. How good were these players and would they have had some grand slam/ pro tourney caliber men or women who might well have taken some sets/matches/tourneys from some of the players wiht some matches under their belts, we now call greats?

another interesting read on black league players
http://www.beautyman.com/ITF/history/blackhistory.html


Well now, there evidently were a pair of sisters important to tennis history and their names were not Venus or Serena

http://www.answers.com/topic/margaret-and-matilda-roumania-peters
 
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BTURNER

Legend
Not a single post on the hidden tour, or any of these names? No one has any information?
 
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BTURNER

Legend
Bump for hope that others will be intrigued to learn or offer tidbits of insight. Sometimes in forums, yesterday's bomb thread is tomorrows success.
 
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sureshs

Bionic Poster
Was he the guy whom Budge defeated and then said that if he had been allowed to compete fairly, he would be top 10 in the world? Remember reading that somewhere.
 

heftylefty

Hall of Fame
Ronaldo, I played in an ATA event 21years ago. The Pacific Coast Championships. They still run this tournament, but not a big as it use to be.
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
Ronaldo, I played in an ATA event 21years ago. The Pacific Coast Championships. They still run this tournament, but not a big as it use to be.

Played the Ohio Tournament that funneled into Mid-Tac in 1990 at OSU. 60 courts of singles at one time, 1st round. Played 5 rounds of dubs to get to the finals. In two days 8 matches.
 

PDJ

G.O.A.T.
Very interesting thread. I've never heard of these people but I will google to try & find out more. Fascinating.
 
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