Power Racquets w Low Risk of Elbow Pain?

bouncer

New User
I am 3.5 and 42 years old and play for about 3 times a week for about 2 hours on average. I have not tried very many racquets and have the mostly hit with the Head Radical OS and Wilson Clash Pro 100.

Recently got an opportunity to play a set with the Pure Drive Tour (2021) and I was astonished with how much more power I was able to get.

So I want to move on to PD tour but I am also better concern with high stiffness of the racket. So I thought I should ask here for What other rackets I should demo if I want the power of PD tour while minimizing any risks of tennis elbow.

Can you guys please recommend three alternatives of PD tour that offer plenty of power but are somewhat more arm friendly than a PD tour?
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Probably demo these
1. Volkl V8 pro , V1 Classic EVO, V Cell 9
2. Diadem Nova
3. Donnay Formula Pro and Allwood
4. Pro Kennex ki 10
5. Pacific X Force Pro 1
6. Wilson Shift - Clash
7. Head Boom MP
8. Tecnifibre Iga 298
9. Prince Ripstick
10. Yonex E Zone 100
11. Angell K7 Cyan
12. Bolt 100 maybe
I’m not suggesting that all of these will be better for your arm but some definitely will be. King of arm safety in my opinion is Pro Kennex. I would start there and then go to the others.
 

bouncer

New User
Probably demo these
1. Volkl V8 pro , V1 Classic EVO, V Cell 9
2. Diadem Nova
3. Donnay Formula Pro and Allwood
4. Pro Kennex ki 10
5. Pacific X Force Pro 1
6. Wilson Shift - Clash
7. Head Boom MP
8. Tecnifibre Iga 298
9. Prince Ripstick
10. Yonex E Zone 100
11. Angell K7 Cyan
12. Bolt 100 maybe
I’m not suggesting that all of these will be better for your arm but some definitely will be. King of arm safety in my opinion is Pro Kennex. I would start there and then go to the others.
Which Pro Kennex racket is more power focused?
 

Steve Huff

G.O.A.T.
The ki10 has more power than the 5 series. I've used both, and they were both easy on the arm. The ki15 has even more power, but it was pretty tough on my elbow the season I used it. However, it was the 1st generation, so they've probably improved it in that respect by now. As the number gets higher, the power gets higher too (on Pro Kennex rackets).
 

Parabolaholic

New User
I posted this a couple of days ago on a different thread. Hopefully, it is helpful to you. I had tennis elbow last year and now have a wrist TFCC injury. I had been playing with a Babolat Pure Strike 98:

1st Hit with Clash 98 (version 1)

After about two weeks off of tennis, my new Clash 98 arrived at the end of the week. It came in at almost 2gm under spec, which suited me just fine as I am used to a 305gm racquet. I trimmed the unnecessary replacement grip (due to OHBH) and added some Tourna OG. Strung with Ultra Cable at 45# with 10% pre-stretch (my usual string setup). Interesting that although UC is quite heavy for a 17g string, SW came in a bit low at 319 vs. 326 spec. I did not make any other weight modifications.

On the court: I hit for one hour with a 4.5-level hitting partner. I only did groundstrokes today, and it was immediately apparent that they were noticeably less jarring than with my Pure Strike 98 18M. I am quite certain that forehands, for example, would not have even been possible today with the PS98, as my wrist is still somewhat irritated from when I injured it during an intense session a couple of weeks ago. By the end of the one-hour session, once I was well warmed up, I could hit forehands with good pace and topspin without much, if any, discomfort. OHBH felt fine, as expected since my TFCC injury does not seem to be too affected by that stroke. By the end of the session, topspin off both wings seemed as good and quite possibly better than with the PS98. My backhand slice felt quite dialed in (more consistent and less floaty) by the end of the hour as well. I was purposely trying to avoid hitting hard today, but power with the Clash 98 nonetheless did not feel too far off from that of the PS98. I did hit a bit harder than I should have on a couple of forehands, and it was clear that there was impressive power on tap if needed. Directional and length control both seemed fine to me as well. After the first 15-20 minutes of getting acclimated to the racquet, any errors did not strike me as out of the ordinary, compared to the types and frequency of errors that I might typically make (I am a 4.0-4.25) with my usual PS98. No unusual or concerning wrist pain so far after the hit. Nonetheless, I have been icing it and doing some low-level laser on it. The true test will be seeing how it feels tomorrow, though, as the pain seems to come on the day after...

