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MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Yet again, a bunch of useless hooplah, Nadal and Djokovic will slay like always.
tennis_error
Professional
Lol, Nadal being Nadal...
1. Whining about something, usually balls or court...
2. Saying "It is what it is... We play with what we have..."
3. Whining more...
I mean, have you heard of any other player whining so much about conditions?
1. Whining about something, usually balls or court...
2. Saying "It is what it is... We play with what we have..."
3. Whining more...
I mean, have you heard of any other player whining so much about conditions?
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Lol, Nadal being Nadal...
1. Whining about something, usually balls or court...
2. Saying "It is what it is... We play with what we have..."
3. Whining more...
I mean, have you heard of any other player whining so much about conditions?
…… and then still winning? Nope
Nadal_Django
Legend
If he isn't drawn to play against Paul, De Minaur, Norrie, Fritz, FAA, Tiafoe and Coric.…… and then still winning? Nope
tennis_error
Professional
I don't blame Nadal... He's player that need special conditions to be top player, and he's whining to get ones...…… and then still winning? Nope
socallefty
G.O.A.T.
“The Spaniard claimed the Dunlop balls were different to those used in 2022, despite reassurances from organisers that they are unchanged year on year.”
Enough said. Sad to see a one-time gladiator turn into a whiny old man.
Enough said. Sad to see a one-time gladiator turn into a whiny old man.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
what do you mean "turn into"?.......its the same old nadal
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Lol, Nadal being Nadal...
1. Whining about something, usually balls or court...
2. Saying "It is what it is... We play with what we have..."
3. Whining more...
I mean, have you heard of any other player whining so much about conditions?
Since joining TTW, I have constantly seen posters whining about conditions (mostly about the speed of courts).
tennis_error
Professional
You quoted post where I say player whining about conditions... Not poster... Nadal is goat in that department...Since joining TTW, I have constantly seen posters whining about conditions (mostly about the speed of courts).
Subway Tennis
Legend
Fair play to him for being honest about the situation. Journalists are always interested in player assessments of the conditions in the lead up to a major. Most of the top players will weigh-in in one form or another.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Your post reminded me that one (by now retired) player whined about the speed of the AO courts already in 2008 (if not earlier).
https://www.foxsports.com.au/tennis...n/news-story/9198ab58ae067a73f8220b646cd688f0
Shangri La
Hall of Fame
QQ more.
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
Don't think there should be much of a problem. If he can contend well on grass conditions and low bouncing conditions then AO won't present any significant changes that he's not dealt with before. Looking forward to a fun tournament! AO is by far the most fun tournament to watch on TV. All the day matches and evening matches happening throughout the late evening and through the night here in Canada.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
The posters clearly followed the example of one (by now retired) player who constantly whined about the speed of the courts everywhere.You quoted post where I say player whining about conditions... Not poster... Nadal is goat in that department...
Silverbullet96
Hall of Fame
Could it be that he's just playing not as well so feels like something is wrong with the balls ?
He has also said such things before, like when Stan blew him off the court in Rome 2015 with MASSIVE groundstrokes him and Uncle Toni got upset that he couldn't chase them down and blamed the speed of the courts and that Tennis was becoming too fast... lol. Just because of one loss, not to mind the 99% of players that can't do that to Nadal.
With Nadal sometimes it's like if Superman faced him at Tennis and hit 500+ mph avg groundstrokes, Nadal will blame the courts/balls for not being able to chase them down and that "Tennis is becoming too fast and needs slowing down".
He has also said such things before, like when Stan blew him off the court in Rome 2015 with MASSIVE groundstrokes him and Uncle Toni got upset that he couldn't chase them down and blamed the speed of the courts and that Tennis was becoming too fast... lol. Just because of one loss, not to mind the 99% of players that can't do that to Nadal.
With Nadal sometimes it's like if Superman faced him at Tennis and hit 500+ mph avg groundstrokes, Nadal will blame the courts/balls for not being able to chase them down and that "Tennis is becoming too fast and needs slowing down".
Subway Tennis
Legend
He’s just recognising that the ball is not the best for his playing style.
