Prince Recoil.. initial thoughts

[sandflea]

Picked up some Prince Recoil to take a test drive in my Vantage 95. Normal strings: Tecnifibre bi-phase 18 or Klip legend 18 mains, Big Ace micro 18 crosses.

Me: 5.5, ex-div I player... taught for a year. Semi-western forehand, eastern backhand. Allcourt player, bordering on serve and volleyer.

After reading posts about not following Prince's recommendation on tension, I decided to string my stick up at the higher end of my normal tension range which was 59 lbs.

Day 1: Extremely muted feel on ground strokes, even at the high end of my normal tension range(if I try this again, I'll go up 2 lbs in tension) Great ball pocketing, almost unsettling. Spin production was as good as any poly's that I've tried. Most control out of a string that I've ever had. If you have troubles with tennis elbow, this could be the string for you, feels like it has a built in vibration dampener. Power was average and there was little or no string movement. Feel and touch was unbelievable at the net, I felt that I could do anything with the ball.

Day 2: The more I played with it, the more I liked it... Didn't try any serves, but the strings started to move on me a bit. I seriously doubt that these will hold their place like most of the poly's out there. At the end of my session... they broke so I'm not sure about their durability, I'll have to check the grommets.

I know that their have been posts about not hybriding this string.... but I think that it would be excellent as one and I'm going to give it a shot at some point.

 

[TenniseaWilliams]

I tried this a few months ago when they sent out samples. I assume it is a copoly or similiar, if it is a multi it must be bonded pretty well. Stuff is very soft unstrung, not a plastic feel at all.

Since I only had 1 pack, I threw a half set at the wife and put the other half in my favorite racquet. I followed the 10% down, (used my normal poly setting at 52) and shouldn't have, was too mushy. The strings moved but reset OK, even with the hybrid synthetic gut I used. Longevity for me was the same as a poly. The wife wants NG (natural gut) in the mains, but I put the Recoil in and NG the crosses for her, she liked it enough I had to put in a softer cross with the NG mains on her next string job, reversing her previous slow trend away from the buttery feel.

The sample packs I got reeked when opened, lots of silicone coating on these things, had to clean clamps after (had cleaned them before for her NG)

If the price comes down dramatically, I might try it again, would make a nice cross for a poly hybrid, but Tonic+ is the same price!

 

[the-robz]

do not get recoil. GET PRO HURRICANE TOUR!

 

[Babb]

Oh my God. Would you stop spamming? The PHT thing is getting old. You post that in like... EVERY SINGLE THREAD YOU COME INTO CONTACT WITH. Please... stop...

 

[the-robz]

Oh my God. Would you stop spamming? The PHT thing is getting old. You post that in like... EVERY SINGLE THREAD YOU COME INTO CONTACT WITH. Please... stop...

hey hey, lets just stick to the original topic here. im just saying recoil is **** - tried it on speedport black, and that PRO HURRICANE TOUR is the best sh1t around.

 

[Babb]

^^^^
Ever stop and think that your opinion is not the bottom line...? And could you give actual detailed feedback on a string, rather than saying that it is either "@%#$" or "the best *%#^"? And cursing is against TT message board policies. Watch your language...

 

[iplaybetter]

so is it worth the high cost

 

[the-robz]

nope definitelynot. there are much better polys around for cheaper price (e.g. pro hurricane tour (way better control spin feel (happy babb??)) so not worth the high cost.

 

[User Name]

how does prince get away with charging $25 for a non gut string with mixed reviews. I personally like prince, but the price is simply ridiculous for a synthetic. I don't even plan to try it... too expensive.

 

[Babb]

nope definitelynot. there are much better polys around for cheaper price (e.g. pro hurricane tour (way better control spin feel (happy babb??)) so not worth the high cost.

Yes, because that is actually somewhat helpful. Thank you. It's just that saying Pro Hurricane Tour all the time doesn't really help anyone if you don't at least explain what it has that other strings don't, you know?

 

[User Name]

way off topic, but i personally didnt think that pro hurricane tour was that great. I though that topspin cyberflash had more pop and played just as well, if not better for half the price...

 

[the-robz]

way off topic, but i personally didnt think that pro hurricane tour was that great. I though that topspin cyberflash had more pop and played just as well, if not better for half the price...

yeah wayy off topic. we are talking about prince recoil here, not comparing PHT with cyberflash...:shock::shock::shock::shock:

 

[Bud]

how does prince get away with charging $25 for a non gut string with mixed reviews. I personally like prince, but the price is simply ridiculous for a synthetic. I don't even plan to try it... too expensive.

