Oh noooooo, Wikipaedia is down! Long live Mustard

LameTennisPlayer

Professional
^^^
haha me too! its annoying, tried to use it a couple of times without actually reading it was down for 24hrs, thought it was a some glitch lol.
 

downs_chris

Professional
if you're really desperate, you can right-click and view source of the wiki page (first doing a search using google)...then you can kind of read it, through all the html tags...good luck!
 

GoSurfBoy

Semi-Pro
It's in protest, today, of the SOPA Bill. Like so much these days, especially in America, your freedom and rights are being subverted, like the illegal NDAA bill der Fuhrer just signed - and is already being sued for.

Craigslist.org has a direct link to help sign/call protest. If SOPA passes, search engines. Wiki, etc., can be pulled for 'internet piracy'.
 

jmverdugo

Hall of Fame
yes it could, TT could be black flagged because of the pictures posted here, the videos and the for sale section, so you better start calling your congressman.
 
^^ certainly a potential problem, might not be good that guys like charliefederer put copyrighted material in their posts all the time.
 
if you're really desperate, you can right-click and view source of the wiki page (first doing a search using google)...then you can kind of read it, through all the html tags...good luck!

Haha, good tip, but that html is hard to read. I found a much better way actually. Just view source as you said and then save the file to your desktop as filename.html. Then open it a browser. Voila :)
 
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sada232

Guest
I noticed you can also get passed it by turning javascript off or getting a browser extension like noScript that prevents javascript.
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
I didn't realise quite how much I actually use it! I've tried needed it 4 or 5 times today to check something.

It's for a good cause though so hopefully it's worth it.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Many sites are down today for SOPA. Some are hosting whitened pages, or blackening out their logos.

Reddit is down. Daily WTF is whited out.
 

diredesire

Adjunct Moderator
OK OK... lots of people posting here, but no one really seems to know what SOPA is all about.

The purpose of these annoying blackouts on HUGELY popular sites is to raise awareness about the bill(s) of SOPA and PIPA.

It essentially boils down to this: If the bill passes, the landscape of the internet could be WILDLY different than it is today. Sites such as this forum could be shut down without due process at a whim of a copyright holder. Obviously, the people who are going to have the leverage to do so are the big companies/IP holders, NOT some individual users who are upset that their copyrights are being infringed upon.

From a sensationalist standpoint, it means that the internet will be controlled by a few big powers. Without getting political, take the time to research SOPA and do your own part in protesting it if it floats your boat.
 

diredesire

Adjunct Moderator
DD, Just wondering but how affected will TT be if this bill passed?
Could be 0%, could be 100%. That's the point. I sometimes see people posting excerpts of articles here on pro players or whatever.

IF a large news conglomerate decides that newspapers aren't making enough money, and closes up shop, and moves to 100% online articles, they could feasibly decide to "charge a membership" (see NYT). If they decide that they want to milk the user for every last penny, they're going to be very aggressive with people copy/pasting partial (or full!) articles elsewhere online.

Assuming they have enough leverage, they could abuse these bills and get TTW (maybe even TW!) shut down as a site without having to go through a lengthy cease and decist and/or lawsuit. So... this would be the 100% case.

If the bill passes and people are chill (extremely unlikely), then there'd be likely no effect.

The problem with the bill is that it is not tackling the supposed problem (internet piracy). It is putting into place ridiculous policies that could completely undermine freedom of speech and other basic rights that we are taking for granted on a day to day basis. The point that wikipedia, reddit, slickdeals, the oatmeal, etc etc etc are trying to make is that we shouldn't take these freedoms/rights for granted. Do something about it (if it floats your boat).
 

anhuynh16

Hall of Fame
Could be 0%, could be 100%. That's the point. I sometimes see people posting excerpts of articles here on pro players or whatever.

IF a large news conglomerate decides that newspapers aren't making enough money, and closes up shop, and moves to 100% online articles, they could feasibly decide to "charge a membership" (see NYT). If they decide that they want to milk the user for every last penny, they're going to be very aggressive with people copy/pasting partial (or full!) articles elsewhere online.