All in all: a very encouraging beginning. I can already tell that I could be very happy with the performance of this racquet. It is the most comfortable racquet I have ever hit with, despite using Ultra Cable, which I believe is generally considered to be quite a stiff poly. I was able to hit with good pace and spin, and I did not notice anything unusual in terms of control. If there were control issues, I am not sure how I would know, as the errors that I made were very much in keeping with the way I generally play since getting back into tennis a couple of years ago.
 

ohplease

Professional
What strings are you using and how long do you have them in there? Most people keep their strings in way, way too long, and if you're playing six hours a week, you owe it to yourself to restring as often as you can.

I have a sensitive elbow, and I play about the same amount as you do to maybe a little more. I use a pair of Ki10 305s and restring every 12-15 hours per frame - any longer and I start to feel fatigue/soreness that wasn't there before.
 

Fintft

G.O.A.T.
Or Prokennexes KI5 295g (with added weight), or Q+ 5 Pro (Black and Yellow) (2020), that I am selling. :)
The first one has exceptional feel and decent power, while the second still good feel but more whip...
 

ariwibowo

Rookie
I am 3.5 and 42 years old and play for about 3 times a week for about 2 hours on average. I have not tried very many racquets and have the mostly hit with the Head Radical OS and Wilson Clash Pro 100.

Recently got an opportunity to play a set with the Pure Drive Tour (2021) and I was astonished with how much more power I was able to get.

So I want to move on to PD tour but I am also better concern with high stiffness of the racket. So I thought I should ask here for What other rackets I should demo if I want the power of PD tour while minimizing any risks of tennis elbow.

Can you guys please recommend three alternatives of PD tour that offer plenty of power but are somewhat more arm friendly than a PD tour?
I am of the same level and age as you and currently using Prince Textreme Tour 100 310, the power and spin is adequate. I have also Youtek Radical OS but it is too flexible for control.
 

AmericanTwist

Professional
pure drive tour is 70ra...pretty stiff. Find something in the low-mid 60s if you want some more power. Else stick with your clash and work on your game. Carry several different frames as your game evolves.
Btw power racquets with low risk of elbow injuries do not exist.
 

bouncer

New User
What string do you currently play?
I'm currently using natural gut on my Clash 100 pro. Which is very soft and I'm not currently having any problem but I want to go to PD tour after playing a set with it but it's just a stiffness of PD that worries me.
 

gold325

Hall of Fame
I'm currently using natural gut on my Clash 100 pro. Which is very soft and I'm not currently having any problem but I want to go to PD tour after playing a set with it but it's just a stiffness of PD that worries me.

Super Interesting.
What string did the PD Tour you demoed have in it?
Are going to stay with Natural Gut in the PD Tour?
 

bouncer

New User
Super Interesting.
What string did the PD Tour you demoed have in it?
Are going to stay with Natural Gut in the PD Tour?
I don't know what string was in it as it was someone else at the court who was demoing it and he let me play with it for a set.

Yeah wouldn't mind staying with natural gut in PD tour if the cost minimizes the risks of TE.
 

McLovin

Legend
So I want to move on to PD tour but I am also better concern with high stiffness of the racket. So I thought I should ask here for What other rackets I should demo if I want the power of PD tour while minimizing any risks of tennis elbow.
To be clear, high stiffness is only one of many components that can cause arm issues. Technique, weight, swingweight, strings, and tension are all factors.

I've used ultra-stiff frames practically all my playing life, and ironically the only time I suffered severe TE was when I tried 4G Rough in a Fischer Pro No 1...one of the more arm-friendly frames. Currently I'm using the Solinco Blackout XTD w/ full poly (Signum Pro X-perience) at 52lbs. 3 months in, absolutely no arm issues.

So, if you like the PD Tour, maybe stay with it and look at different strings/tensions, or take a lesson to ensure your technique isn't going to lead to issues further down the line.
 

smboogie

Semi-Pro
I am 3.5 and 42 years old and play for about 3 times a week for about 2 hours on average. I have not tried very many racquets and have the mostly hit with the Head Radical OS and Wilson Clash Pro 100.

Recently got an opportunity to play a set with the Pure Drive Tour (2021) and I was astonished with how much more power I was able to get.

So I want to move on to PD tour but I am also better concern with high stiffness of the racket. So I thought I should ask here for What other rackets I should demo if I want the power of PD tour while minimizing any risks of tennis elbow.

Can you guys please recommend three alternatives of PD tour that offer plenty of power but are somewhat more arm friendly than a PD tour?
Demo a few rackets, don't demo them ALL or you will never be happy. Find the racket that feels best and you can soften it with strings as well to find the best balance. When you are looking at power rackets they will typically be on the stiffer side, which can be harder on your arm.
I'm have been using the PureStrike with hybrid strings and am very happy, however, it's almost time for a racket change and am looking at the Blade & Yonex V-Core first.
 

