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dozu

Banned
so my golf buddy aint gonna show up in my garage for another 5 hours... out of boredom I checked what a real 3.5 would play like.

video is quite boring, typical hackish stuff... until 1:58

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCRV9sfPxoQ

Here is the dark side of human nature exposed in a harmless (yet) way.

"are you sure?"
"yup"
 
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tennismonkey

Semi-Pro
seemed like these two took an awful lot of time between points, between service faults, between picking up balls. some of the slowest players i've ever seen.
 
Again with this video? It's been done to death.

A lot of older players don't see that well. I've had some of my shots called out that were clearly in by good natured players. Solution: don't hit it that close to the line to begin with.

P.S. I still jokingly ask them if "chalk flew up".
 

dozu

Banned
calling people playing in a 3.5 league match not true 3.5 is just right out oxymoronic at the elementary school level.

come on guys.

sorry, I didn't know this video was posted many times before, as D4l appeared to indicate.
 

J_R_B

Hall of Fame
calling people playing in a 3.5 league match not true 3.5 is just right out oxymoronic at the elementary school level.

come on guys.

sorry, I didn't know this video was posted many times before, as D4l appeared to indicate.

All of these Maverick NTRP videos appeared at the same time (including the 4.0 one of me). They were made in April 2007 of a team from NJ that went to 3.5 nationals in 2006 and then split into a 3.5 team and a 4.0 team in 2007 because a bunch of guys were bumped. I can tell you the exact match and players in these videos, if you want. The guy who made the horrendous call is a ~0.500 long time 3.5 player. The other guy on the far side is playing in his one and only USTA match, which he defaulted after a single set (because of this call and possibly others? who knows...).

The funny thing is that the bad call guy plays in a club league at the same club that I do, and one day about 2 years ago (before I saw this video), he was playing on the court next to me and I saw him make the same exact call that was at least 4 inches in. I sort of cringed like "oh, man, that was bad", but I didn't get the impression he was trying to cheat or anything, but rather that he really just saw it wrong. I kind of chuckled when I saw this video.
 

yellowoctopus

Professional
... until 1:58

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCRV9sfPxoQ

Here is the dark side of human nature exposed in a harmless (yet) way.

"are you sure?"
"yup"

Of course it was out, especially when he was down 30-love. Notice that his feet was on the line when he made contact with the ball that landed 'out', in front of him.

Pretty sure he convinced himself that it was out.

rth0336l.jpg
 

8F93W5

Rookie
That was a pusillanimous cowardly chicken $-,hit call. I've seen this video somewhere before. That guy is a jerk. I say don't give him the benefit of the doubt. He's a jerk. When it's close and you think it's out, but you're not sure, you MUST call it in. This clown didn't do that. No wonder comments have been disabled for the video. I'd so ashamed to be him.
 

danno123

Rookie
That was a pusillanimous cowardly chicken $-,hit call. I've seen this video somewhere before. That guy is a jerk. I say don't give him the benefit of the doubt. He's a jerk. When it's close and you think it's out, but you're not sure, you MUST call it in. This clown didn't do that. No wonder comments have been disabled for the video. I'd so ashamed to be him.

It wasn't even a close call. The ball was clearly in.
 

8F93W5

Rookie
It wasn't even a close call. The ball was clearly in.

Of course you're right, BUT suppose he mistakenly thought it was "probably" out. I still say he had to call it in. I have a real hard time calling baseline at my feet. My teammates tell me I'm always blowing calls (cheating myself). That particular call is one of the most difficult. I say even if it was a good 2 inches out, most people would call it good because the rule says you have to be sure. That's what makes this guy such a jerk.
 

HunterST

Hall of Fame
Again with this video? It's been done to death.

A lot of older players don't see that well. I've had some of my shots called out that were clearly in by good natured players. Solution: don't hit it that close to the line to begin with.

P.S. I still jokingly ask them if "chalk flew up".

They're still cheating. You're supposed to be absolutely 100% sure that it was out if you're going to call it out.

Most of the time when I get a bad call I truly believe the person I'm playing against thinks it was probably out. However, being pretty sure it was out isn't good enough.

I always liked the old saying "if you're 99% sure it was out, it was good."
 

BobFL

Hall of Fame
I remember this one. We had a discussion maybe a year ago. Just terrible call, what else to say.
 

dozu

Banned
I have seen this video before too and it is pretty fascinating how diverse 3.5 level is.

In my league, I see a ton more guys like Austin Marr in this video than what I see above...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iwZNY7hqqs&NR=1

I watched till the score was 5-0... this would be typical when a 4.0 plays against a 3.5 (I think I am self contradicting on the oxymoron thing).

It's not a perfect system

and I bet $5 that Marr would have been bumped to 4.0 by now, if not for a little bit of effort to stay in 3.5 to keep sandbagging.
 
Interisting ,
It seems that there is not a true about how good(or bad) is a 3.5 player
One guy in a old thread said that a 3.5 player is able to serve 100mph and some guys would say that a 3.5 is just a beginner with a large number of flaws to be fixed .
About the video the slowest court recovery ever was about 2. 30 funny video anyway
 

HunterST

Hall of Fame
I watched till the score was 5-0... this would be typical when a 4.0 plays against a 3.5 (I think I am self contradicting on the oxymoron thing).

It's not a perfect system

and I bet $5 that Marr would have been bumped to 4.0 by now, if not for a little bit of effort to stay in 3.5 to keep sandbagging.

Gotta remember there is a ton of variety within NTRP levels and 3.5 is the largest and, thus, most diverse level of them all. They say that a low 3.5 should lose to a high 3.5 0 and 0.
 

gameboy

Hall of Fame
dozu, on my team I would say there are at least 5 or 6 guys who would be very competitive with Marr, if not outright beat him. There are several who look more like Marr's opponent or the guys in the OP's video, but then again, they play mostly #2 and #3 doubles and only play singles if there was nobody else available.

And we are just a middle of the road team in our league.
 

J_R_B

Hall of Fame
Gotta remember there is a ton of variety within NTRP levels and 3.5 is the largest and, thus, most diverse level of them all. They say that a low 3.5 should lose to a high 3.5 0 and 0.

There's also a huge difference between a run of the mill 3.5 league player and a 3.5 tournament champion.
 
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