Pat Cash's racket history
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BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
Didn't he use the Prince Pro (black aluminum) back in the '80's?
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paddyslad
Guest
Mega age racquet
He was pushing the MegaAge racquet for awhile. I have two, not bad.
He was pushing the MegaAge racquet for awhile. I have two, not bad.
galain
Hall of Fame
As far as I recall, he started with a Stellar standard sized woodie in the early part of his career before moving to the Slazenger Vilas V24. From the Slaz I think he went to his Prince Mag Pro 90, although I rumour has it he was seen swinging a PK Golden Ace painted to look like a Prince Woodie at one stage. After the Mag Pro he went to the Yonex widebody, and then came the Mega Age, the Head Prestige and his current Volkl Tour 10's. Somewhere in between the Prince and the Yonex he used a Fisher Superform monoshaft for short time as well, but it wasn't very long at all.
Think what you like about him but the guy certainly had good taste in racquets.
Think what you like about him but the guy certainly had good taste in racquets.
galain, just a couple of additions to your pretty comprehensive wrap-up.
Cash started out with a Slazenger, then moved to a Stellar (centre-court I think it was) then to the Slazenger Vilas V24(sweet frame). Apparently he wanted to use the Head Edgewood (?) but Head had Henri Leconte signed to it so he went to the V24. He used a Prince Woodie made in a 90sq head for a very brief time before going to the Prince Magnesium Pro (wonderful racquet and one of my all time favourites) then stuffed up and went to the Yonex R-50 (piece of rubbish) then to the Yonex widebody (was it RQ-180?). You've got me on the Mega-age but know he used the Fischer (?) that Stich and Masur used, then to the Head Prestige then to Volkl C-10 and now is it the T10mpGenII?
Apart from those Yonex frames, which I think set his game back (along with the quick action serve he trialled), he did have good taste in racquets. Personally, I never liked the guy but I will admit to using 5 or 6 of the same frames as him. Aside from the Yonex, if you liked to serve and volley and wanted to know what frame to buy you only had to look at Cash to see a good choice. Makes me very curious about the Volkls
Cash started out with a Slazenger, then moved to a Stellar (centre-court I think it was) then to the Slazenger Vilas V24(sweet frame). Apparently he wanted to use the Head Edgewood (?) but Head had Henri Leconte signed to it so he went to the V24. He used a Prince Woodie made in a 90sq head for a very brief time before going to the Prince Magnesium Pro (wonderful racquet and one of my all time favourites) then stuffed up and went to the Yonex R-50 (piece of rubbish) then to the Yonex widebody (was it RQ-180?). You've got me on the Mega-age but know he used the Fischer (?) that Stich and Masur used, then to the Head Prestige then to Volkl C-10 and now is it the T10mpGenII?
Apart from those Yonex frames, which I think set his game back (along with the quick action serve he trialled), he did have good taste in racquets. Personally, I never liked the guy but I will admit to using 5 or 6 of the same frames as him. Aside from the Yonex, if you liked to serve and volley and wanted to know what frame to buy you only had to look at Cash to see a good choice. Makes me very curious about the Volkls
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georgerezzor
Guest
Just curious to know more about your r-50 comments. I've been using that frame for a long time and pick them up when I come across them. For me, it may be a case of being so used to it that I've grown to really like it....
Kirko
Hall of Fame
I remember seeing Cash use the yonex r-50 he had dampner in it at the weirdest place next to the knot at the bottom of the hoop and he kept looking at from time to time. I must I demoed that racket and the r-24 that Shriver endorsed and did they vibrate !!!!! Even with a dampner. They were heavy and fu****ed up.
ilvanakis, my comments on the R-50 were said with tongue very much in cheek, although I will admit to an abiding dislike of them. As someone who comes to the net at every single opportunity (whether invited or not) I found them to be incredibly sluggish, not enough feel and all-round bad serve-volley frames. Very powerful and great spin but not manoueverable enough and too slow through the air. Because of Cash, they really took off here in Australia but it seemed within a year everyone had ditched them for those reasons.
I'm almost certain that Cash went to them to put more weight behind his groundstrokes. After winning Wimbledon he seemed to get it into his head that in order to compete he had play more of an all-court game and not the reckless serve-volley style that won him the championship, got him into the semis at the US Open and helped win two Davis Cup titles. Plus, Im sure, Yonex threw a lot of money at him. While all his counterparts -Wilander, Edberg, Lendl, Becker, McEnroe- were sticking with what worked best, Cash fiddle-arsed around with his frames and, I think, lost his way game-wise.
Kirko, I didnt like the R24 either. Seemed like a real come-down after the R22 and the R23. Good for slice, which is whey im sure Shriver went to them, but not a patch on the earlier Yonex frames in my opinion.
I'm almost certain that Cash went to them to put more weight behind his groundstrokes. After winning Wimbledon he seemed to get it into his head that in order to compete he had play more of an all-court game and not the reckless serve-volley style that won him the championship, got him into the semis at the US Open and helped win two Davis Cup titles. Plus, Im sure, Yonex threw a lot of money at him. While all his counterparts -Wilander, Edberg, Lendl, Becker, McEnroe- were sticking with what worked best, Cash fiddle-arsed around with his frames and, I think, lost his way game-wise.