BillKid

Hall of Fame
I don't know what string was in it as it was someone else at the court who was demoing it and he let me play with it for a set.

Yeah wouldn't mind staying with natural gut in PD tour if the cost minimizes the risks of TE.
Risk factors for TE:
Bad technique >>> String (poly at high tension on a light frame in the hands of a beginner being the worst combo) > racquet

It’s all about demoing and down to personal preference but the PD Tour may be less suitable at 3.5 level than a 300g PD, which is very powerful too.
If you want a more arm friendly racquet, look at other 300g /100sqin thick beams that are a tad softer (EZone 100, Prince Textreme Warrior or Beast 100 or Ripstick).
But honestly, if you use natural gut strung at « not too high » tension (let’s say around 55lbs) your arm should be fine with any of these frames including Babolat. Or you have a technical problem and will get TE anyway.
As far as power is concerned, it will be enormous with any of these rackets strung in natural gut. Such a set up should be forbidden within 10 km of an airport, you risk bringing down a plane on a strong shot.
 

Moveforwardalways

Hall of Fame
While racquet stiffness might contribute to elbow pain, most often (almost always?) elbow or arm pain is related to stiff inappropriate strings or poor technique. For instance, if you are stringing up a Pure Drive Tour with synthetic gut, it should not cause any arm or elbow injury issues. If you string it up with Luxilon Original at 58 lbs, then yeah you are at risk of elbow injury.
 

KYHacker

Professional
TE is almost always from not hitting the sweetspot consistently or hitting late. Babolat racquets have a very high twistweight which makes them harder to swing. That, combined with the stiffness of the frame, and less than optimal mechanics equals nearly every player that I see at the local clubs having arm issues with Babolats. It’s really quite stunning to see. It’s also the reason that I now see almost all of those players playing with Clash frames now and WAY less Babolat. At 3.5 and 4.0 level it seems like almost half are playing with one of Clash frames. Those that aren’t seem to be using Blades or Gravity or Radical. I just see less and less Babolat.
 

jkpilot

New User
I am 3.5 and 42 years old and play for about 3 times a week for about 2 hours on average. I have not tried very many racquets and have the mostly hit with the Head Radical OS and Wilson Clash Pro 100.

Recently got an opportunity to play a set with the Pure Drive Tour (2021) and I was astonished with how much more power I was able to get.

So I want to move on to PD tour but I am also better concern with high stiffness of the racket. So I thought I should ask here for What other rackets I should demo if I want the power of PD tour while minimizing any risks of tennis elbow.

Can you guys please recommend three alternatives of PD tour that offer plenty of power but are somewhat more arm friendly than a PD tour?
Want a high power racket and zero pain? Wilson six.one 95, i've tried them all and never got pain. I have had wrist pain from ezones though , go figure! The six.one is an absolute beast of a racket.
 

jkpilot

New User
Want a high power racket and zero pain? Wilson six.one 95, i've tried them all and never got pain. I have had wrist pain from ezones though , go figure! The six.one is an absolute beast of a racket.
BTW I use multifiliments, not poly which I find to be terrible. Sensation 17 is my go to.
 

KYHacker

Professional
I would stick with one of the Clash frames or go with ProKennex. PK in particular has some frames that are soft with some pop. Black Ace 105 and Q+20. q+20 is kind of a sleeper frame. It's supposed to be more of a players oversize than most in that spec range. I know of at least one high-level 4.5 that uses and she loves it.

I have been playing with the Clash Pro v1 and it has a lot of pop but also a lot of control-- once you get used to it and dial in the string setup. It took me almost a month before I really got used to the control and knew exactly where my ball was going. Not that different from a Pure Drive or Aero in that regard, though. I could never play with those, though because I always get arm pain creeping in with the Babolats.

I would really recommend going with a PK frame if you want comfort, pop, and arm protection, though.
 
I’ve had flare-ups of tennis elbow at least 2-3 times in the past 7 years so my arm is fairly sensitive.

The Yonex Ezone series has been good for my arm with my current racquet - the Ezone 100 Plus (2020) - giving me no pain whatsoever despite its high stiffness rating. Have also hit recently with the Solinco Blackout 100 Xtd which was also good fro my elbow.

The older generations of Babolat Pure Drives and Pure Aeros have been arm killers for me although the most recent Banana Aero (2019) I tried was ok for my arm and hopefully the newest version from 2022 will continue that trend.

I’ve also tried the Pro Kennex Kinetic racquets - also seem super arm friendly although never got dialed in with their offerings. However, if you Gel with one of those frames, I suspect your arm will be fine.
 
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