one handed backhand vs two

[TOP CAT]

i think one handed backhand looks nicer, more style, sweet, but is not as efective as two handed backhand, two handed you get more power and control.

the one handed backhand its going to disapear whith time, its gonna be strange to see one handed in about 10 years, and as simple as this example:

in the top 20 there is only one guy with one handed backhand, it is roger federer, and it is because he is out of this world, and in the top ten there is only 5

i lov one hand, it is super sweet just wathing it

 

[Jonny S&V]

i think one handed backhand looks nicer, more style, sweet, but is not as efective as two handed backhand, two handed you get more power and control.

the one handed backhand its going to disapear whith time, its gonna be strange to see one handed in about 10 years, and as simple as this example:

in the top 20 there is only one guy with one handed backhand, it is roger federer, and it is because he is out of this world, and in the top ten there is only 5

i lov one hand, it is super sweet just wathing it

Umm, this should probably be in the "Rants & Raves" section.

As for the one-hander being a dying breed, I don't think you quite know what you are talking about... So Gonzalez, Blake, Robredo, and Wawrinka don't have one-handers anymore?

As for the whole two-hander giving more power, physics says otherwise. Here's an entire thread dedicated to the physics of both backhands, and the conclusion was that there is far more potential for pace in a one-hander then a two-hander due to the added range of motion:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=243924

 

[sh@de]

i think one handed backhand looks nicer, more style, sweet, but is not as efective as two handed backhand, two handed you get more power and control.

the one handed backhand its going to disapear whith time, its gonna be strange to see one handed in about 10 years, and as simple as this example:

in the top 20 there is only one guy with one handed backhand, it is roger federer, and it is because he is out of this world, and in the top ten there is only 5

i lov one hand, it is super sweet just wathing it

Ok first, this stuff has been done to death already. Second, what are you trying to say in your post? If there's only 1 person in top 20 with a 1hbh, then how can there be 5 with 1hbh in top ten...?

 

[nhat8121]

how does 2h bh stronger than 1h bh? b/c they use two arms? how do you come to this conclusion?

 

[NickH87]

My natural swing is 1 hand, but I was hitting against a wall trying to work on my 2 hand motion the other day, I will have to try it on a real court with a hitting partner.

 

[harr]

Second, what are you trying to say in your post? If there's only 1 person in top 20 with a 1hbh, then how can there be 5 with 1hbh in top ten...?

I assume he's just written "10" and "20" the wrong way round. Then that bit of what he said is correct.

 

[carlos djackal]

one handed backhand will never die.......sooner or later a player with a one handed backhand will rise again and dominate the tour........

 

[sh@de]

I assume he's just written "10" and "20" the wrong way round. Then that bit of what he said is correct.

Ah I see. Thanks for pointing that out. And yeah, 1HBH will never die out.

 

[Andres]

one handed backhand will never die.......sooner or later a player with a one handed backhand will rise again and dominate the tour........

When was the last time a two hander dominated the tour, besides Nadal now? Borg and Connors in the 70s?

Besides some sparkles of brilliance from Agassi, Courier, Wilander, the true dominators of each decade (Lendl, Sampras, Federer) were all one handers.

 

[fps]

2HB is a stronger defensive/ counterpunching shot against heavy fire.

 

[P_Agony]

one handed backhand will never die.......sooner or later a player with a one handed backhand will rise again and dominate the tour........

I still have hopes for Gasquet to make it. It's not too late. He's now 22 right? The same age Federer evolved to a top player.

 

[sh@de]

Lol. I don't think Gasquet will make it. Go Dimitrov (sp?) !

 

[Golden Retriever]

The 1HBH works fine at the amateur level, thats why people here love the 1HBH.

At the pro level, try to return a pro serve with a 2HBH and a 1HBH then you'll know why most pros pick the 2HBH.

What about the 20th century? Well last time I checked we are now in the 21st century. What about Federer? Well, if you have Federer's serve and forehand, you don't need a backhand and his backhand is becoming more and more of a liability.

Since we are all amateurs, just pick the one that looks the best. Be caution, some 1handers actually look horendous, but they still think they look good.

 

[NamRanger]

The 1HBH works fine at the amateur level, thats why people here love the 1HBH.

At the pro level, try to return a pro serve with a 2HBH and a 1HBH then you'll know why most pros pick the 2HBH.

What about the 20th century? Well last time I checked we are now in the 21st century. What about Federer? Well, if you have Federer's serve and forehand, you don't need a backhand and his backhand is becoming more and more of a liability.

Since we are all amateurs, just pick the one that looks the best. Be caution, some 1handers actually look horendous, but they still think they look good.