Rafa has always pretty straight down the line when discussing how external factors affect him and other players.
He did the same thing at RG 2020. He was honest about the conditions changing in a way that didn’t suit him, but he didn’t dwell on negative discussion. He just adjusted gradually through the two weeks of the tournament.
ACT
New User
The balls are 100% horrible this year, don't know what they did with it, but it's totally different
From memory first batch of AO Dunlop balls weren't great, fluffed up really fast and was very slow. The second iteration which is what they've been using up until now was the closest to the Wilson AO ball, and was very good, my favourite by far
Up until the end of last year, they phased out this good batch, putting the rest on sale, the new box I received is total dog crap
Out of the can they are more dense, stay a bit stiffer for longer, but as soon as it fluffs up a bit, it produces a dead bounce, just dropping it from chest height on hard court it will bounce barely higher than your knees
From memory first batch of AO Dunlop balls weren't great, fluffed up really fast and was very slow. The second iteration which is what they've been using up until now was the closest to the Wilson AO ball, and was very good, my favourite by far
Up until the end of last year, they phased out this good batch, putting the rest on sale, the new box I received is total dog crap
Out of the can they are more dense, stay a bit stiffer for longer, but as soon as it fluffs up a bit, it produces a dead bounce, just dropping it from chest height on hard court it will bounce barely higher than your knees
Silverbullet96
Hall of Fame
Yea but it's not always external. I feel like sometimes he's not ready to accept that he's just not good enough.
Like if in 2015 he's complaining that Tennis is too fast when grinders like himself are dominating the tour, it's hard for me to give much weight to that opinion.
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Deleted member 791948
Guest
Its not about the court surface, its the ball, and how long it spins for before it wears out and becomes unspinnable.Don't think there should be much of a problem. If he can contend well on grass conditions and low bouncing conditions then AO won't present any significant changes that he's not dealt with before. Looking forward to a fun tournament! AO is by far the most fun tournament to watch on TV. All the day matches and evening matches happening throughout the late evening and through the night here in Canada.
Nadal says these balls wear out quicker, so you can't get spin on your shots for as many games.
junior74
Talk Tennis Guru
optic yellow
Legend
Nadal has the most spin feel on his FH of the Big 3 I would not be surprised he notices something small but real.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Oh, I am sure he notices it, as would everyone else. They've all hit enough balls to know what the differences are. It just impacts his game more, because he wants more spin.
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
That might be a problem for him against some of the seeds in his draw.
He might need to adjust to the balls and hit big and flat even if it means higher error count.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
0% good balls doesn't bode well for the quality of the tournament
0% good balls mean 0% the good tennis?
optic yellow
Legend
To me he can cope if he wants the spin for power shots but it's valid if he wants it for touch shots. He can hit flat very well though so I don't really feel bad for him.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Absolutely on both points...he can hit flat well and you shouldn't feel bad for him. It's his job to adjust to playing conditions, as it is for everyone else.
optic yellow
Legend
And to his credit he said exactly that in his statement.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Then lets play some ball.
optic yellow
Legend
I can't wait for this to start except for Alcaraz not being there because I was really interested to see how he followed up the USO victory.
TheLeadMaster
New User
Hasn't he won enough tournaments?!
Hitman
Bionic Poster
I think we all wanted to see how he was going to follow that USO win up, a loss for the event. I think he will be ready to take the title in Paris in a few months though.
junior74
Talk Tennis Guru
Born_to_slice
Legend
You need more than a new user report on TTW?Yes, if they are 0% good 100% of the time.
But we have no reports saying this, so far.
Silverbullet96
Hall of Fame
I guess Thiem won't be winning it then.
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Deleted member 791948
Guest
junior74
Talk Tennis Guru
I can think of at least two vamos brigadiers who will prove you are wrong with articles, pictures and quotes.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
I have come to the conclusion that somebodies have a tradition of whining about Rafa.Rafa's humble ball whining is a tradition that tells us a slam is near
junior74
Talk Tennis Guru
Rafa's humble ball whining is a tradition that tells us a slam is near
You call that whining? It's full-on celebration!
AO is coming, wohoo!
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