Kirko, I didnt like the R24 either. Seemed like a real come-down after the R22 and the R23. Good for slice, which is whey im sure Shriver went to them, but not a patch on the earlier Yonex frames in my opinion.
galain
Hall of Fame
Thanks for putting me straight Andrew - didn't know Cash used a "modern" Fischer as well. Maybe Wally put him onto it?
Cash fiddle-arsed around with pretty much everything. Have you read his book? I think it speaks of a little lack of confidence in himself - his game or his body or maybe both.
Cash fiddle-arsed around with pretty much everything. Have you read his book? I think it speaks of a little lack of confidence in himself - his game or his body or maybe both.
Galain, I think under all the bs Cash probably does have some insecurities but there's an unfortunately egotistical streak that runs through that at least a couple of members of that family so you wouldnt have to look far to find the cause.
Didn't bother to read his book, just never cared for him, his attitude or the way he presented himself. Even today you get the feeling he thinks he can just open his mouth and say whatever he wants and people will forgive him because he 'used to be a good player'. Actually, as much as I liked Courier at this year's Aus Open I had the strong feeling he was edging very close to Cash territory (especially when he called Joanna Griggs a 'bimbo' and kept on ****ging off JA).
All I can say is if anyone thinks Hewitt's a tool well, he's not in Cash's league and, thank god for Pat Rafter LOL.
Didn't bother to read his book, just never cared for him, his attitude or the way he presented himself. Even today you get the feeling he thinks he can just open his mouth and say whatever he wants and people will forgive him because he 'used to be a good player'. Actually, as much as I liked Courier at this year's Aus Open I had the strong feeling he was edging very close to Cash territory (especially when he called Joanna Griggs a 'bimbo' and kept on ****ging off JA).
All I can say is if anyone thinks Hewitt's a tool well, he's not in Cash's league and, thank god for Pat Rafter LOL.
B-Line
Rookie
Wow.. how do you know all this? You're true fan of his although you say you don't care for him.galain, just a couple of additions to your pretty comprehensive wrap-up.
Cash started out with a Slazenger, then moved to a Stellar (centre-court I think it was) then to the Slazenger Vilas V24(sweet frame). Apparently he wanted to use the Head Edgewood (?) but Head had Henri Leconte signed to it so he went to the V24. He used a Prince Woodie made in a 90sq head for a very brief time before going to the Prince Magnesium Pro (wonderful racquet and one of my all time favourites) then stuffed up and went to the Yonex R-50 (piece of rubbish) then to the Yonex widebody (was it RQ-180?). You've got me on the Mega-age but know he used the Fischer (?) that Stich and Masur used, then to the Head Prestige then to Volkl C-10 and now is it the T10mpGenII?
Apart from those Yonex frames, which I think set his game back (along with the quick action serve he trialled), he did have good taste in racquets. Personally, I never liked the guy but I will admit to using 5 or 6 of the same frames as him. Aside from the Yonex, if you liked to serve and volley and wanted to know what frame to buy you only had to look at Cash to see a good choice. Makes me very curious about the Volkls
FiddlerDog
Hall of Fame
Which racket is he using in this clip?
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
I can’t get clip to load for some reason but if it was the 1984 US Open the it was the Slazenger V-24
thelimfactor
Rookie
The Yonex R50 were....hmmm....interesting racquets- I played with it for a little time in about 1989/1990? and found them a bit stiff and hard2 control the ball. Then when cashy changed to the beautifully playing powerful and controlled RQ180 I too changed. Any1 know the specs of the RQ180? Happy hitting!
dekko1
Semi-Pro
Nobody can say that his misfortunes after he won Wimbledon were due to changing rackets. Yonex R-50 is a great racket, from what I can remember he went to the semis in the Ausie Open and lost to Wilander who played with Rossignol F-200, talk about a racket difficult to play with and how good was Wilander with that racket. Another difficult racket to play with and that brought many Slam wins was the Lendl Kneissl/Adidas.
I think that injuries held Cash’s career back. Great guy, I got to be his training partner just after he retired from the pro tour and was still playing veteran and exhibition tournaments. He was obsessed with getting the most from his technique without depleting his body. Had 2 coaches filming and analyzing his technique.
I think that injuries held Cash’s career back. Great guy, I got to be his training partner just after he retired from the pro tour and was still playing veteran and exhibition tournaments. He was obsessed with getting the most from his technique without depleting his body. Had 2 coaches filming and analyzing his technique.
jmacdaununder2
Legend
Cash vs. Wilander was 1988 final; 8-6 in the fifth - I was actually at that one.
I’d like to know too, can’t seem to find it online atm - picked one up the other week and waiting for it to be delivered, hopefully next week.
dekko1
Semi-Pro
Cash vs. Wilander was 1988 final; 8-6 in the fifth - I was actually at that one.
Final, damn! I remember being a great match!!
