Please somebody explain me what are this weird knots

Tron

New User
Hi, I just strung this PC600 in the shop I usually do it, the thing is that they changed the stringer (the person not the machine) and he not only put the knots where they shouldn't be (I think the one that is not in place as head says to string it is the cross starting knot) but also made some really strange knots with 2 tips... I never saw something like this, what the f**k is that?? I am not a stringer, I never strung not even 1 racquet so probably I am being silly but I never saw this thing and if you string 2 pieces how is it possiblo to have 6 tips total in the 4 knots??
I am afraid that the frame is really bad strung, I feel like cutting the strings I have the felling this may damage the frame in the first stroke!!
Help!!!!!

Here go some pics for you to see, thanks!!!!!:
The green circles in the first picture are the knots with 1 tip and the red circles are the knots with 2 tips

 
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dancraig

Hall of Fame
Maybe, for some reason, he had to string one or more crosses after he had "finished" the job. Then he tied off the extra string in the same grommets as the first knots. This would account for the "one knot on top of another" thing. I've never seen this, so someone else might have a better explanation.
You should be able to follow the string from the knots and see if this theory holds water.
 

Tron

New User
I tried to follow the strings, I know how they should go in a normal situation but since I am not a stringer it gets really difficult for me to understand what he did :confused:

How is that about "to string one or more crosses after he had "finished" the job" ???
 

dancraig

Hall of Fame
He may have measured the string for the crosses too short. Instead of pulling it all out and starting over with new string, he may have just tied off and finished the rest of the crosses with another piece of string.

Maybe someone else will have a better explanation.
 

dancraig

Hall of Fame
Or he may have just realized, after he "finished", that he had missed the last cross. Tied off over the knot, pulled the last cross and tied off again over the other knot. If we could see a photo of the edge of the frame, it probably would be clearer.
 

Tron

New User
I'll take the pics right now, just give me some minutes, the problem is that because of the prestige bumper, it's difficult to see..
 

thomas_m

New User
I wouldn't worry about the knots, stringers in shops with more than one person working racquets sometimes use 'personal' knots so that they can tell which racquets they strung. Those look kind of silly though...

I thought the mains of that racquet were supposed to be tied off on 9T so you may have a little more string outside the racquet than normal. Cross tie offs look like they are in the right spot.

If you really think he tied off with another piece of string(not likely), go back and get a refund and a free string job done the right way.
 

dancraig

Hall of Fame
I tried to follow the strings, I know how they should go in a normal situation but since I am not a stringer it gets really difficult for me to understand what he did :confused:

How is that about "to string one or more crosses after he had "finished" the job" ???

He may have thought he finished and someone said, "Hey man, you missed the last cross on this racquet".
 

Tron

New User
Here go the pics, for me it's very difficult to follow the first picture which is the side of the 2 knots.

Anyway I think dancraig is right, if there are 6 tips there are 3 pieces so most probably they fall short or skiped one cross and they "fixed" it later.
I'll go tomorrow to get it re-strung and I just decided to buy my own stringer machine, I was in doubt to buy it because they are heavy and the shipping cost is big but that's it, I am sick of bad string jobs, it's almost impossible to get a good and consisten string job here in Argentina.
It seems they think your are dumb and cannot tell the difference between a good string job and a bad one, f**k them :evil:




 

Steve Huff

G.O.A.T.
It doesn't look like 2 tie's on 1 anchor. It looks like a mistied double half-hitch. It won't hurt as long as it holds the string.
 

Tron

New User
but there is no other way of having 6 tips than with 3 pieces right? so this jobs is really insane isn't it?
 

damasta55

Rookie
I don't think the frame is damaged, it probably is playable, but the stringer definitely should'nt have done that... i'd ask for a replacement stringjob free of charge, if they don't agree, don't return to the shop again.
 

Tron

New User
They re did the job for free without pronouncing a word, that whas some invetion the stringer did because he fell shor with the cross as dancraig said. Thanks everybody
 

diredesire

Adjunct Moderator
They re did the job for free without pronouncing a word, that whas some invetion the stringer did because he fell shor with the cross as dancraig said. Thanks everybody

Yeah, looks like a botched job, two single half hitches to "rectify" a string job. I'm glad they took it back with no question. There wouldn't have been any "damage" per se if you kept it, but it is pretty "hacky" and the bottom two crosses would likely be much looser (tie offs). Good catch, though... I see amateurs do this at times.
 
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