Agreed. Prince should have started the price very low and then boosted it if it proved popular. At that price, I'm not even willing to try it.

 

[the-robz]

Agreed. Prince should have started the price very low and then boosted it if it proved popular. At that price, I'm not even willing to try it.

agreed. and recoil sounds like garbage technology. and for once i will not mention *** ********* ****.

 

[sandflea]

I don't think it's worth the price... hoping it will come down by $10 then it will be a buy for me. I let my wife hit some shots with it,(usually uses tonic/bb rough) and she loved the way it felt and the spin she was able to produce.

 

[1337Kira]

Well its better than PHT... (or so I've been told).
Definitely over-priced though.

 

[ClubHoUno]

hey hey, lets just stick to the original topic here. im just saying recoil is **** - tried it on speedport black, and that PRO HURRICANE TOUR is the best sh1t around.

I hate Pro Hurricane Tour - one of the worst poly's I've tried ever.

Good poly's: Weisscanon silverstring, Luxilon BB ALU power Spin, Kirscbaum Pro Line II and Pacific Poly Force XTreme.

Babolat Pro Hurricane Tour sucks in my view!

Now see, that was MY opinion

 

[J011yroger]

Comparing this string to polys is silly, they should appeal to totally different players.

J

 

[PBODY99]

My hot ten minutes with this string told me:
1 It isn't a poly !
2. In a Speedport Gold it seemed to be nothing special.

As soon as you handle an unstrung set you should be able to tell it is a multi, even if you don't believe the marketing information on the pack.
The coating on the string is the reason for the high price and it's characteristics.
At the current price point, it is a pass in my inventory.

 

[nickb]

agreed. and recoil sounds like garbage technology. and for once i will not mention *** ********* ****.

Please go away...im sick of you dropping PHT in every sentance.

You do realise you look like a complete newb right?

 

[J011yroger]

You do realise you look like a complete newb right?

Doesn't matter, it is one of the oldest things in tennis. People will listen to those whom they respect, and other will just continue to run their mouths about whatever, and everyone else will just ignore them while they give out free advice to everyone in earshot.

J

 

[Josherer]

hey hey, lets just stick to the original topic here. im just saying recoil is **** - tried it on speedport black, and that PRO HURRICANE TOUR is the best sh1t around.

I take it you haven't tried gut?

 

[Greg Raven]

It seems comfortable and low-powered to me, two qualities I admire in a string. Perhaps because of the power level, control was excellent for me.

 

[Old_Crow]

It seems comfortable and low-powered to me, two qualities I admire in a string. Perhaps because of the power level, control was excellent for me.

Same here. I liked everything but the price. In my personal racquets (open pattern), I've been combining gut mains and SPPP Pure crosses. I restrung one with gut mains and Recoil crosses to compare. In a hybrid, the Recoil felt significantly softer, still low powered, no string movement.

I missed the crisp sound of the SPPP as the Recoil is very muffled in comparison when combined with gut. However, my creaky elbow likes the softer feel.

I'll probably keep using it in my own sticks but might hesitate to recommned it to customers unless I know they shouldn't use poly and are OC about string movement like me.

 

[sandflea]

I have tonic/SPP in a few of my rackets and like it alot, but I was going to try Recoil in the crosses just like you did. What other differences did this set up have compared with your SPPP one besides power and feel? Was the spin about the same?

Same here. I liked everything but the price. In my personal racquets (open pattern), I've been combining gut mains and SPPP Pure crosses. I restrung one with gut mains and Recoil crosses to compare. In a hybrid, the Recoil felt significantly softer, still low powered, no string movement.

I missed the crisp sound of the SPPP as the Recoil is very muffled in comparison when combined with gut. However, my creaky elbow likes the softer feel.

I'll probably keep using it in my own sticks but might hesitate to recommned it to customers unless I know they shouldn't use poly and are OC about string movement like me.

 

[Old_Crow]

With the gut in the mains, I didn't have much difference in power or spin. I was mainly sound and ball-feel. I string pretty low which might also be a factor.

I'm guessing that if the Recoil & SPPP had been in the mains, there would be a much more noticeable difference.

 

[eric892]

Will the strings snap back to position?

 

[paperduetoday]

Reasons To Get It - Ball Pocketing, Strings Dont Move
Reasons To Not Get It - Too Expensive, Not Durable, Not Playable(dead Feel)

Substitute For String - Prince Poly