Assuming they have enough leverage, they could abuse these bills and get TTW (maybe even TW!) shut down as a site without having to go through a lengthy cease and decist and/or lawsuit. So... this would be the 100% case.

If the bill passes and people are chill (extremely unlikely), then there'd be likely no effect.

The problem with the bill is that it is not tackling the supposed problem (internet piracy). It is putting into place ridiculous policies that could completely undermine freedom of speech and other basic rights that we are taking for granted on a day to day basis. The point that wikipedia, reddit, slickdeals, the oatmeal, etc etc etc are trying to make is that we shouldn't take these freedoms/rights for granted. Do something about it (if it floats your boat).

Ok thanks you make an excellent points there. I just signed the petetion.
 

DUO

New User
I wonder why google's logo is blackout, aren't they also a pro SOPA/PIPA supporter?. I think FB, twitter, YT should also do some kind of blackout, can you imagine how much more awareness of this bills if those websites did a blackout.
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
DD, Just wondering but how affected will TT be if this bill passed?
For example (sort of extreme), if TW didn't notice someone posting pics in Shoes/Apparel of Nike's Winter 2012 gear and remove it fast enough, Nike could have the entire site taken down. Or someone post videos in Tennis Hint/Tips that is copyrighted - same thing - site gets shut down. Under DCMA (digital millenium copyright act) a 'takedown notice' would be filed to take the offending materials off. On Ars Technica they correctly called SOPA 'thermonuclear war to kill an insect' - pretty accurate. And I have been a software developer - so Piracy is something that bothers me. But needs to be addressed in a sensible way. The MPAA and RIAA are stuck in the Past and can't realize they need to change their business model.
 

diredesire

Adjunct Moderator
I wonder why google's logo is blackout, aren't they also a pro SOPA/PIPA supporter?. I think FB, twitter, YT should also do some kind of blackout, can you imagine how much more awareness of this bills if those websites did a blackout.

No, Google (as they should be) is definitely opposed to the bill(s). If FB/Twitter/YT went down, the point would be driven home, for sure. However, as it is, the publicity for ANYTHING SOPA/PIPA related is very low, as some of the big pushes for these bills are large media corporations ;)

Most people just don't know what it's all about! I'm pretty sure if FB went down for even an hour or so twitter would go down from all the traffic about it ;)
 

skip1969

G.O.A.T.
i put the google link on my facebook page, if only because i'm fed to death with stupid house and senate bills.
 

DUO

New User
No, Google (as they should be) is definitely opposed to the bill(s). If FB/Twitter/YT went down, the point would be driven home, for sure. However, as it is, the publicity for ANYTHING SOPA/PIPA related is very low, as some of the big pushes for these bills are large media corporations ;)

Most people just don't know what it's all about! I'm pretty sure if FB went down for even an hour or so twitter would go down from all the traffic about it ;)

Hmm I guess my info is incorrect about google. I do agree that the majority of people on twitter and fb probably don't even know what's going on,perhaps someone working at fb can "spill some coffee" on their servers hehe
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
For example (sort of extreme), if TW didn't notice someone posting pics in Shoes/Apparel of Nike's Winter 2012 gear and remove it fast enough, Nike could have the entire site taken down. Or someone post videos in Tennis Hint/Tips that is copyrighted - same thing - site gets shut down. Under DCMA (digital millenium copyright act) a 'takedown notice' would be filed to take the offending materials off. On Ars Technica they correctly called SOPA 'thermonuclear war to kill an insect' - pretty accurate. And I have been a software developer - so Piracy is something that bothers me. But needs to be addressed in a sensible way. The MPAA and RIAA are stuck in the Past and can't realize they need to change their business model.
It's not just video and pics. If a poster even posts a LINK, ... the website is supposed to monitor each and every link posted -- that's what I've got, although I have just glossed it. The wikipedia page had an explanation.
 
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