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While a journalist questioned his career and especially his combativeness.
media asks some really dumb questions.Opelka really has an issue with the tennis media apparently.
No. He stuck up for another player. And, by the way, anyone should have a problem with these people. They are vultures.Opelka really has an issue with the tennis media apparently.
Well, there are several instances where Opelka responds to a question by saying "The media is terrible..." then he answers the question. If you ask him directly I think he'd confirm that he has issues with the media, and your own post suggests that it's justified ?No. He stuck up for another player. And, by the way, anyone should have a problem with these people. They are vultures.
No. He stuck up for another player. And, by the way, anyone should have a problem with these people. They are vultures.
Surely fans can be disappointed even if it's not the players fault?Yes we're not allowed to be disappointed. Participation trophies for every player! Thanks just for showing up Carlos, crowd totally got their money's worth that night!
Who said he's faking? Fowler didn't. Said it's disappointing and hopes it doesn't happen again. Obviously the kid wasn't ready for Bo5.Surely fans can be disappointed even if it's not the players fault?
To assume an 18 year old is faking injury and retiring in his first Slam QF just because he's losing seems rather asinine to me.
Who said he's faking? Fowler didn't. Said it's disappointing and hopes it doesn't happen again. Obviously the kid wasn't ready for Bo5.
Opelika taking offense to that is what's asinine.
was being badly outplayed by @felixtennis and looked low on energy but to tap early in major QF? certainly hope it won't be a pattern for 18yo with much talent.
It's asinine to me that Osaka is reduced to a flood of tears when asked an innocuous question like, "did the humidity affect you today?"To assume an 18 year old is faking injury and retiring in his first Slam QF just because he's losing seems rather asinine to me.
Kid will need to work on his Possuming skills.The haters will be lining up for Alcaraz if this becomes a habit. Let's hope he can accept the consequences of that.
Kid will need to work on his Possuming skills.
Needs lessons from Del Potro I think.
If that’s how you define injury then almost no one in tennis is ever injuredThe kid didn't have an injury. He didn't tear a ligament or break a bone. There was no limp or anything when he retired. His leg muscles simply couldn't handle the load anymore because at 18 he wasn't in shape enough to handle that many Bo5 matches yet. He was pushed to his limit and he tapped out. It happens.
You hope he comes back stronger and it doesn't happen again. There's absolutely nothing wrong with what Fowler said.
And I would argue that more than half of MTOs and retirements shouldn't happen. So yes.If that’s how you define injury then almost no one in tennis is ever injured
And I would argue that more than half of MTOs and retirements shouldn't happen. So yes.
What I'm getting at is that he didn't develop an injury in the match. He just wasn't in shape enough. This is a preventable thing that hopefully he'll be ready for in the future.So is a pitcher on the IL for elbow inflammation not considered injured?
There's nothing Federer can work out to prevent back spasms. It's not from a lack of conditioning. But there is something you can do to strengthen your thigh muscles so they can hold up throughout a tournament.
Fowler is terrible. That kid crushed it and looked to be injured or out of gas. You don't beat the players he did and be a fluke. He will be back.While a journalist questioned his career and especially his combativeness.
I’m sure Ferrero is second guessing his decision to plan a Cinci/W-S/USO schedule for his protégé. As it turned out that became 12 matches in 24 days on HC, It shouldn’t have been a surprise he gave out after that shock immersion to the HC grind. In the winter, between AO qualies in Doha, a two week quarantine break, 3 rounds of s warmup 250 and a 1R win he went out a bit meekly to Ymer 2R to start out a 4-match losing streak through Miami.What I'm getting at is that he didn't develop an injury in the match. He just wasn't in shape enough. This is a preventable thing that hopefully he'll be ready for in the future.
Like there's nothing Nadal can excerice at the gym to fix his foot for example. There's nothing Federer can work out to prevent back spasms. It's not from a lack of conditioning. But there is something you can do to strengthen your thigh muscles so they can hold up throughout a tournament.
Does staying in and getting a bagel change the outcome? They not getting match ratings. I appreciate the fans paid a lot of to see a show. But watching a beat down isn't much of a show.Chris Fowler raises a legitimate point. Let's not pretend Alcaraz was anywhere close to the breaking point. It was a sudden surrender. Confirmed by FAA who says Alcaraz was moving just fine.
Before the dunderhead Alcatraz apologists chime in, we will put it in simple terms for them:
If Alcaraz had been up a set, he would have soldiered on for another hour.
Cry me a river Opelka.While a journalist questioned his career and especially his combativeness.
So as a paying fan, when is it okay to just see someone throw in the towel? When Venus Williams, a fan favorite, is slated to play Ash Barty in the first round of a slam, should she just retire before the match even starts? It's gonna be a beat down either way, why should the fans care?Does staying in and getting a bagel change the outcome? They not getting match ratings. I appreciate the fans paid a lot of to see a show. But watching a beat down isn't much of a show.
There are plenty of athletes in other sports who would continue. This is a tennis thing, and a culture thing in the sport. it is like football flailing for fouls. Embarrassing.So as a paying fan, when is it okay to just see someone throw in the towel? When Venus Williams, a fan favorite, is slated to play Ash Barty in the first round of a slam, should she just retire before the match even starts? It's gonna be a beat down either way, why should the fans care?
If players clearly don't give a S about the fans experience, the fans will stop spending money.
I Would also have an issue with such comments, calling an injure "surrender" and that he hopes it doesnt happen again... maybe he would have liked him to literally die on court just for him to be enterteined. players put their body on the line and picking on an 18 year old who has given everything to compete at that level makes him look like... well i dont know if i can say that word hereOpelka really has an issue with the tennis media apparently.
So watching him get smoked for another 30 minutes makes that fan experience worth it? At least he tried. I think it would be way worse to announce moments before or earlier in the day that he would have to withdraw.So as a paying fan, when is it okay to just see someone throw in the towel? When Venus Williams, a fan favorite, is slated to play Ash Barty in the first round of a slam, should she just retire before the match even starts? It's gonna be a beat down either way, why should the fans care?
If players clearly don't give a S about the fans experience, the fans will stop spending money.
You are right. How did that work out for Durant with the Warriors?There are plenty of athletes in other sports who would continue. This is a tennis thing, and a culture thing in the sport. it is like football flailing for fouls. Embarrassing.
Not age 35 yet.Opelka for president
It absolutely does. If I spent the $1000 to get tickets, get my family to NYC, board us all for the night, etc I'd want my kids to at least get to watch the match even if I understand the way things are going.So watching him get smoked for another 30 minutes makes that fan experience worth it? At least he tried. I think it would be way worse to announce moments before or earlier in the day that he would have to withdraw.
I dont watch NBA, but I know in other sports people would not give in so easily after coming this far.You are right. How did that work out for Durant with the Warriors?
I'm in full agreement and any opposite stance would be using the logic that a young player should retire any time the odds are against them. Live to fight another day, take it easy on the body, you can try again at the next slam, etc.Look, maybe it is just the culture and sports I grew up watching and playing, but in hockey, NFL, and Rugby, athletes play through pain, serious injuries, and yes even potentially long term injuries to play and win. Especially in the big moments. I see it in football all the time and basketball where they fake fouls, so maybe it is just different culture, but man, it is a shame to see. The stage does not get any bigger for these guys, and maybe the TEAM aspect has something to do with it in other sports. I dont know, but I didnt like it.