Old guy poly hybrid

johnmccabe

Hall of Fame
I bought a racquet with touch vs and some poly in the cross. My elbow complains after casual hitting with this stick. But feels fine after playing matches with fresh full bed poly on the same model racquet. Is old gut poly hybrid not necessarily arm friendly after the poly gone dead?
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
Yes, when poly is dead in a hybrid, you will see the same erratic control and lack of comfort. Dead poly might take a few more hours to manifest itself in a hybrid than in fullbed. Polys that I can feel are dead in fullbed within 8-12 hours take only about 2-3 hours more before I feel the same issues of bad control/comfort in a gut/poly hybrid. Cut out dead poly or even better be prudent and cut out poly just before it goes dead.
 
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stapletonj

Hall of Fame
I guess you could......

I'm not an expert, go over to the stringing forum and ask Wes or Irvin, they fight with each other all the time, but one thing they agree on, they both know far more than me!

Also, if you do that and are very careful, you can weave the crosses on the opposite side of the mains and it might help extend your gut mains string life (and liveliness)
because the crosses aren't against the notched, worn part of the gut mains.
 

ey039524

Professional
I guess you could......

I'm not an expert, go over to the stringing forum and ask Wes or Irvin, they fight with each other all the time, but one thing they agree on, they both know far more than me!

Also, if you do that and are very careful, you can weave the crosses on the opposite side of the mains and it might help extend your gut mains string life (and liveliness)
because the crosses aren't against the notched, worn part of the gut mains.
I don't have 2 point machine, but you could cut the top cross and start stringing, then keep cutting as you go, to keep some cross tension.

However, if you mount, then cut all the crosses, isn't that the same tension as having strung all the mains?
 

lefty10spro

Semi-Pro
As an old guy, I thought the title of your thread sounded promising because I've moved away from full bed poly and miss how it plays, but not how it made my arm feel. Was hoping you'd provide a solution.
I'm in the same boat. String your gut mains 5 lbs tighter than your normal poly tension. Slap poly in the crosses at you normal all poly tension and play until the gut breaks. Folks cutting out the poly and replacing is silly IMO since the gut maintains tension until breaking and the poly crosses simply allow the gut to slide and snap back. Almost immediately healed an 18 month case of TE.
 

stapletonj

Hall of Fame
I don't have 2 point machine, but you could cut the top cross and start stringing, then keep cutting as you go, to keep some cross tension.

However, if you mount, then cut all the crosses, isn't that the same tension as having strung all the mains?
I don't really understand your post.

I'm guessing you are saying you DO have a 2 point mounting machine and want to cut out the crosses one at a time as you weave and tension in the new cross strings? Maybe.

The uneven flexing from cutting out the crosses one at a time would be reduced that way somewhat. ( Mounting on a 2 point then cutting the crosses one at a time)
Don't forget though, that when you cut one cross, the next cross is going to lose tension a lot and the one past that a little at least.

I dunno..... How upset will you be if you somehow crack the frame?

Also, see the thread where the guy is cracking mounting adapters on his Klippermate and they told him he was cranking them down too tight!

Starting to sound a little Kobiashi Maru to me! (for all you Star Trek geeks out there)
 

ey039524

Professional
I don't really understand your post.

I'm guessing you are saying you DO have a 2 point mounting machine and want to cut out the crosses one at a time as you weave and tension in the new cross strings? Maybe.

The uneven flexing from cutting out the crosses one at a time would be reduced that way somewhat. ( Mounting on a 2 point then cutting the crosses one at a time)
Don't forget though, that when you cut one cross, the next cross is going to lose tension a lot and the one past that a little at least.

I dunno..... How upset will you be if you somehow crack the frame?

Also, see the thread where the guy is cracking mounting adapters on his Klippermate and they told him he was cranking them down too tight!

Starting to sound a little Kobiashi Maru to me! (for all you Star Trek geeks out there)
No, I have 6 point machine. I've redone crosses before. Just cut out a couple of crosses before stringing the new ones.
 

happyandbob

Legend
Ok to do it on two point mounting system, or no?
it should be ok as long as you have the two points very tight against the frame. You're leaving the mains tensioned, so you need to make sure the frame doesn't deform in that direction. The mains will have lost some tension over time, so tension the crosses 3-4 lbs less than when it was freshly strung. Also, make sure you reverse the weave vs the original string job.
 

PBODY99

Legend
I use a power frame so my Poly goes in the mains.
As I read the thread I see the evil that auto-correct does.
If the string job hurts, cut it out.
 
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