Totally disagree with your analysis. Blake crushes returns with his 1HBH, as does quite a few other players.


The problem is that surfaces are slower and bounce higher than they did. Alot of courts are much slower than they once were. The 1HBH is best on low bouncing balls, while the 2HBH has a higher strike zone range. The conditions today suit the 2HBH, thus why you see more 2HBHs. If conditions were optimal for the 1HBH, you'd see alot more 1HBHs.

 

[diggler]

I HB is more power, 2HB is more control.

 

[sh@de]

Neither is better than the other. Both have advantages and disadvantages.

 

[tournaking]

Totally disagree with your analysis. Blake crushes returns with his 1HBH, as does quite a few other players.

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Blake's backhand looked horrendous in the slither of match i saw of him vs serra yesterday. Still though, as you say he can crush them of his backhand side on occasion.

 

[TOP CAT]

im sorry, there is a mistake in my post, I menat 1 player top ten, and 5 in the top 20,

 

[sh@de]

haha dun worry top cat we got that

 

[eugenius]

I also play a 1hbh,and also feel that the 2hbh currently has the edge,though i hate to say it.I think it's a combination of the higher bounce off slower courts,but also the newer string technologies,which produce more spin and are harsher on the 1hbh.Also with baseline play dominating S&V,modern players need speed and good defensive skills to win.A slice only gets you "that far" when you're in trouble and that's where the 2hbh guys can get the edge ito turning defense into attack.

 

[bobblaine]

watch in hd...
puts any 1h to shame...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C9HIzDONJk&feature=related

 

[Richie Rich]

I HB is more power, 2HB is more control.

not necessarily the case. all depends on the player and their style

 

[Golden Retriever]

Totally disagree with your analysis. Blake crushes returns with his 1HBH, as does quite a few other players.


The problem is that surfaces are slower and bounce higher than they did. Alot of courts are much slower than they once were. The 1HBH is best on low bouncing balls, while the 2HBH has a higher strike zone range. The conditions today suit the 2HBH, thus why you see more 2HBHs. If conditions were optimal for the 1HBH, you'd see alot more 1HBHs.

How could you TOTALLY disagree with me? I have never been TOTALLY wrong in my life. Being TOTALLY wrong is like getting a zero in a test or losing a tennis match with all the games being zero games. No, that has never happened to me before.

 

[BreakPoint]

At the pro level, try to return a pro serve with a 2HBH and a 1HBH then you'll know why most pros pick the 2HBH.

Hmmm...Roddick has just about the biggest serve in pro tennis but Federer has no problems whatsoever returning his serves with a 1HBH. Other 1HBH players like Blake, Wawrinka and Kohlschreiber also return Roddick's big serves plenty well with their 1HBH's.

 

[BreakPoint]

How could you TOTALLY disagree with me? I have never been TOTALLY wrong in my life. Being TOTALLY wrong is like getting a zero in a test or losing a tennis match with all the games being zero games. No, that has never happened to me before.

From your posts and threads, I've always assumed that's what always happens every time you play against a player with a 1HBH.

 

[Golden Retriever]

Hmmm...Roddick has just about the biggest serve in pro tennis but Federer has no problems whatsoever returning his serves with a 1HBH. Other 1HBH players like Blake, Wawrinka and Kohlschreiber also return Roddick's big serves plenty well with their 1HBH's.

Last time I checked Roddick is still ranked higher than all of them, except Federer. Maybe they can't handle Roddick's backhand.

 

[Golden Retriever]

From your posts and threads, I've always assumed that's what always happens every time you play against a player with a 1HBH.

I can reassure you even Federer can't win me like that.

 

[eugenius]

Fed and most 1hbh players have to slice or chip their return off the 1st serve.
They CAN all drive it as well,but will generally struggle MORE to do this than a 2hbh player

 

[BreakPoint]

Last time I checked Roddick is still ranked higher than all of them, except Federer. Maybe they can't handle Roddick's backhand.

What does rankings have to do with it? They have no problems returning Roddick's big serves with their 1HBH's. Maybe it's their forehands that give them trouble returning Roddick's serves? And when Roddick hits aces out of their reach, does it really matter how many hands they have on their backhand? At least with a 1HBH, they have a better chance of getting their racquet on the ball since they have greater reach.

 

[BreakPoint]

I can reassure you even Federer can't win me like that.

And I can assure you that if you played Federer that you will LOSE 6-0, 6-0. In fact, I would be surprised if you even won a single point in the match.

 

[Golden Retriever]

I am sure if I could take a point from Federer it would be from his backhand. You know why am I so sure? Because I would throw everything to his backhand until he slaps.

 

[BreakPoint]

I am sure if I could take a point from Federer it would be from his backhand. You know why am I so sure? Because I would throw everything to his backhand until he slaps.

And every time you hit a ball to his backhand, he'd hit a screaming winner past you. This is a guy that has ATP pros pounding his backhand all day long. Do you seriously think he'd be bothered at all by anything YOU can throw at his backhand? Laughable. Come on, get real. :-?

 

[sh@de]

I am sure if I could take a point from Federer it would be from his backhand. You know why am I so sure? Because I would throw everything to his backhand until he slaps.

Wow dude, that's one of the silliest posts around. Seriously, you honestly think you'd get a point off an ATP pro who's won 13 slams, is a GOAT candidate and is the current #2? He'd just be hitting service aces and return aces past you all day. I'll bet he could probably 2nd serve ace you a lot of the time too.

 

[Andres]

I am sure if I could take a point from Federer it would be from his backhand. You know why am I so sure? Because I would throw everything to his backhand until he slaps.

Get real. The only point you could take from Federer would be a double fault.

 

[Cesc Fabregas]

What does rankings have to do with it? They have no problems returning Roddick's big serves with their 1HBH's. Maybe it's their forehands that give them trouble returning Roddick's serves? And when Roddick hits aces out of their reach, does it really matter how many hands they have on their backhand? At least with a 1HBH, they have a better chance of getting their racquet on the ball since they have greater reach.

All the best returners have 2 handers Murray, Djokovic, Nalbandian, Davydenko and Ferrer.

 

[fortunecookiesjc]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS-KQjVcqQo&feature=related

Its silly to think you couldnt get atleast one point, but to think you would only get it because he's a one hander is absurd.

 

[BreakPoint]

All the best returners have 2 handers Murray, Djokovic, Nalbandian, Davydenko and Ferrer.

Hmmm.....how did Laver, Emerson, Nastase, Rosewall, Vilas, McEnroe, Becker, Lendl, Edberg, Sampras, Rafter, Kuerten, Federer, etc. win all of those Grand Slams without being able to return serves?

FYI, those guys on your list have only one measly Grand Slam amongst the five of them.

 

[BreakPoint]

At the pro level, try to return a pro serve with a 2HBH and a 1HBH then you'll know why most pros pick the 2HBH.

Here's Federer when he was only 18 years old when he had a very "weak" backhand. Watch the whole video clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veEFVfApIfw

 

[sh@de]

All the best returners have 2 handers Murray, Djokovic, Nalbandian, Davydenko and Ferrer.

I thought Nadal was damn good at returning too?

 

[Cesc Fabregas]

Hmmm.....how did Laver, Emerson, Nastase, Rosewall, Vilas, McEnroe, Becker, Lendl, Edberg, Sampras, Rafter, Kuerten, Federer, etc. win all of those Grand Slams without being able to return serves?

FYI, those guys on your list have only one measly Grand Slam amongst the five of them.

In todays game the 2 hander is better for the return.

 

[sh@de]

In todays game the 2 hander is better for the return.

Probably. Does that mean you can't have someone who uses 1 hand but can return really well? No.

 

[Clay lover]

they have their advantages and disadvantages

 

[sh@de]

^ Yeah that's exactly what I said. We could argue forever about which one is better, and all we'd do is go round in circles.

 

[BreakPoint]

In todays game the 2 hander is better for the return.

Why? Sampras still serves better than anyone on the pro tour today, so the serves haven't really gotten any better.

 

[Cesc Fabregas]

Why? Sampras still serves better than anyone on the pro tour today, so the serves haven't really gotten any better.

2 hander has better reach, can deal with the higher ball better and can get more power most 1 handers have to chip or slice off the backhand return whilst a guy like Nalbandian can really nail serves.

 

[asafi2]

2 hander has better reach, can deal with the higher ball better and can get more power most 1 handers have to chip or slice off the backhand return whilst a guy like Nalbandian can really nail serves.

Huh? One-hander has much better reach....

 

[maximo]

Huh? One-hander has much better reach....

Yes, but when someone applies a lot of topspin, 1 handers find it difficult to adjust.

 

[asafi2]

Yes, but when someone applies a lot of topspin, 1 handers find it difficult to adjust.

Doesn't change the fact that a one-hander has better reach. I'm talking solely about reach, not how stable each backhand is with topspin.

 

[All-rounder]

Who knows maybe 1 handed backhand may be extinct like serve and volley

 

[sh@de]

2 hander has better reach, can deal with the higher ball better and can get more power most 1 handers have to chip or slice off the backhand return whilst a guy like Nalbandian can really nail serves.

Last time I checked... that was like, uh, yesterday? One of the one hander's advantages is that it has BETTER REACH. Where do you get your info from man?